Donald Massey wrote: >> I hope people do not assume that all Masseys were/are descended from dear old Hamon<< Bill Massey of TN had written: > > Actually, I understand that Hamon de Mascy came from northwestern France, that is Normandy ... < < I agree with you that the partrilineal line of many contemporary Masseys is not from Hamon nor even from co Chester. Bill is a very distant cousin of mine (something like 8th) and we do have an account done by a reputable medieval scholar showing a resonable account of our lineage going to back to the first Hamon in England. I ackowledge that the chain could be invalidated at any number of points between us and Hamon. BUT, the other consideration is that there is a very high probability that all Caucasians and maybe everyone are at least 15th cousins and very likely ALL of us are descended from the first Hamon - even more certain is that we're all descended from William the Conqueror - doesn't matter whether we can trace it or not. I can trace my wife to William the Conquoror, but not myself, but I'm rather certain he is an (undocumented) ancestor of mine also.. Whether I have any genes belonging to either William or Hamon is a totally different proposition! Best regards to all, Theron Smith (I almost signed as Theron Massey - my grandmother was a Massey.)

I hope people do not assume that all Masseys were/are descended from dear old Hamon. A little thought will show that this is most unlikely: there are several possible sources of the name, and more than one could be correct. Unless he was the first to bear the surname, or was the only son of the first person to bear it, there could be others who crossed the channel/Atlantic at other times. See my web page for more detail: http://www.geocities.com/donaldmasseyuk/masseymore.html Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > If it's in the province of Savoy, it has at one time been French. Ouch! > > Actually, I understand that Hamon de Mascy came from northwestern France, > that is Normandy, which is quite a distance from Savoy.

If it's in the province of Savoy, it has at one time been French. Ouch! Actually, I understand that Hamon de Mascy came from northwestern France, that is Normandy, which is quite a distance from Savoy. ??? Momma Mia! Bill Massey in Franklin, TN, formerly of Lewisburg/Marshall County, TN

In my latest wine club list, are two wines (red and white) from the estate of Paolo Masi, in Tuscany. Is anyone aware of an Italian connection? Has anyone tasted the wine? Donald Massey

Does any one have any infomation on the William Massey that was playing poker with Wild Bill Hickok. I understand he was a steam Boat Captian and My Massey family lived in Springfield ,Mo. My Gr gr Grandfather was James Massey married to Martha Ellen Anderson....Thanks for any Help. By the way Mr.Massey had four of a Kind,four sevens and a King...Wild Bill was holding a full house containing three kings. The dead mans hand ,aces and eights was incorrect. Wild West Magazine,June, 2003. Glynda

Hello Donald My branch of Massey were out in India originally with the Royal Engineersin the 1800's and then as Railway People - we had one marriage entry as Maffey. June (nee Massey) Brown East Yorkshire England Names: Massey Wallington O'Leary and Gambin ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Massey <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [MASSEY-L] William Arthur MASSEY born 1867 > I am still searching for this gent in the1901 census: he should have shown > his birthplace as Ruabon, but may have shown it as Chester as he spent most > of his childhood and teenage there. > > I know he was still alive in England in 1909, when he was witness to his > brother's marriage. > > What are the more outlandish variations of MASSEY you have found? > > Donald Massey > >

>Searching for MASSEY family in the Tamworth Willenhall/Burton on Trent/Staffordshire area. > > I am trying to connect Rev Richard MASSEY Baptist Pastor Tamworth 1826/66 to my great grandfather Alfred.(b c 1824) >. >I have a marriage of Richard to Dorothy Feilding 1814 St Michaels in Lichfield and there is a son Alfred from this marriage BUT because I cannot find Alfred`s birth certificate I am unable to verify. > I have Alfred`s marriage certificate to Mary Moseley which gives Richard as Father. > >I believe there were other siblings Jane,Charles,, Richard and Theophilus and possibly Joseph. > >Any information would be helpful. > >Cindy > >

Searching for MASSEY family in the Tamworth Willenhall/Burton on Trent/Staffordshire area. I am trying to connect Rev Richard MASSEY Baptist Pastor Tamworth 1826/66 to my great grandfather Alfred.(b c 1824) . I have a marriage of Richard to Dorothy Feilding 1814 St Michaels in Lichfield and there is a son Alfred from this marriage BUT because I cannot find Alfred`s birth certificate I am unable to verify. I have Alfred`s marriage certificate to Mary Moseley which gives Richard as Father. I believe there were other siblings Jane,Charles,, Richard and Theophilus and possibly Joseph. Any information would be helpful. Cindy

I am still searching for this gent in the1901 census: he should have shown his birthplace as Ruabon, but may have shown it as Chester as he spent most of his childhood and teenage there. I know he was still alive in England in 1909, when he was witness to his brother's marriage. What are the more outlandish variations of MASSEY you have found? Donald Massey

Donald Massey wrote: >I am still searching for this gent in the1901 census: he should have shown his birthplace as Ruabon, but may have shown it as Chester as he spent most of his childhood and teenage there. I know he was still alive in England in 1909, when he was witness to his brother's marriage. >What are the more outlandish variations of MASSEY you have found?< Besides MASSEY and MASSIE, there are MACEY,MACIE, MACY,MARCY,MARSEE,MASSY, MASEY, MASIE, MASCY, MASSA, MASSAA,MASY, MAXEY, MAXCY ,MAYCY, MAYSAY, MAYSEY, MESSER,MOSSA, and even MACE and MASE. Most of the above variations actually appear is US census records, but may, in a few cases refer to a totally different family. Let us know if you get a match on any of these in English records! Good luck, Theron Smith.

