In a message dated 9/20/2006 7:05:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do think the SSDI index would be a good place to start although the residence listed has not mean that is where she died, just where the benefit check went to. Sue If someone can find the (unknown person) we are seeking in the SSDI - and they died in MA., I can look them up in the MA DEATH INDEX if they died by 1970. This will tell what county the person died in at least. JSR Jacqueline Sleeper Russell website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surna me=A

Who are you looking for? Location? Approx date? I may be able to help. Cookie Leary ----- Original Message ----- From: Dora Smith<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston I lookd at the web site of Mass Docs, they said that if you don't know the date of the record you need you have to use some other service to find out before you order the document from them. Did I misunderstand? I sure didn't see anything else about them doing research. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Calhoun" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston > Hi Dora - I was planning on making a trip to the Vital Records Office > next week and if your names aren't extremely common, I will look for the > records. What is it exactly that you need? > > By the way, the main branch of the Boston Public Library does indeed > have a genealogy section - called the Microtext Dept. - has old > newspapers on microfilm, some census records and lots of street > directories. No vital records though. > > Also, there are several genealogy groups in the area, NEHGS and Mass. > Federation of Genealogists to name two. Also a private company called > Mass. Docs. does do research for a fee, I've never used them but I've > heard its a little pricey. > > Anyway, send me your names and approximate dates and I'll see what's > available. > Joanne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 9/20/2006 6:16:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: If I'm reading Dora's question properly, NEHGS will not have the information she seeks. Nor will the Boston Public Library. Someone will have to go to MA Vital Records to pull a post-1946 record. Searching the State index is the only feasible course, given that she's not sure in which of 5 Western MA counties the record may be. Dora did not mention whether she had tried the SSDI (Soc. Sec. Death Index) to find perhaps a clue as to death date and residence. That might bear fruit, and then someone in that county might be able to look into it. Steve ==================== I wonder what the privacy rules are in Massachusetts about releasing a record this recent are to a total stranger and someone not related. Have not tried to get a record this recent myself. JSR Jacqueline Sleeper Russell website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surna me=A

In a message dated 9/20/2006 6:00:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I lookd at the web site of Mass Docs, they said that if you don't know the date of the record you need you have to use some other service to find out before you order the document from them. Did I misunderstand? I sure didn't see anything else about them doing research. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX I think if you tell the list what you know about this person we may be able to help you. Any luck with census research? At what point are you in this research? Jacqueline Sleeper Russell website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surna me=A

If I'm reading Dora's question properly, NEHGS will not have the information she seeks. Nor will the Boston Public Library. Someone will have to go to MA Vital Records to pull a post-1946 record. Searching the State index is the only feasible course, given that she's not sure in which of 5 Western MA counties the record may be. Dora did not mention whether she had tried the SSDI (Soc. Sec. Death Index) to find perhaps a clue as to death date and residence. That might bear fruit, and then someone in that county might be able to look into it. Steve On Sep 20, 2006, at 6:49 PM, [email protected] wrote: > [email protected]

Hi Dora - I was planning on making a trip to the Vital Records Office next week and if your names aren't extremely common, I will look for the records. What is it exactly that you need? By the way, the main branch of the Boston Public Library does indeed have a genealogy section - called the Microtext Dept. - has old newspapers on microfilm, some census records and lots of street directories. No vital records though. Also, there are several genealogy groups in the area, NEHGS and Mass. Federation of Genealogists to name two. Also a private company called Mass. Docs. does do research for a fee, I've never used them but I've heard its a little pricey. Anyway, send me your names and approximate dates and I'll see what's available. Joanne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gillman (Gilman) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZFB.2ACI/4073 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Moses Gillman (Gilman), born in MA prior to 1830. Thanks, A. Gillman [email protected]

I lookd at the web site of Mass Docs, they said that if you don't know the date of the record you need you have to use some other service to find out before you order the document from them. Did I misunderstand? I sure didn't see anything else about them doing research. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Calhoun" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston > Hi Dora - I was planning on making a trip to the Vital Records Office > next week and if your names aren't extremely common, I will look for the > records. What is it exactly that you need? > > By the way, the main branch of the Boston Public Library does indeed > have a genealogy section - called the Microtext Dept. - has old > newspapers on microfilm, some census records and lots of street > directories. No vital records though. > > Also, there are several genealogy groups in the area, NEHGS and Mass. > Federation of Genealogists to name two. Also a private company called > Mass. Docs. does do research for a fee, I've never used them but I've > heard its a little pricey. > > Anyway, send me your names and approximate dates and I'll see what's > available. > Joanne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Good suggestion, thanks. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Black" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston >I would suggest getting in contact with the Boston collage and find a > collage student who would like a little spending money. > > Almost all the researchers that I have seen for the Boston area want 25.00 > an hour plus gas money and also a fee on top of that. > > Amy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:59 PM > Subject: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston > > >>I need to find a researcher to do a fairly extensive lookup in the state >> vital records office for me. >> >> I tried one of the national genealogical society web sites, and noone I >> contacted has gotten back to me. They all seemed a bit high fallutin for >> the sort of research I want, with published books and all that. I don't >> want my famous family researched, I need my mother in law's mother's >> death >> or marriage record in five counties near Northampton sometime since 1946, >> sometime in the next couple of weeks. I need a researcher who bothers >> with >> that kind of thing. >> >> I called the Boston public library, and spoke to someone in the social >> sciences section as apparently the Boston public library doesn't have >> enough >> genealogical material to merit a separate genealogy section. Librarian >> said we don't maintain any list of researchers, I have to look on one of >> two >> web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, Boston >> doesn't even have a local genealogical society! I mean, come on, even >> Austin, Texas, has one of them. >> >> Can someone please recommend someone who can do my lookup. Thanks! >> >> Yours, >> Dora Smith >> Austin, TX >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

