I have details of the early years of the above, the last sighting being his witnessing the marriage of his brother George Henry in Warwickshire in 1909. I believe he is the M. Massey shown in the 1901 census at Llandudno, RG13/5289, F101, as a lodger in the household of ?Hatship? The age, occupation and birthplace all fit, and there was no M Massey born at Ruabon round about the same time. I have been unable to find a marriage Entry in GRO Index from 1891 (when he was living with his parents in Chester, unmarried), notr a Death entry from 1909, for the next 50 years plus. Have you come across him? Donald Massey

The above was at Castle Howard, North Riding of Yorkshire, unmarried, in the 1901 Census, but I have been unable to find either a Marriage or Death entry for her during the next 50 years in the GRO Indexes. Do you know something I don't? Donald Massey

Betty wrote: > I'm no expert on DNA, but if this was a "Y" chromosome DNA test, wouldn't > male descendants of all three 2nd generation brothers have the same markers? > Betty That's certainly a "going-in" position, but minor mutations do occur all the time and there's no way to predict when. The DNA marker that is different between the two DNA samplers in the case under discussion is Marker #9. To get technical, Sampler #7136, deccendant from Richard(5) of Patrick Co., VA [alleged grandson of my Hezekiah (3)] , has for the 9th marker [DYS439] an allele count of 11 whereas Sampler #13401, traced back definitely to John Massey (5) of Giles Co., TN and tentatively to Hezekiah (2), has an allele count of 12 for the 9th marker. Mr. Bennett Greenspan, well known expert on DNA analysis, says the 9th marker is the FASTEST CHANGING marker that has been studied. So we can't state with certainty that Richard(5) and Hezekiah(2) connect this side of the Atlantic but almost certainly they have a common ancestor. To get even more technical, there's a 50% probability that they connect within 9 generations back from them and a 90% probability within 21 generations back. In view of the fact that it's the 9th marker involved AND since there's some genealogical evidence for a US connection, the probability of a connection at a more recent recent generation level goes up. Regards to all, Theron Smith 5-great grandson of Hezekiah(3), son of Richard(2), brother of Hezekiah (2)

I'm no expert on DNA, but if this was a "Y" chromosome DNA test, wouldn't male descendants of all three 2nd generation brothers have the same markers? Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theron L.Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:18 AM Subject: [MASSEY-L] Patrick Co., VA/Mercer Co., WV > Does anyone have data on the ancestors of the Patrick Co., VA MASSEYs - many of whom later moved to Mercer Co., WV? > > Judge Massey placed Richard(5) Massey of Patrick Co., VA BY HYPOTHESIS as son of Abel(4) Massey and placed Abel(4) BY HYPOTHESIS as son of Hezekiah(3) Massey of Brunswick Co., VA, Granville Co., NC; Wake/Franklin Cos., NC , my gg grandfather. It has been reported that Richard of Patrick may have married Winnie CHAMBLEE of Wake/Franklin Cos., NC. But > there is no good data to verify any of this. Richard died bet 1836/8, Patrick Co, Va. > > A descendant of this Richard (5) has DNA that matches that of a descendant of Hezekiah (2) [uncle of William(3)] for 24 out of 25 markers. > > According to a Jan. 25, 1975 letter from Judge Frank A. Massey, which I've never seen. Richard purchased Land on Turkey Cock Creek, 1791, Franklin Co., VA. He sold this in 1796 and purchased land in Patrick Co., VA 1795 and 1798. Children: > i Warren Massey b. 1780/4. > ii Sally Massey b. 1787, m. 7 Oct 1806, in Patrick Co, Alvin More Lewis > iii John Massey m. 19 Feb 1810, in Patrick Co, Va, Nancy Bartlett > iv Obediah Massey m. 28 Apr 1813, in Patrick Co, Va, Nancy Bryant > v Willy Massey M. 18 Dec 1818, in Patrick Co, Va , James Martin > vi Charles Massey m. 4 Jan 1819, in Patrick Co, Va Priscilla Hollandsworth > vii Jubal Massey m. 6 Jan 1819, Elizabeth Gravitt Philpott > > Any clues will be appreciated. > > Theron Smith. > > >

