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    1. Looking for Family Connections
    2. Thelmarie Curtis
    3. Looking for proof of who my G-G-G-G-Grandfather might be. I can't seem to get beyond THOMAS ALEXANDER Here's what I know: 5. My G-G-G-Grandfather: THOMAS ALEXANDER Born: January 19, 1788 - Kentucky Co., VA [became KY] Died: September 04, 1853 - Tuscaloosa Co., AL Married: abt 1818 in either TN or AL Spouse: RACHEL PRYOR [Dau of Joseph Pryor & Sarah Odle] Born: December 27, 1797 - TN Died: Aft. July 02, 1880 - Tuscaloosa Co., AL 4. My G-G-Grandfather : JOSEPH "Joe" ALEXANDER Born: September 10, 1825 - AL Died: December 18, 1886 - New Willard, Polk Co., TX Married: December 16, 1847 - Tuscaloosa Co., AL Spouse: MARY FRANCES PETERS [dau of Joseph William Peters & Frances Oates] Born: January 15, 1827 - Tuscaloosa Co., AL Died: April 05, 1888 - New Willard, Polk Co., TX 3. My G-Grandfather: WILLIAM THOMAS "Tom" ALEXANDER Born: September 20, 1856 - Polk Co., TX Died: June 19, 1919 - Maryneal, Nolan Co., TX Married: January 18, 1877 - Polk Co., TX Spouse: EMMA ELLENDER YOUNG [dau of Jasper Newton Young & Margaret E. Massey] Born: August 20, 1857 - Leake Co., MS Died: January 22, 1941 - Maryneal, Nolan Co., TX 2. My Grandfather: JOHN ELIJAH "Liege" ALEXANDER Born: November 24, 1882 - Polk Co., TX Died: February 07, 1921 - Maryneal, Nolan Co., TX Married: December 25, 1907 - Livingston, Polk Co., TX Spouse: MINNIE LEE OATES [dau of Stephen Moses Oates & Margaret Ann Wilson] Born: July 13, 1889 - Panther Creek Woods, Polk Co., TX Died: December 08, 1978 - Houston, Harris Co., TX 1. My Father: ROGER HARRIS ALEXANDER Born: December 18, 1916 - Livingston, Polk Co., TX Died: April 14, 2002 - Columbus, Colorado Co., TX Thanks for your help. Thelmarie "Thel" Alexander Curtis [email protected]

    01/14/2005 01:51:35
    1. Mike Massey
    2. In other news, I just noticed on ESPN the other day they were showing a fellow by the name of Mike Massey and his incredible skill as a billiards player. I understand he is from Tennessee. Does anyone know who he is or whom he's related to? Sincerely, Bill Massey of Lewisburg/Marshall County, Tennessee

    01/11/2005 01:04:27
    1. Massey/Whaley of VA in 1700s
    2. Carolyn Vosburg
    3. Would like to locate an Elizabeth Massey d. 1776 probably in VA. She md. Edward Whaley/Whalley b. ca 1700 possibly of Jefferson Co, VA. One of their sons, James Whaley md. an Elizabeth Page 6 Mar 1808 in Jefferson Co, VA (Now West Virginia!) Not much to go on, I know. It's one of those "brick walls"! Carolyn Whaley Vosburg Houston, TX

    01/10/2005 05:24:01
    1. MASSEY/EVATT
    2. Eleonore Crespo
    3. Hi, does anyone know whose son is FRANKLIN GAILARD 'GALE' MASSEY born 1883, married MARY EUNICE EVATT born 1887;both died in Anderson Co.SC; thanks, Eleonore