I actually e-mailed them, even though it didn't occur to me to think of their focus as being local. I thought they might be a source of a referral. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston > In a message dated 9/20/2006 7:00:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: >> I have to look on one of two < > > web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, > > Boston < >> doesn't even have a local genealogical society! < > > Dora, > > I just want to say, we have the New England Historic Genealogical Society > (NEGHS) in Boston, Ma Founded in 1845. > > http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ > > Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Wait, I've been doing research on the NEHGS site, and I only found the bmd records through 1910. I didn't see any mention of them having mroe bmd records than they have online. I know the Mormons have the indexes filmed through the 1940's or something. Not the 1970's. But I did just send them an e-mail, describing what I want done and asking for referrals. I'm sure they'll let me know if they have the means to research it for me. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Sweet-Hart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston > Dear Dora: > > Boston has the oldest genealogical society in the country, The New England > Historic Genealogical Society, est. 1847. Their website is > www.newenglandancestors.org. They have the vital records indexes through > the 1950s for births, and through the 1970s for marriages and deaths. > Someone could look up the citation in the index and your best (and > cheapest) > bet would be to write to the individual town/city hall for the certificate > if it is found in the index. Otherwise, you will be incurring costs for > someone to go to the Mass. Vital Records office, pay $9 per hour to look > through the records, etc., and get a certified copy (the only type they > issue) for $18 on-site. Via mail the certificates from the Vital Records > office are $29.00. > > Ancestry.com has Massachusetts deaths to 1970. Have you tried the SSDI to > ascertain her death? I'm assuming that if you are looking in 5 counties > near Northhampton, you would be looking in Berkshire, Franklin, Hampshire, > Hampden, and Worcester. Have you tried genealogical societies or USGenWeb > sites for those counties in Massachusetts (www.usgenweb.org)? > > Best of luck in your search. I am sorry that you have had no luck in your > contacts. > > Christine Sweet-Hart, CG > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Dora Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston > > I need to find a researcher to do a fairly extensive lookup in the state > vital records office for me. > > I tried one of the national genealogical society web sites, and noone I > contacted has gotten back to me. They all seemed a bit high fallutin for > the sort of research I want, with published books and all that. I don't > want my famous family researched, I need my mother in law's mother's death > or marriage record in five counties near Northampton sometime since 1946, > sometime in the next couple of weeks. I need a researcher who bothers > with > > that kind of thing. > > I called the Boston public library, and spoke to someone in the social > sciences section as apparently the Boston public library doesn't have > enough > > genealogical material to merit a separate genealogy section. Librarian > said we don't maintain any list of researchers, I have to look on one of > two > web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, Boston > doesn't even have a local genealogical society! I mean, come on, even > Austin, Texas, has one of them. > > Can someone please recommend someone who can do my lookup. Thanks! > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

In a message dated 9/20/2006 7:00:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I have to look on one of two < > web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, Boston < > doesn't even have a local genealogical society! < Dora, I just want to say, we have the New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEGHS) in Boston, Ma Founded in 1845. http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ Joan