Does anyone have data on the ancestors of the Patrick Co., VA MASSEYs - many of whom later moved to Mercer Co., WV? Judge Massey placed Richard(5) Massey of Patrick Co., VA BY HYPOTHESIS as son of Abel(4) Massey and placed Abel(4) BY HYPOTHESIS as son of Hezekiah(3) Massey of Brunswick Co., VA, Granville Co., NC; Wake/Franklin Cos., NC , my gg grandfather. It has been reported that Richard of Patrick may have married Winnie CHAMBLEE of Wake/Franklin Cos., NC. But there is no good data to verify any of this. Richard died bet 1836/8, Patrick Co, Va. A descendant of this Richard (5) has DNA that matches that of a descendant of Hezekiah (2) [uncle of William(3)] for 24 out of 25 markers. According to a Jan. 25, 1975 letter from Judge Frank A. Massey, which I've never seen. Richard purchased Land on Turkey Cock Creek, 1791, Franklin Co., VA. He sold this in 1796 and purchased land in Patrick Co., VA 1795 and 1798. Children: i Warren Massey b. 1780/4. ii Sally Massey b. 1787, m. 7 Oct 1806, in Patrick Co, Alvin More Lewis iii John Massey m. 19 Feb 1810, in Patrick Co, Va, Nancy Bartlett iv Obediah Massey m. 28 Apr 1813, in Patrick Co, Va, Nancy Bryant v Willy Massey M. 18 Dec 1818, in Patrick Co, Va , James Martin vi Charles Massey m. 4 Jan 1819, in Patrick Co, Va Priscilla Hollandsworth vii Jubal Massey m. 6 Jan 1819, Elizabeth Gravitt Philpott Any clues will be appreciated. Theron Smith.

I have now completed my book on the Masseys of Wake Co. NC. This book is not a family history per se, but is a compilation of original research: it includes all census, tax list, wills, estates, deeds, marriage, divorce and death info on the Masseys in Wake Co. I compiled this book to assist researchers who do not have available to them the original resources that I coveted when I lived in CA (I now live in Raleigh, NC and have the Archives and Olivia Raney Library available to me). This book is in 3 ring binder looseleaf form deliberately. This is so that researchers can take out the pages they need and take them with them when they are going to do further research. There are no pictures in the book (except on the cover) and no narrative except a few interspersed comments by me throughout the text; it is purely original records. The book will sell for $19 plus mailing costs. It is 180 pages of text and 59 pages of index. If you wish to purchase the book, please send me an E-mail. The book will also be available for purchase at the Bolton Family Reunion at the end of April in Russellville, AL. This will be my only posting on this list to let people know about the book's availability; I have obtained the list administrator's permission to post this E-mail. In May I will be starting to do the same type of research in Franklin and Bute Counties, NC and plan to put out this information when that is completed. And by the way, I do have some different information than Judge Massey had in his wonderful books, all of which I have. Carla Tate _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp

I would like this set of books, if still available. Patricia A. Smith; 744 S. Dearborn Circle; Aurora, CO 80012. I can get Paypal to bill to my American Express, as they have done before. Thanks.

I have a set of three MASSEY books by Judge Frank A. MASSEY for sale. The books include: 1. Massey Genealogy 2. Massey on Censuses 3. Massey Addendum The set of books is in excellent condition with no mars. Each book is hardbound. The cost of the set is $80. Postage is $10. Insurance is $2. I highly recommend insurance since I will not be responsible for non-delivery. Payment is to be made by non credit card PayPal. I will send you an invoice if you want to purchase these books. Sandy Spradling