    11/10/2004 05:01:47
    1. Re: [MASSEY-L] message to everyone
    2. Jane Massie
    3. Mary, I don't know if this could be your John Massey ( Somewhere along the way they began spelling it Massie.) I have in my files a John Massie, he was the son of Moses Massie and Rebecca Lewis. I have his birth date as 1810 on the frontier of western Virginia. Moses and his family show up in Jackson County, Ohio in the 1820 census. My information is that he married Samantha Darling b. 1814 in Pennsylvania. He Died 1888 in Lawrence County,Ohio. That is about all I know of John Massie (Massey). Moses and Rebecca moved to Lawrence County, Ohio and are buried there. Moses died there and left his estate to Rebecca with instructions that it should pass on to their son Moses A. Massie. This may be of no help to you but please let me know. William DeWitt Massie (Bill) [email protected] P S This John Massie was the brother of Robert who was my GGgrandfather. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: [MASSEY-L] message to everyone > Please help me! John B. Massey, born 1804 or 1810. Was in Tennessee, > had > son Calvin and daughter Josephine. Moved to Mississippi about 1840, > married > Catherine Harreld. Settled in Madison County, Mississippi. Died there > in > 1885. Will appreciate any information. My great-grandfather. > Mary Colbert >

    10/29/2004 12:59:52
    1. message to everyone
    2. Please help me! John B. Massey, born 1804 or 1810. Was in Tennessee, had son Calvin and daughter Josephine. Moved to Mississippi about 1840, married Catherine Harreld. Settled in Madison County, Mississippi. Died there in 1885. Will appreciate any information. My great-grandfather. Mary Colbert

    10/29/2004 10:31:47
    1. MASSEY/HINSON
    2. Eleonore Crespo
    3. Hi, was wondering if anyone has the parents for FRANCIS or FRANCES MASSEY without dates/places, married to JOHN DANIEL HINSON,II born 1792; thanks for checking, Eleonore http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~mandaley/Massey-index.html

    10/22/2004 01:25:34
    1. Why use genetic genealogy?
    2. Theron L.Smith
    3. The following post on WADE-L might also be of interest to MASSEYs who are considering doing a DNA test. Eldon is the organizer and administrator of a WADE DNA Project. Of course, our MASSEY result page is http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~mandaley/MasseyDNAresults.html Regards to all, Theron Smith From: "Eldon Wade" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:30 AM Hi Folks, Here are some reasons for participating in the WADE surname DNA project: 1. Determine if two people are related and descended from the same ancestor 2. Confirm your family tree 3. Find out if others with your surname are related 4. Prove or disprove your research or research theories 5. Find others to whom you are related 6. Offer clues about your ethnic origin 7. Determine a location for further research 8. Confirm surname variants 9. Identify specific family units for further research 10. Bridge gaps of lost or destroyed records You can learn about the WADE project and genetic genealogy in general at the web site here: http://home.cfl.rr.com/wade3/ <snip>

    10/10/2004 07:55:12
    1. Federal Attempt to Close Birth Records
    2. Carla Tate
    3. The bill seeking to attempt to do this is HR 10. For further information, please see www.rootdig.com/hr10.html This bill is on a fast track; they are trying to pass it before the election. Please contact your representatives immediately after reading the suggested language listed on the above web site. We as genealogists need access to these records. Delayed birth records can get us back to people born in the late 1800's (these are birth records issued when a person is older in life but needs a birth certificate. Thanks. Carla Tate