William Massey Story Am researching my g-grandfather William MASSEY, b. 1855 in Belfast, Ireland. His parents were William and Annie Jane MASSEY (Annie Jane's maiden name unknown). William MASSEY seniors occupation is Coal Merchant. Brothers and sisters of both parents unknown as are other siblings. My g-grandfather William MASSEY married Elizabeth Jane McFADDEN on 31st March 1875, in Belfast, Antrim, Ireland. Elizabeth Jane McFADDEN was born in April (?), 1854, in Rathfriland Down, Ireland. Her parents were Robert and Catherine McFADDEN (Catherine's maiden name unknown). Brothers and sisters of both parents unknown as are other siblings. 13 Jan 1999 Descendants of: William Massey 1 William Massey m. Annie Jane 2 William Massey b. 1854 d. 6 October 1928 m. 31 March 1875 Elizabeth Jane McFadden b. Sept 1854 d. 27 July 1921 3 Agnes Jane Massey 3 Eva Isabella Massey m. Dick Sylvester 3 Fred Earnest Massey b. _____ d. 1943/44 m. Stella Markwell 4 Frederic Arthur (AKA Derek) b. circa 1911 d. circa 1987 m. Dulcu d. circa 1980 5 Gaye Massey b. circa 1942 m. John Ryan 4 Paul William Massy b. 23 August 1921 d. July 1994 m. Cecelia Clare Lulham b. 3 December 1921 d. October 1998 5 Christine Clare Massey b. 1944 m. Brian Nightingale 5 Peter Frederick Massey b. 1947 5 Jennifer Mary Massey b. 1952 m. David Greatorex 5 Kathryn Nora Massey b. 1953 m. Peter Milne 5 Steven William Massey b. 1957 m. Charmine 4 Josephine Massey b. circa 1924 m. Reg Francis 5 Janet Francis b. circa 1950 5 Diana Francis b. circa 1952 5 John Francis b. circa 1955 5 Allan Francis b. circa 1958 3 Lillian Ethel Louise Massey m. Robert Marley 4 Gwen 4 Dorothy 4 Cedric 3 Ruby May Massey b. 27 Sep 1887 d. 14 Nov 1971 m. 5 Jun 1919 Allan Baldwin b. 25 Jan 1887 d. 23 Jan 1974 4 Noel Massey Baldwin b. 8 Apr 1920 d. 15 Apr 1984 m. Daphne Newell 5 Anthony Baldwin 5 Steven Baldwin 5 Leonie Baldwin 5 Michael Baldwin 4 Muriel June Baldwin b. 1921 m. 8 April 1941 Thomas Combey b. 6 October 1904 d. 11 Sept 1994 5 Irene b.1941 m. Les Fisher 5 Allan b. 1943 4 Edgar Allan Baldwin b.1922 m. Reeva Christina Clements 5 Eugene Kenneth Baldwin b. 9 January 1946 d. 24 March 1989 m. Ann 5 Ronald William Baldwin b. 1947 m. 19 Feb 1966 Dianne Beth Smith 5 Francis Raymond Baldwin b. 1950 m. Melanie Pannet 5 Carole Linda Baldwin b. 1956 m. John 4 Kenneth Massey Baldwin b. 1923 m. 31 July 1943 Dorothy Isabella Whitehouse Birch b. 1 Jul 1924 d. 19 Oct 1989 5 Ian Robert Baldwin b. 28 Jun 1944 d. 29 Jun 1944 5 Kenneth Gregory Baldwin b.1947 m. 10 Aug 1968 Mary Helen Darby b. 1952 5 Julian Graham Baldwin b. 1949 m. 26th Sept 1970 Margaret Heather Watson 5 Vicki Isabella Baldwin b. 1951 3 Dead One Male Regards Greg Baldwin CFHS 8731 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Australia BENTON - Warwick UK BIRCH - Essex UK>Australia CLARK - Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - New Zealand MASSEY - Ireland>Australia McFADDEN - Ireland McLEAN - Scotland>Australia McLEAVY - Scotland REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. SMITH - Scotland SPENCER - Scotland WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Scotland>New Zealand email to: [email protected] snail mail: 33 Johnson Drive, Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia 3156 Australian Genealogy: http://opax.swin.edu.au/andrew/aust_genealogy.html