This is prob. old to a lot of you, but interesting to me since at least one of our SC branch (William Perry (Rev.) MASSEY) was in this area about the same time (1881).--- EB 1880 Census Place: District 1, Jasper, Mississippi Source: FHL Film 1254650 National Archives Film T9-0650 Page 21D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Lem MASSEY Self M M W 35 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: GA Mat MASSEY Wife F M W 31 MS Occ: Housekeeping Fa: NC Mo: GA Dennis MASSEY Son M S W 10 MS Fa: AL Mo: GA Martha MASSEY Dau F S W 8 MS Fa: AL Mo: GA James MASSEY Son M S W 6 MS Fa: AL Mo: GA John MASSEY Son M S W 4 MS Fa: AL Mo: GA Thomas MASSEY Son M S W 2 MS Fa: AL Mo: GA George MASSEY Dau F S W 2 MS Fa: AL Mo: GA 1880 Census Place: District 1, Jasper, Mississippi Source: FHL Film 1254650 National Archives Film T9-0650 Page 21D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace James MASSEY Self M M W 39 GA Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC Ann MASSEY Wife F M W 35 AL Occ: Housekeeping Fa: TN Mo: SC James MASSEY Son M S W 9 MS Fa: GA Mo: AL 1880 Census Place: District 1, Jasper, Mississippi Source: FHL Film 1254650 National Archives Film T9-0650 Page 21D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William MASSEY Father M M W 63 VA Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: DE William MASSEY Cousin M S W 32 GA Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: KY Robert MASSEY Other M S W 7 MS Fa: GA Mo: LA Margret MASSEY Other F S W 5 MS Fa: GA Mo: LA 1880 Census Place: District 1, Jasper, Mississippi Source: FHL Film 1254650 National Archives Film T9-0650 Page 21D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Sam Self M M 45 MS Occ: Farmer Fa: MS Mo: MS Nancy MASSEY Other F M 36 MS Occ: On Farm Fa: MS Mo: MS James MASSEY Other M 23 MS Occ: On Farm Fa: MS Mo: MS Willis MASSEY Other M 19 MS Occ: On Farm Fa: MS Mo: MS Raleigh MASSEY Other M S 10 MS Occ: On Farm Fa: MS Mo: MS Peras PAGE Other F S B 25 AL Occ: Field Hand Fa: VA Mo: VA Bettie PAGE Other F S B 8 MS Fa: AL Mo: AL (Inc. because of being neighbors and from SC) 1880 Census Place: District 1, Jasper, Mississippi Source: FHL Film 1254650 National Archives Film T9-0650 Page 22A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace C.S. BRADY Self M M W 25 MS Occ: Farmer Fa: GA Mo: SC Nancy J. BRADY Wife F M W 32 MS Occ: House Keeper Fa: MS Mo: MS William BRADY Son M S W 10 MS Occ: Works On Farm Fa: MS Mo: MS James BRADY Son M S W 8 MS Occ: At Home Fa: MS Mo: MS George BRADY Son M S W 5 MS Fa: MS Mo: MS Laura BRADY Dau F S W 3 MS Fa: MS Mo: MS Maud BRADY Dau F S W 4M MS Fa: MS Mo: MS

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/anderson/cemeteries/ http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/anderson/cemeteries/sunset.txt Sunset Cemetery Massey, Charles F. 05-21-1905 03-23-1985 Massey, Charles A. 08-29-1880 11-25-1968 Massey, Lindsey T. 08-27-1910 12-14-1956 Massey, Martha L. 05-16-1880

RUNNELS COUNTY, TEXAS MARRIAGE RECORDS 1880-1910 taken by permission from Stalkin' Kin, Vols. 1-6 Massey Grooms: Massey G.H. to Stokes Myrtle 19 July 1909; Bk 3 Pg 293 Massey J.M. to Jones Clara 5 December 1909 3 346 Massey John to Thomas Zacharey Maud 2 February 1908 3 123 Massey Lewis H. to Pou Mollie 24 July 1895 1 162 Massey T.M. to Robertson Gyrtte 11 October 1903 2 97 Massey Brides: Massey Nettie to Dunlap Geo. W. 5 October 1904 2 143 Massey Maude to Holland W.R. 15 March 1901 2 11 http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrunnel/marriages/mar12.htm