    10/07/2004 04:04:10
    1. Congressional Attempt to Restrict Birth Certificates
    2. Carla Tate
    3. The message below came from the Association of Professional Genealogists list. Interesting that until now, births, marriages and deaths were prerogatives of the states, not the federal government. Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 15:09:02 -0400 From: "Joy Rich" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Access to Birth Certificates/U.S. Congress Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here is a direct link to information about the bill. The colon at the end of the URL is part of the URL. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.00010: Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Rich To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:36 AM Subject: Access to Birth Certificates/U.S. Congress This was received by Joy Rich and forwarded to APG: Four or more House committees approved this bill on Friday and presumably more will do so today. A similar bill is quickly being moved through the Senate. It is indeed on the very fast track.) YOUR ACTION IS REQUIRED NOW as U.S. House Resolution 10, which may severely restrict access to birth information, is on the pre-election fast track. (As this is a specifically U.S. legislative issue, action is only requested of U.S. residents. However, it is copied to all IAJGS leaders for your awareness of the issue.) The U.S. Congress is currently considering a bill that may result in significant difficulty for our members in obtaining birth certificates from the various States and localities. You need to contact your representatives, and encourage your members to contact their representatives, recommending specific modifications to the bill. These modifications will not negate the intention of the bill, but will make it less likely that the unintended result will be severe restrictions on obtaining birth certificates for genealogical research. H.R. 10 (House Resolution 10), whose purpose is to respond to the threat of terrorism, is on the fast track to passage. It was introduced on September 24th, will likely get through the various House committees this coming week, and voted upon during the week after. It is being sponsored by a wide array of House leaders, led by the speaker of the House, Mr. Hastart, and will be pushed hard so that it can be signed by the President prior to the election. This bill covers a lot of ground in its 542 pages. However the specific portions that I wish to bring to your intention are its provisions regarding requirements on the States and localities to tighten access to birth certificates. So long as this only focuses on CERTIFIED birth certificates, this should not greatly impact our research. However, the wording is sufficiently broad so that States and localities, in complying with the bill's provisions, may equally restrict both CERTIFIED and NON-CERTIFIED birth certificates, severely impacting genealogical research. The IAJGS has joined with the Genealogical Society of Utah, the FGS and the NGS in our opposition to the bill as it currently stands. I strongly urge you to send a letter to your representative, letting him/her know of your concern with the bill, and recommending changes to address this issue. Given the tight timing, I encourage you to fax or email your representative and Speaker Hastart and to immediately follow this up by mailing handwritten or typewritten letters. The information below may help you in doing this: 1) How do I find out the name and contact information for my representative? Go to http://www.house.gov/ and enter your zip code. Follow the link to your representative's website to obtain his/her contact information. Speaker Hastart's website is http://www.house.gov/hastert/. 2) How can I read any or this entire bill and follow its progress? Go to http://www.house.gov/ and click on "Find a Bill or Law" (or go directly to http://thomas.loc.gov/). Now enter "HR10" for all current information about this bill. 3) How do I locate the section on birth certificates? As above and then click on "CHAPTER 2--IMPROVED SECURITY FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES." Within this chapter, you will see that SECTION 3063, paragraph (d)(2) directs that access to birth certificates be restricted. 4) Why is this a problem? While it appears that the intention is to tightly control the issuance of certified birth certificates, the wording in the above section does not make the distinction between certified and non-certified certificates. Should the States react by restricting both, this may severely limit our family research. 5) So, what do we want? The IAJGS recommends that clarifying wording be added to make it clear that this provision applies only to certified, and not non-certified birth certificates - nor to very old birth certificates. 6) How should I word my letter? While, you should word the letter in any way that is comfortable for you, we recommend you include the following as a portion of the letter. While I support the intention to increase security to protect the U.S. from terrorists and those who wish to improperly take U.S. identities, I am concerned that those researching their family's history continue to have access to non-certified birth records. Therefore, in order to support HR-10 I ask that you amend HR-10 Section 3063(d)(2) by adding the following wording to the existing paragraph, "However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non-certified copies of birth certificates or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record." I believe that this additional language is imperative so that the states do not react by restricting all certificates to comply with the law, rather than dealing with certified as opposed to non-certified birth certificates. This proposed amendatory language would remind them that they can and should be treated differently. 7) Why is timing urgent? This bill is on the fast track. It is being co-sponsored by much of the House leadership and is being concurrently "marked up" by various committees. It will likely be reported back to the full House this week and voted upon next week. The Senate is expected to follow a similarly expedited timeframe. The goal is clearly to be on record as acting strongly against terrorism and to do this prior to the election so that it might be used in the campaign. 8) How does the IAJGS deal with such things? The IAJGS maintains a Public Records Access Committee, chaired by IAJGS board director, Jan Meisels Allen. This Committee is charged with pursuing issues in which access to public records might be inappropriately limited. Jan further represents the IAJGS on a working group with the FGS and NGS so that we might take properly coordinated actions on issues of common interest. This is one such issue. Again, YOUR ACTION IS REQUIRED NOW as House Resolution 10, which may severely restrict access to birth information, is on the pre-election fast track. Hal Bookbinder, president, IAJGS Carla Tate

