I must confess that I am not following up leads of MASSEYs outside the UK, but would be interested to read the chapter(s) on the descent from dear old Hamon. I have been preaching for years that we can not all be descended from him: see my web page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/5874/masseymore.html Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > > MASSEY GENERALOGY 2000 by William W. Massey. This is an update on Judge > Frank Massey's MASSEY ADDENDUM (But of Chapter XIX O N L Y - "Lines > from John Massey of Shirley Hundred, 1636 Immigrant"). The sub-title of the > book is "Richard Massey of Cheshire, England, 1684, Charles City County, > VA, the First Colinial Familt\y ..." > > I especially appreciated the fact that it points out in definite terms that > Hezekiah, Joseph, and Richard could NOT be from the 1636 immigrant - I've > been "preaching" this position for many years but Mr. Massey arrived at > the same conclusion independently of me. > > He also gives an alternative descent from the 1st Hamon de Mascy that is > very interesting - I'm still deciding whether it has any "holes: - in any > event, it's better documented that the other descents from Hamon floating > around on the Internet. There are also numerous tabulated descents from > royalty for Richard of Charlles City Co., VA, which will be be interesting > to review and critique for many of us - 6 descents from Edward III are > shown.

>> Need address for the books of Judge Massey. Pat in Ala>> I just now talked to the wife of Judge Massey's younger half brother and she gave me the address of Judge Massey's son, Daniel Massey, who has the reprints for sale. Since I haven't contacted Mr. Massey myself, I won't publish his address on the list, but I will will provide it via private Email to anyone interested. This notice is in regard to the books of the late Judge Frank A. Massey - not to the new book by William W. Massey, who happens to be a 3d cousin of the Judge. The new book is very good on the earliest US Masseys of Prince George, Surry, and Charles City Cos., VA, their descendants to 3 or 4 generations, AND their apparent English ancestries. It does correct some errors in Chapter XIX of the old ADDENDUM. But the new book treats only this one VA branch of the family and doesn't trace the descendants of this VA branch as far toward the present time as Judge Massey's books. Also the other 18 branches of US MASSEYs covered by Judge Masseys books are not treated at all in the new book. So the older books are still needed by beginning Massey researchers. There are a few errors in the old books, but they're the best we have for most Massey lines. Judge Massey attemptied to cover all US branches. And, as is the case with all secondary sources, the lines found therein should be verified with primary or alternative secondary sources - IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY AND FIND THEM. Regards, Theron Smith.

Early this morning I wrote: << >> Also it's an ANCESTRY book. There is some descendency information (2 or 3 generations down from the three brothers and more for descendants of Richard Massey of Barton Creek in NW NC), but the big thrust is concerning the English ancestors and the very first American representatives.l<< This statement is true but is an understatement. 25 pages (in small print, meaning there'a a large amount of information presented) are devoted to the first 3 or 4 generations of descendants of Hezekiah, Joseph, and Richard. This is a complete rewrite and re-analysis (with many sources cited) of what Judge Massey had for this time period and will be very valuable to persons in this group, which includes myself. Judge Massey extended many of these lines down to 2 or 3 (and even 4 in some cases) later generations in his ADDENDUM and beginners will still need to use the Judge's book to tie into this branch from the later generation entry level. In general the new book takes these lines down to the late 1700s amd very early 1800s, whereas ADDENDUM traces many descents down to at least 1850. As an example, on my own line, Judge Massey shows Richard(2), Hezekiah (3), Richard(4), Barrachias(5), Nathaniel Dudley(6). The new book has details on Richard(4) but just gives a simple list of the children of Richard(4). Cheers, Theron Smith. Reg

I'm interested to know if any of you have ever been able to tie all of the Drury Masseys in to one trunk family. The reason I'm inquiring is that my ggggrandfather, John Massey and his wife Mary (Henry?) Massey named their oldest son Drury. Drury was the brother of my gggrandfather John Wesley Massey of Giles/Marshall Counties, TN. "Old John" was born around 1787-89? somewhere in NC before settling in the Giles/Marshall Counties area. I believe if I can get a lead onto the Drurys, I might solve the genealogical puzzle since the name Drury was not that common. If anyone has an idea, I'd be interested to know. Sincerely, William R. (Bill) Massey of Franklin Tennessee, formerly of Lewisburg, Marshall Co., Tennessee [email protected]