I am interested to know if the three MASSEY's listed as Pallbearers at the funeral of Mrs. Merle Hunt Bond, are related to the MASSEY lineage of JOSEPH MASSEY who lived in Attala Co., MS during the 1830's, 1840's, and 1850's? He was born - January 09, 1809 in Buncombe Co., NC and died in 1887 in Lampasas Co., Texas He was married to: (1) CATHERINE RAY - B-1811; D-April 05, 1848, Attala Co. MS She may have been buried in the Doty Springs Cemetery (2) LOUISA MARGARET EMMA SMITH - B - February 28, 1830 D - July 24, 1911 Please contact me if you have information that will connect the three MASSEY PALLBEARERS to Joseph Massey. Thanks, Thelmarie "Thel" Alexander Curtis [email protected] ============================================= Obituary -- Services for Mrs. Merle Hunt Bond, 90 of Ethel were held Friday at 11 a.m. at Tabernacle United Methodist Church with burial in the Tabernacle Cemetery. Mrs. Bond died Feb. 25, 2004 at Montfort Jones Memorial Hospital. She was a member of Tabernacle United Methodist Church. She was preceded in death by her husband, Shelton "Shed" Bond. Pallbearers were MORRIS MASSEY, WILLARD MASSEY, BOB MASSEY.... -- To view complete obituary: http://www.starherald.net/obits/

JASPER NEWTON YOUNG was born October 20, 1834 in Wilkinson Co., GA and died February 02, 1927 in Kiam, Polk Co., TX. He was married three times and had at least 19 children. Wife #1 - Margaret E. Massey Wife #2 - Sarah Ann Frances Peebles Wife #3 - Mary Ann McKee Are any of these YOUNG individuals related to JASPER NEWTON YOUNG -- perhaps his children or his siblings? Thanks for your help. Thelmarie Alexander Curtis, A Jasper Newton Young Descendant [email protected] ============================================= POLK COUNTY TEXAS MARRIAGE RECORDS Book B - March 1849 to March 1857 Young, Wm. J. to Elmira Worthy on September 12, 1850 Page-19 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ POLK COUNTY TEXAS MARRIAGE RECORDS Volume B2 Index - March 1857 to December 1874 Young, A. A. to Sophronah A. Purvis on April 12, 1866 Page-147 ** YOUNG, J. N. to Francis Peebles on July 3, 1873 Page-515 **[My G-G-Grandfather, JASPER NEWTON YOUNG and Wife #2] Young, Mary (or May) to Charles Doughty on December 20, 1857 Page-11 Young, Mary to M. Wilkinson on January 9, 1868 Page-228 Young, Mrs. Sophronia to John A. Firth on Febuary 12, 1874 Page-525 Young, Susan to Willis Dow on February __, 1872 Page-468 Young, W. B. to Miss M. Galloway on November 8, 1868 Page-240 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ POLK COUNTY TEXAS MARRIAGE RECORDS Volume C -- September 1874 to November 1893 Young, Annie to W. J. Adams on February 10, 1887 Page-319 Young, Charles to Allice McQueen on March 30, 1884 Page-231 Young, Delila to J. R. Adams on May 25, 1882 Page-176 ** Young, Emma to W. T. Alexander on January 18, 1877 Page-50 ** [My Grandparents: Emma Ellender Young, daughter of JASPER NEWTON YOUNG and Wife #1 MARGARET MASSEY; and William Thomas "Tom" Alexander, son of Joseph Alexander and Mary Frances Peters] Young, James to Lavina Lowe on December 14, 1876 Page-45 Young, Mariah to Wm. Singletary on April 17, 1879 Page-91 Young, Miss S. C. to W. S. Brock on May 16, 1878 Page-72 Young, Sallie to Dan Gardner on November 24, 1881 Page-163 Young, T. M. to Clara Sutton on February 11, 1884 Page-223

EARLY MARRIAGES, MADISON CO., TENNESSEE Massey, Andrew Boyett, Susan December 4, 1844 Massey, Joseph Borren, Eliza February 4, 1830 Massey, Richard Boyd, Rebecca February 13, 1841 http://www.tngenweb.org/madison/records/markm.htm