    10/06/2004 02:39:42
    1. MASSEY DNA (part 2)
    2. Theron L.Smith
    3. If you haven't checked the Massey DNA data base lately, it's at: [dna24.a03] http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~mandaley/MasseyDNA.html I previously wrote: <<So far only one [Group 1; Haplogroup "R1b"] of the eight groups represented have had a sample from more than one Massey man. The families of this group were first found in VA; then in NC, SC, TN, GA, AL, MO, etc. Four DNA samplers appear to be descendants of [but definitely closely related to] the three men - Hezekiah(2), Joseph(2), and Richard(2) -who are clearly identified as BROTHERS in the books by Judge Frank Massey (1979) and William W. Massey (2000.) I will provide a review in another post of the interesting results and conclusions from the DNA submitted by the four men from this group.>> Here goes! Of these four matching DNA samples, one has only 12 markers identified to date. The other three have 25 markers identified. Two of these [kits #13401 and #16720] are identical for the first 25 markers. Another kit (#7136) has a count for marker 9 one less than that of the first two kits. The experts say (1) this marker has a history of more mutations than any other marker, and (2) a difference of one in one marker out of 25 is not considered significant if the two samplers have the same last name. From conventional research, the genealogies of the two samplers that match exactly go back to Hezekiah (2) and Richard (2) Massey - placed as brothers by the two Massey authors. So it's a reasonable going in position that the common DNA of #13401 and #16720 can be considered the "base line" DNA for this branch of the family. [Interestingly, Judge Massey had a hypothetical basis for also placing sampler #7136 as a descendant of Richard (2). I will also note that my own conventional genealogy indicates that I am also from Richard(2), but since I am not a Massey man, I can't use DNA to prove or disprove my connection.] Using the combined power of (1) traditional source document genealogy with (2) the 21st century techniques of DNA testing is far superior to using either method by itself. Consider the following interesting observation: From the way DNA is passed (virtually unchanged from father to son}, all direct male descendants of a common ancestor will have the same DNA pattern. Mutations do occur but they are very rare. So we expect #13401, his father, grandfather, great grandfather, ... and 6-great grandfather Hezekiah(2) of #13401 to have identical DNA. Likewise for #16720. back to his 7-great grandfather Richard(2). So although we'll never be able to test the DNA of Hezekiah(2) and Richard (2), we can state with confidence that it was the same as that of samplers #13401 and #16720! Since the two samplers were no closer than 8th cousins once removed, yet have identical DNA, we can be even more definite that their common DNA can be used as the "base line" DNA for this branch of MASSEYs against which other Massey men believed to be of that branch can be tested. So: 1. It is realistic to say that Massey men, whose DNA is identical (or almost identical to that) of the baseline DNA defined above, are almost certainly of the Massey line represented by the three brothers. To be sure that they are actually descended from one of the brothers requires using both DNA and conventional research. 2. Even more definite is that a mismatch of a DNA sampler with that of the baseline indicates that the sampler is descended from a different Massey branch and that the need for more conventional research is indicated. I am extremely interested in the Massey DNA research both from the standpoint of what individual Massey men can learn from their test as well as the cumulative effect of learning more about the interrelations or lack thereof of US and other Massey branches. I'll be happy to help where I can in determining a connection with one of the brothers (when a test matches the the base line) or in suggesting new lines of research for those whose DNA is not compatible with the brothers' baseline. Promising prospects to be tested for having the same DNA as the established "base line" include but are not limited to the apparent male descendants of Hezekiah(2 [whose sons were John*, Richard, Hezekiah Jr. and William], Joseph(2) [sons John, Hezekiah, Joseph, William, Thomas, and James] and Richard(2) [sons William*, Hezekiah*, John, and Richard Jr] Of course, any Massey man tested is potentially a descendant of the BROTHERS, but if not, his test will help to establish a base line DNA for other Massey branches. [Those with a asterisk appear to have at least one descendant with a DNA test.] For any Massey man interested in testing, I'll repeat Eleanore's recent directions: Just click onto the internet link above. Then on the Massey DNA page, click onto the word 'form' to bring you directly to the order page. You can fill out this form on-line. I'd recommend that you choose the 25 marker test [$171.00, inclding S&H.] You can pay directly on-line or wait until your kit arrives and pay by check or credit card when you return the DNA kit. In the kit is a 'release' form, which you need to sign and return with the kit - to give Eleonore permission to share the results on our webpage. Your kit number and earliest known ancestor, but not your identity, will be displayed on the webpage. Best regards to all, Theron Smith Private Email: [email protected] (Eleonore) [email protected]