I wrote: > Those of you who are from the Prince George Co., VA MASSEYs - Hezekiah, > Joseph, and Richard - wll be interested in a new Massey Book just > published: > > MASSEY GENERALOGY 2000 by William W. Massey. This is an update on Judge > Frank Massey's MASSEY ADDENDUM (But of Chapter XIX O N L Y - "Lines > from John Massey of Shirley Hundred, 1636 Immigrant"). The sub-title of the > book is "Richard Massey of Cheshire, England, 1684, Charles City County, > VA, the First Colinial Familt\y ..." > > The book is advertized on p. 18 of the current GENEALOGICAL HELPER. I can > provide an address and cost via private Email to anyone interested. There were so many who expressed an interest in the book, I'll go ahead and put the inforrmation on the list. Since this is already puplic knowledge from the HELPER ad, and since there's little or no competitive marketing scenario involved, I think it's apprppriate to put it on the list.: Price is $45.00 postpaid; hard bound; 232 pages. Order from the author: William W. Massey Jr. 7703 Deerwood Pointe Jacksonville. FL 32256. I got quick delivery on my copy of the book. I hope to get acquainted with Mr. Massey later and exchange additional data with him. He's a straight (no removes) 3d cousin of Judge Massey and is very respectful of the Judge's compilations although he has some significant disagreement. Do bear in mind that the new book only covers the families from brothers Hezekiah, Joseph, and Richard of VA and NC. Others might want to own it anyway. But there's nothing on Thomas of Marable or Peter Massie of New Kent Co, VA or the Potomac Lines or Arthur Massey of SC. If you're not sure it covers your line, I'll be glad to comment on that aspect of it via private Email.. Also it's an ANCESTRY book. There is some descendency information (2 or 3 generations down from the three brothers and more for descendants of Richard Massey of Barton Creek in NW NC), but the big thrust is concerning the English ancestors and the very first American representatives.l On a different subject, I understand Judge Massey's grandson has re-published his books. If I can find an address, I'll publish that also. Regard, Theron Smith. .

Those of you who are from the Prince George Co., VA MASSEYs - Hezekiah, Joseph, and Richard - wll be interested in a new Massey Book just published: MASSEY GENERALOGY 2000 by William W. Massey. This is an update on Judge Frank Massey's MASSEY ADDENDUM (But of Chapter XIX O N L Y - "Lines from John Massey of Shirley Hundred, 1636 Immigrant"). The sub-title of the book is "Richard Massey of Cheshire, England, 1684, Charles City County, VA, the First Colinial Familt\y ..." The book is advertized on p. 18 of the current GENEALOGICAL HELPER. I can provide an address and cost via private Email to anyone interested. I especially appreciated the fact that it points out in definite terms that Hezekiah, Joseph, and Richard could NOT be from the 1636 immigrant - I've been "preaching" this position for many years but Mr. Massey arrived at the same conclusion independently of me. He also gives an alternative descent from the 1st Hamon de Mascy that is very interesting - I'm still deciding whether it has any "holes: - in any event, it's better documented that the other descents from Hamon floating around on the Internet. There are also numerous tabulated descents from royalty for Richard of Charlles City Co., VA, which will be be interesting to review and critique for many of us - 6 descents from Edward III are shown. Also, of interest to those from Richard Massey of Burton Creek in NW Wake Co., NC, whom some have tried unsuccesfully to graft onto William and Judith Massey of Wake/Frankin Co., NC, is a fresh and provocative approach to showing that this Richard may, after all [as Judge Massey believed] be from Richard, son of Hezekiah. Judge Massey, as well as several list subscribers, including Fount Armstrong, are from Richard Massey of Burton Creek. Regards, Theron Smith.