Dear Dora: Boston has the oldest genealogical society in the country, The New England Historic Genealogical Society, est. 1847. Their website is www.newenglandancestors.org. They have the vital records indexes through the 1950s for births, and through the 1970s for marriages and deaths. Someone could look up the citation in the index and your best (and cheapest) bet would be to write to the individual town/city hall for the certificate if it is found in the index. Otherwise, you will be incurring costs for someone to go to the Mass. Vital Records office, pay $9 per hour to look through the records, etc., and get a certified copy (the only type they issue) for $18 on-site. Via mail the certificates from the Vital Records office are $29.00. Ancestry.com has Massachusetts deaths to 1970. Have you tried the SSDI to ascertain her death? I'm assuming that if you are looking in 5 counties near Northhampton, you would be looking in Berkshire, Franklin, Hampshire, Hampden, and Worcester. Have you tried genealogical societies or USGenWeb sites for those counties in Massachusetts (www.usgenweb.org)? Best of luck in your search. I am sorry that you have had no luck in your contacts. Christine Sweet-Hart, CG -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dora Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston I need to find a researcher to do a fairly extensive lookup in the state vital records office for me. I tried one of the national genealogical society web sites, and noone I contacted has gotten back to me. They all seemed a bit high fallutin for the sort of research I want, with published books and all that. I don't want my famous family researched, I need my mother in law's mother's death or marriage record in five counties near Northampton sometime since 1946, sometime in the next couple of weeks. I need a researcher who bothers with that kind of thing. I called the Boston public library, and spoke to someone in the social sciences section as apparently the Boston public library doesn't have enough genealogical material to merit a separate genealogy section. Librarian said we don't maintain any list of researchers, I have to look on one of two web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, Boston doesn't even have a local genealogical society! I mean, come on, even Austin, Texas, has one of them. Can someone please recommend someone who can do my lookup. Thanks! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dora, I live in Danbury, CT, but I would go to the MA Vital Record Registry in Dorchester for you. I would have to charge mileage and expenses (usually one tank of gas plus tolls and cost of any records plus the $9/hr research charge VR charges) which I would estimate would be about $100. If that is something that you are interested in, let me know. MA Vital Records is quite nice - BMD for the entire state, all in orderly books that give the vol/pg of where the original records is. You just put that on a slip and turn it in when they call for them and they bring it out. You can then request a copy that is ready for you when you leave. Of course, you can order it online too. Here is their web site. http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2terminal&L=5&L0=Home&L1=Government&L2=Depart ments+and+Divisions&L3=Department+of+Public+Health&L4=Programs+and+Services+K+ -+S&sid=Eeohhs2&b=terminalcontent&f=dph_vital_records_g_about&csid=Eeohhs2 Regards, Linda Jackson Danbury, CT

Dora- If you back to the Mass Dos website, and scroll all the way down on the right hand side, they tell you how to email them with special requests - it may be more than you want to pay -I've never used them, but it may be the way to get your info ASAP, although I've noticed that a couple of people have offered to do a lookup for you. Ann

Jacqueline, The NEHGS has obtained BMD records for me after the 1910 cutoff by using their index books and then going to the Vital Records Archives to transcribe the document. The NEHGS does have the indexes up to at least 1970. They or someone that can visit Newbury St can look through the indexes to get the year, town, vol, and page number. I do think the SSDI index would be a good place to start although the residence listed has not mean that is where she died, just where the benefit check went to. Sue On 9/20/06, : > > > ==================== > I wonder what the privacy rules are in Massachusetts about releasing a > record > this recent are to a total stranger and someone not related. Have not > tried > to get a record this recent myself. > > > Jacqueline Sleeper Russell >

I would suggest getting in contact with the Boston collage and find a collage student who would like a little spending money. Almost all the researchers that I have seen for the Boston area want 25.00 an hour plus gas money and also a fee on top of that. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: [MASUFFOL] need to find researcher in Boston >I need to find a researcher to do a fairly extensive lookup in the state > vital records office for me. > > I tried one of the national genealogical society web sites, and noone I > contacted has gotten back to me. They all seemed a bit high fallutin for > the sort of research I want, with published books and all that. I don't > want my famous family researched, I need my mother in law's mother's death > or marriage record in five counties near Northampton sometime since 1946, > sometime in the next couple of weeks. I need a researcher who bothers > with > that kind of thing. > > I called the Boston public library, and spoke to someone in the social > sciences section as apparently the Boston public library doesn't have > enough > genealogical material to merit a separate genealogy section. Librarian > said we don't maintain any list of researchers, I have to look on one of > two > web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, Boston > doesn't even have a local genealogical society! I mean, come on, even > Austin, Texas, has one of them. > > Can someone please recommend someone who can do my lookup. Thanks! > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I need to find a researcher to do a fairly extensive lookup in the state vital records office for me. I tried one of the national genealogical society web sites, and noone I contacted has gotten back to me. They all seemed a bit high fallutin for the sort of research I want, with published books and all that. I don't want my famous family researched, I need my mother in law's mother's death or marriage record in five counties near Northampton sometime since 1946, sometime in the next couple of weeks. I need a researcher who bothers with that kind of thing. I called the Boston public library, and spoke to someone in the social sciences section as apparently the Boston public library doesn't have enough genealogical material to merit a separate genealogy section. Librarian said we don't maintain any list of researchers, I have to look on one of two web sites of national genealogical associations, and what is more, Boston doesn't even have a local genealogical society! I mean, come on, even Austin, Texas, has one of them. Can someone please recommend someone who can do my lookup. Thanks! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Christine and Dora, The NEHGS does great work. I've used them several times. Usually the research takes a month and a half or more due to backlogs, so they probably won't meet the time requirement Dora is looking at. Sue On 9/20/06, Christine Sweet-Hart : > > > > Boston has the oldest genealogical society in the country, The New England > Historic Genealogical Society, est. 1847. Their website is > www.newenglandancestors.org. They have the vital records indexes through > the 1950s for births, and through the 1970s for marriages and deaths. > >

I need to find a researcher to do a lookup in the state vital records office for me. I tried a couple of people listed on one of the national genealogical society web sites, and haven't heard back from them. I called the Boston public library, and the librarian in the social science section - they don't even have a separate genealogy section, which is hard to imagine in a place like Boston, told me they don't have such a list, she told me to look at two national genealogists' web sites, and she also told me that the city of Boston has NO local genealogical society. I mean, come on, even Austin, Texas, has that! Thanks! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006