    10/03/2004 07:47:58
    1. Recent DNA News
    2. Theron L.Smith
    3. First of all, I want to express publicly my appreciation for Eleanore'sbeing administrator of the MASSEY DNA Project! If you haven't checked the data base lately, it's at: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~mandaley/MasseyDNA.html [click on: MasseyDNATestResults] Whether or not your DNA test leads to finding new or to validating already known specific ancestry or cousins, it will give a clue as to where your ancestors in the direct male lived before they bore a name similar to MASSEY and before migrating to England, Scotland, or Ireland. Twelve Massey men have submitted their MASSEY DNA for testing. These fall into eight different groups. but only three different MAJOR groups (Haplogroups.) Ten of the submitted samples are in major group "R1b", with one sample in "I" and one in "G". Reduced to simplest terms, "R1b" means you descend in the male line from the most common group of humans (farmer-gatherers) that populated SW Europe after the last glaciers melted; "I" most likely means from the Scandinavian Vikings, many of whom invaded England and left their mark on the population there; "G" means being from central Asia before migrating to and introducing "improved" agriculture to Europe. [My own SMITH DNA showed to be in Haplogroup "I".] Using the combined power of researching traditional source documents with the 21st century techniques of DNA testing is far superior than using either method by itself. The better known purpose of DNA testing - the finding and/or validation of specific ancestors requires samples from at least two MASSEY men with the same ancestor. Most discovered matches occur within the last 5 to 15 generations. From the way DNA is passed (virtually unchanged from father to son}, all direct male descendants of a common ancestor will havethe same DNA pattern. Mutations do occur but they are very rare. So far only one [Group 1; Haplogroup "R1b"] of the eight groups represented have had a sample from more than one Massey man. The families of this group were first found in VA; then in NC, SC, TN, GA, AL, MO, etc. These appear to be descendants of [but definitely closely rerlated to] the three men - Hezekiah(2), Joseph(2), and Richard(2) - who are clearly identified as BROTHERS in the books by Judge Frank Massey (1979) and William W. Massey (2000.) I will provide a review in another post of the interesting results and conclusions from the DNA submitted by the four men from this group. I believe other Massey branches can achieve similar results if more men will submit samples for analysis. In particular, samples are needed from MASSEY groups such as descendants from Thomas Massey of Chester Co., PA; the Maryland Masseys [we already have two samples from this area, but the DNA is not the same]; Peter Massie of New Kent Co., VA [we may already have one sample from here] and Masseys from other VA areas. Samples from descendants of Massey families who didn't leave England could also find help in unraveling the many Massey groups and their relationship to each other. I would especially love to see results of samples from the Cheshire and Cambridgeshire areas of England. For any Massey man interested in DNA testing, I will include the following based on Eleanore's recent directions: Just click onto the Internet link listed above. Then on the Massey DNA page, click onto the underlined word 'form' to bring you directly to the order page. You can fill out and submit this form on-line. I would recommend that you choose the 25-marker test [Y-DNA25; $171.00, including S & H] You can pay directly on-line or wait until your kit arrives and pay by check or credit card when you return the DNA kit. In the kit is a 'release' form, which you need to sign and return with the kit - to give Eleonore permission to share the results on the webpage. Your kit number and earliest proven ancestor, but not your identity will be displayed on the webpage. Best regards to all, Theron Smith Private Email: (myself) [email protected] (Eleonore) [email protected]