Dear Listers, I recently found a connection by marriage between my family and the MASSEY family of Richmond, Surrey. James MASSEY, a shoemaker, born c1820 Richmond, Surrey married Elizabeth DICKINS in 1852. Two of their children appear in the 1881 census: Charles MASSEY, a police constable born c1850, living at Kingston on Thames, Surrey with wife Jane, daughter Ada, and mother Elizabeth MASSEY an annuitant aged 58. Henry MASSEY, a shoemaker born c1841, living at Baintree, Essex with wife Margaret and five children Henry MASSEY appears again in the 1902 London Suburbs directory at 153 Wandsworth Road, Wandsworth, Boot& shoe Maker. I would be delighted to correspond with anyone researching this MASSEY family. Elizabeth (DICKINS) MASSEY was my great, great, grand aunt. Ken Dickins Armidale NSW Australia

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I am looking for information on my great grandfather Benjamin Albert Massey he was born October 09, 1900 in San Angelo, Tom Green County, Texas and died March 08, 1984 in San Angelo, Tom Green County, Texas. He married Ruby May Smith (she was born January 28, 1914 in Fluvanna, Scurry County, Texas and died November 28, 1971) they had 11 children that were born mostly in Tom Green County Texas. I do not know Ben's parents or anything about them. Heather

This posting is mainly to find relatives of the family I have listed below. Since I have not found any records, I think that someone will recognize some names and respond. I am posting to other lists as well. My father THOMAS PATRICK MASSEY was b in 1882 Almonte Ontario Canada. That is what he said. I can find no record of him or his family. This is what he told me about 40 years ago: His father THOMAS WILLIAM MASSEY last known to have lived in Almonte about 1880 - 1900. His mother ELLEN PURTELE (PURTELL - PURTILL)? His brothers FRED - WILLIAM - ALBERT - WALTER - HERBERT His sisters LOUISE - FLORENCE No dates - no second names - no religion - no place. My father died in 1975 and recently I got his death registration and it states: He was b Ontario, Canada His father THOMAS MASSEY b Ireland His mother Helen McDOUGAL b Ontario I think his mother died when he was quite young and he left home at an early age. It seems to me that his father remarried unknown to him as there was no family contact after he left except for a picture of him and his brother Walter taken at a Studio in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada about 1905. Walter was leaving for Australia while working on an ocean vessel where he planned to stay. Herbert was thought to be working on a Great Lake Vessel I have searched the BMD of Ontario with no success. I have history books of Masseys and made notes of the Massey Machinery CO Masseys back to Geofrey. The books I have are of Daniel Massey and Angeline Haynes before 1806. I believe the only way I will ever find anything is to find descendants of the uncles I mentioned above. There must be someone who can relate to them. I am also aware that they could have moved somewhere between Ontario and Qubec in Canada to New York state and Vermont. I have done a lot of searching and spent a fair amount. I hope that some Massey sees this and recognizes someone. Thanks for reading this far. Daniel Patrick Massey Manitoba Canada

Hello list: My name is Leah Beard and I'm trying to locate Jacqueline Massey-Hughes whose email address as of Oct 02 is not functioning. I am actually trying to tie into her Borders/Thornton lines out of Jackson Co., GA circa 1807. Jacqueline, if you see this, please contact me at [email protected] or [email protected] (work). If anyone knows Jacqueline, could you please ask her to contact me. I thank you in advance for your help. Leah

Hallo fellow listers - my name is Kerry Barter and I live in Southport, in Queensland, Australia. I am endeavouring to add another branch to my family tree and am seeking the assistance of fellow listers. The information I have at the moment is very sketchy: John MASSEY (b cir 1839) married Margaret RYAN (b cir 1837 from Ireland) Children are as follows: Thomas Francis MASSEY (b cir 1878) Ellen MASSEY (b cir 1865) Margaret MASSEY (dcd) Anne MASSEY (b cir 1868) William MASSEY (b cir 1870) Margaret MASSEY (B CIR) 1871) I do know that Thomas Francis MASSEY came to Queensland, Australia where he married Ellen Maud GOODMAN (b cir 1879) I have been told that a Thomas MASSEY left London on board the SUFFOLK on the 20th May 1874 and arrived in Rockhampton, Queensland on the 14th November 1874. His age is listed as 19 years. I am afraid that that is all the information I have at this point in time. I have checked the 1881 British Census for the family but have had not luck in finding a John and Margaret MASSEY plus children. Any assistance would be most gratefully appreciated. Sincerely, Kerry Barter

Does anyone know who were the parents of Nancy who was born in 1820. She married Thomas Steele on December 12, 1839 in Monroe County, WV. Thanks in advance, Judy

Hello, Is anyone familiar with Edward Morey who fathered a child with Lucretia Massey? Lucretia was born 1813 Waterville VT and took her mother's maiden name as her surname. The daughter Lucretia Massey m John Tillotson probably in VT. I am interested in finding the ancestors of both Edward Morey and Lucretia Massey the mother.