I am repeating my periodic requests for any possible sightings of the birth/baptism of the above. The first firm sighting I have of him is his marriage (to Anne EYTON) at Wrexham in 1818, but in the 1851 and 1861 Censuses he gave his birthplace as Chester c1796. He never lived in Cheshire after his marriage, living in Denbighshire and Shropshire until his death in 1870 I have searched all Chester City parishes, and several nearby parishes for a baptism of this name, without success. I am now looking at other possibilities, e.g. his being base born and his mother marrying a Massey later, his mother being widowed and remarrying, etc. To judge from the naming sequence of his children (and knowing his wife's parentage), his parents may have been John and Mary: a couple of these names had a daughter Charlotte baptised in Ruabon in 1790, but neither they nor she can be found with any certainty earlier or later. Any slight clue welcomed! Donald Massey