The list of deaths from Judge Niles Diary apparently has a typo for C. M Massey who died in 1864. Going to the transcripts of the Diary which are online for the earlier years, I found he wrote "C. K. Massey". Searching the CW records, Captain C. K. (Conrad K. ) Massey was an officer in the 20th Regiment of MS, and died in action in 1864. The 20th Regt MS was formed from 5 or 6 counties, one of which was Noxubee. 1860 census of Noxubee Co, Macon, MS, page 858 has the following: C. K. Massey (Mapey) age 21 born MS Ann Massey (Mapey) age 21 born AL They are in the household of Jos/ Jas C. Buck age 34, born Penn and Ann C. Buck, age 25, born MS Now, this doesn't help much with the parents of Conrad K. Massey, but perhaps someone else will know the family. Barbara Ferrell

Checking the abstract of Judge Niles' Diary, I think this should be C.K Massey. June 19, 1864, Sunday This morning I rode with Lucas out to Ben Rooks' (Harlow's old place) thence to the widow Rooks', thence to Sinclair's Spring-- thence home. L. told me C. K. Massey was killed, "Citizen" announces death of Colin Pearce. Jap Bridges & Dave Brown in trouble at Canton-- praying to be released. P. M. rode out there again--arriving just at sunset--stayed till 9 o'clock. I still don't know who this was, but suspect a search of the CSA soldiers from MS might help. Barbara Massey Ferrell

I too, would like to know who C.M. Massey was. I sat in the library in Kosciusko and scanned Judge Niles diary record. Drury, one of my grandfather's much older brothers was mentioned. I didn't see C. M. Massey then. Drury Massey stayed in Attala Co, MS until his death. An angry Grandfather and son-in-law shot Drury in the back at night. Apparently Drury had been showing the wrong kind of attention to an underage young lady, rewarding her with silver dollars. An account of the incident can be found in the Attala Co, MS, library, in SOME ABSTRACTS FROM THE DIARY OF JUDGE NILES, 1814-1894. This was Drury Benson Massey who died in Nov 1871. I do not believe that C. M. was in the family of Joseph Massey. There were several Massey families in the 1850 and 1860 census records who did not seem to be related to ours. Anyone check the census for 1860 Attala County? Barbara Massey Ferrell

>From the Diary of Judge Jason Niles, Attala Co., Mississippi Covering the Period of 1846 - 1890 http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala/niledeaths.html "C.M. Massey killed by 17 June 1864" My question -- WHO was C. M. MASSEY? Thanks for any information. Thelmarie Curtis [email protected]

I have never found a connection between my great grandfather Joseph Massey (b 1808) and Elam Waddel, a Cumberland Presbyterian minister. I have been told that Elam's wife was Margaret R. Campbell, and they married 5 April 1827 in Lauderdale Co. AL. The marriage record is there but I have not worked the census for the Waddels. The only reason I can figure that Joseph and Catherine's children were in the Waddel household is that Joseph's second wife was expecting her first child and Margaret Waddel was helping her out. Joseph and Louisa Margaret Emma Smith were married in Dec 1849, and John Travis Massey was born in Nov 1850. Louisa was only 20 years old at the time. Joseph was a licensed Deacon in the Methodist Episcopal Church and served different congregations in AL, MS, and LA. I have information from a cousin who said he was told that Joseph was buried on a ranch in Lampasses County. I have not been able to confirm this. Louisa Margaret was buried in San Saba County, TX with a sandstone marker now worn away so it would be difficult to find her grave. I do not know where Catherine Ray Massey is buried but it would make sense if she was in Attala Co. MS. More about this family is online in WorldConnect, database: barjeanm Barbara Massey Ferrell

Catherine Ray was born abt 1811 in Alabama, married Joseph Massey, II on April 11, 1830 in Cedar Creek, AL and died April 05, 1848 in Attala Co., MS. Catherine was the daughter of William B. Ray and Ellender Roach. Can anyone give me her place of burial? Thanks -- Thelmarie "Thel" Alexander Curtis [email protected]