I am searching for any info on: Jonathan MASSEY (son of Thomas) B. about 1773 in NC D. unknown in IN?? He married: Francis (Franky) DAVIS on November 2, 1797 in Grainger county TN Francis(Franky) DAVIS (dau of John and Elizabeth (?)DAVIS b.about 1777 in NC d. unknown in IN?? Jonathan and Franky are last found in the Owen county 1850 census taking listed as: Jonathan 77 years old Franky 73 years old both born in NC living in the household with them is: Jane age 26 born KY Lydia age 13 born IN With Lydia's birth that would place them in IN about 1837. The total of children for this couple is seven: Issac born 1807 TN Lucy Ann born about 1809 TN Willis born about 1813 TN Jacob born October 6, 1814 KY Elizabeth born about 1816 KY Jane born about 1824 KY Lydia born about 1837 IN I would like to fill in some of these blanks and some of the "abouts" also find the info on the parents of Jonathan and Francis (DAVIS)MASSEY. Thanks for any help Debbie Jennings [email protected] "Following the footprints through time" Researching in IN,KY,TN,NC,PA,NJ,VT,NY,MA,MD, VA,CAN,GER,ENG

In a message dated 2/17/2001 7:01:27 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I am having trouble locating Fount Armstrong through his email address. We > are related through our Massey ancestors. Can someone supply me with a > good > Try putting a common ancestor in the search engine for Rootsweb's WorldConnect. I know Fount has a file there since he has some of my Massey ancestors listed. Any family connection between us is only because some Masseys married Masseys....different families. I do remember seeing Fount's file, and he should have an up to date address there. Barbara Ferrell http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=barjeanm

Hi. I am having trouble locating Fount Armstrong through his email address. We are related through our Massey ancestors. Can someone supply me with a good address for him? Would appreciate it. Last one I had was [email protected] Lady Mary

Hi, Looking for John F. MASSEY located in Philly directories from ~1867-1890. Married to Martha QUAY. Also looking for his son, Florenz B. MASSEY b. November 20, 1869, probably in Philly. Florenz married Fannie JENKINS of Pottsville. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks! Paul

(1) Can any MASSEY or RAY relative tell me the date and place of the marriage of : JOSEPH MASSEY to CATHERINE RAY Born: 09 Jan 1809 Born: 11 Apr 1830 Place: Lancaster, SC Place: Shelby, AL. (2) Can any MASSEY or ROBINSON relative give me the date and place of the marriage of: BENJAMIN MASSEY to MILDRED CHEWN ROBINSON Born: 14 Aug 1775 Born: unknown date / place Place: Lancaster SC Parents: JOHN ROBINSON Died: 15 July 1846 and JANE DOWNS Place: Wathaws District, SC. (3) Can any ROBINSON or DOWNS relative give me the date and place of the marriage of: JOHN ROBINSON to JANE DOWNS If you have information on this MASSEY family, RAY family, ROBINSON family, or DOWNS family, please contact me. Thanks, Thelmarie "Thel" Alexander Curtis [email protected]

I am searching for any info on: Jonathan MASSEY (son of Thomas) B. about 1773 in NC D. unknown in IN?? He married: Francis (Franky) DAVIS on November 2, 1797 in Grainger county TN Francis(Franky) DAVIS (dau of John and Elizabeth (?)DAVIS b.about 1777 in NC d. unknown in IN?? Jonathan and Franky are last found in the Owen county 1850 census taking listed as: Jonathan 77 years old Franky 73 years old both born in NC living in the household with them is: Jane age 26 born KY Lydia age 13 born IN With Lydia's birth that would place them in IN about 1837. The total of children for this couple is seven: Issac born 1807 TN Lucy Ann born about 1809 TN Willis born about 1813 TN Jacob born October 6, 1814 KY Elizabeth born about 1816 KY Jane born about 1824 KY Lydia born about 1837 IN I would like to fill in some of these blanks and some of the "abouts" also find the info on the parents of Jonathan and Francis (DAVIS)MASSEY. Thanks for any help Debbie Jennings [email protected] "Following the footprints through time" Researching in IN,KY,TN,NC,PA,NJ,VT,NY,MA,MD, VA,CAN,GER,ENG

This is a site only 6 months old, I was in it this morning. You might like to try it. Lor ----- Original Message ----- From: J and M <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:01 PM Subject: [Metisgen] New Site > Just letting everyone know our old site has been updated and a mirror site > built > You will find a large Canadian section as well as worldwide genealogy links > At the very hub of the site is our Genealogy Chat Room which is open 24/ 7 > to anyone anywhere who has an interest in genealogy > We welcome all to join in at anytime > If anyone has any sites they feel should be added please let me know > Myrna > > Please visit our web sites > JUST GENEALOGY !! > Worldwide genealogy links and Genealogy Chat Room > at: > http://www.stas.net/gen/index.html > or > JUST GENEALOGY 2 > http://www.50megs.com/genealogy/index.html > Worldwide genealogy links and Genealogy Chat Room >

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This is it. Perfect, and thank you soooooo much. How are you dong? Lor ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: MASSEY-D Digest V01 #8

Hi, I posted abt a year ago, so will repost. I am looking for JAMES M MASSEY b. Jun 1876 TN (unknown county)..died ? I find him last in Hunt Co, TX on 1900 Census with his wife Mary Evelyn Keeling and 3 of his 5 children ( 1 of them my grandfather). But from there I dont know where he went. I havent found them on 1910 census and I was told that Mary died in 1906 possibly in accident with her mother that her father submitted to LDS church in 1917. Mary Evelyn was born in Roane Co,TN. The census records indicate that James was also born in TN. I have been searching this line for several years, would apprecaite anyone's help! Looking for Birthplace in TN, his parents, and death place. At least 3 of his children came to Oklahoma by 1920. Also, there is 3 James M Masseys in Hunt Co at same time. The other set is Father & son...the older James was married to a Margaret. I have found no connection to them as yet. ANY HELP APPRECIATED!!! Thanks Ann Massey

In a message dated 02/06/2001 9:51:49 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I am new to the Massey list and am hoping that someone has ties to the > Massey's of Lincoln County, TN and the surrounding area, where my search has > taken me - and then abruptly ended. > > I am looking for two Massey women: > > I, too, am looking for a Massey lady, about the same time period in Lincoln Co. TN. Nancy Massey, b. 14 Mar 1816 (NC ?), married Samuel Morris on 9 Jan 1842 in Lincoln Co. TN. She died 27 Jan 1862 and is buried in the Morris Cemetery at Ward Hollow in Bedford Co. Specifically, I'm looking for Nancy's parents. Linda Emry [email protected]

I am new to the Massey list and am hoping that someone has ties to the Massey's of Lincoln County, TN and the surrounding area, where my search has taken me - and then abruptly ended. I am looking for two Massey women: 1. Elizabeth Massey, b. November 27, 1822 in TN (unknown county), married Henry P. Cowen in 1849 in Missouri and died in Hickory County, Missouri in 1901. 2. Mary Massey, b. March 9, 1817, Tennessee (said to be the daughter of Thomas - no proof), married Chesley Pierce about 1840 in Tennessee and died in 1866 in Hickory County, Missouri. This marriage occurred probably in Lincoln County, TN or a neighboring county. There was another marriage that occurred about the same time frame between Hulda Massey(daughter of Joshua Massey and Elizabeth Ellis Massey, m. 1808 Jefferson Co., TN) and John "Jack" Pierce, said to be a brother of Chesley. Also listed in Hickory County, Missouri census records is Benjamin Massey, b. about 1817 in Tennessee. I strongly suspect that these Massey's are siblings or perhaps cousins, but have no proof. I hope that someone is researching the Massey's in the Lincoln County, TN and neighboring areas. I have information on these families after their move to Hickory County, Missouri that I am willing to share. Thank you. Sarah

I am searching for any info on: Jonathan MASSEY (son of Thomas) B. about 1173 in NC D. unknown in IN?? He married: Francis (Franky) DAVIS on November 2, 1797 in Grainger county TN Francis(Franky) DAVIS (dau of John and Elizabeth (?)DAVIS b.about 1777 in NC d. unknown in IN?? Jonathan and Franky are last found in the Owen county 1850 census taking listed as: Jonathan 77 years old Franky 73 years old both born in NC living in the household with them is: Jane age 26 born KY Lydia age 13 born IN With Lydia's birth that would place them in IN about 1837. The total of children for this couple is seven: Issac born 1807 TN Lucy Ann born about 1809 TN Willis born about 1813 TN Jacob born October 6, 1814 KY Elizabeth born about 1816 KY Jane born about 1824 KY Lydia born about 1837 IN I would like to fill in some of these blanks and some of the "abouts" also find the info on the parents of Jonathan and Francis (DAVIS)MASSEY. Thanks for any help Debbie Jennings [email protected] "Following the footprints through time" Researching in IN,KY,TN,NC,PA,NJ,VT,NY,MA,MD, VA,CAN,GER,ENG