    09/24/2004 06:23:00
    1. William Arthur MASSEY born 1867 (Father Edward MASSEY)
    2. Donald Massey
    3. I have been unable to trace the above after he witnesssed his brother's marriage in 1909. He was born in Ruabon, DEN but moved at an early age with the family to Chester. I have found a possible trace in 1901 at Llandudno, when his occupation was (as it had been for several years) nurseryman. There is no obvious death or marriage for him in GRO or Cheshire Indexes. Would he have been too old for Army service in 1914 at the age of 47 in 1914? If he had joined up, how could I trace him? Donald Massey

    08/10/2004 03:40:46
    1. Thomas MASSEY born Erbistock DEN 1827
    2. Donald Massey
    3. I have been unable to trace the above after he witnessed his brother's marriage at Ruabon in 1848. He does not appear in the 1851 census for Denbighshire or Flintshire, nor those parts of Cheshire I have searched so far, nor is there any obvious marriage or death for him in GRO or Cheshire BMD Indexes. If he had joined the Army around this time, is it likely to have been in Wrexham, or would he have had to go to nearby Chester? Where would I find any records? Donald Massey

    08/10/2004 03:33:42
    1. Some sites of possible interest
    2. Good Evening Everyone, Many states, historical societies, and other entities are now putting up sites that are of interest to genealogists. Here are some that I have run across: Maryland State Archives http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/ Missouri State Archives http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/resources.asp Oregon State Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/genealogy.htm Oregon Genealogical Society - Oregon Pioneers http://www.rootsweb.com/~orlncogs/or-pioneers1.htm Tennessee State Library and Archives http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/tslahome.htm Friends of the Metro Archives - Nashville and Davidson Co., Tennessee History http://www.geocities.com/metroarchives/index.html Texas State Library - Genealogy http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/genfirst.html#indigent Library of Virginia http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/index.htm University of Washington Libraries - Digital Collections http://content.lib.washington.edu/pioneerlifeweb/index.html Arizona State Library Archives http://www.dlapr.lib.az.us/archives/ Arizona Genealogy Birth and Death Certificates - actual scanned images of the documents http://genealogy.az.gov/ Illinois State Archives Databases http://cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html Indiana State Library - Marriage Database http://199.8.200.229/db/marriages_search.asp Kentucky Historical Society - research databases http://catalog.kyhistory.org/ Chronicles of Oklahoma database http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/ National Park Service - Civil War Soldiers and Sailors database http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ Hope some of you find some of these helpful. If you know of other sites I sure would appreciate knowing about them. Thanks and have a great week. Emma

    08/08/2004 05:48:46
    1. Re Macy/Robinson
    2. Barb and Don
    3. Hi Everyone, I'm looking for a Judith Macy, b. 15 Mar 1793, Ghent, NY and d. Rochester 24 Mar. 1863 who m. a John Robinson, b. 19 Feb 1796 in Canada and d. in Rochester, NY, 17 Apr 1867 AND ANY FAMILY THEY MAY HAVE HAD. Dates may not be exactly correct. He was owner of a Robinson Lumber Co. in Rochester and my gg gf. became partners with him. This comany made the highly prized , in Rochester, Robinson chairs too. Thanks so much for any help anyone can give me. Barb Chase Thompson [email protected]

    07/19/2004 11:08:41
    1. Re Phebe Barnard/Aaron Macy
    2. Barb and Don
    3. Hi Everyone, I have just joined your list as I have come across an LDS file entitled Massey-Aaron Macy. I would really like to hear from the person who submitted this. My Phebe Barnard m. Aaron Macy. Phebe was my ggg grandmother and after Aaron's death, she m. Benjamin Chase. She did not die in Rochester, NY. I have up to date info on this, my family, which I would be happy to share. I would like to see what you have and compare notes. Thanks so much! Barb Chase Thompson [email protected]

    07/16/2004 11:00:04
    1. Job or Jobe Massey [cont]
    2. Theron L.Smith
    3. > Anna wrote: >> Fellow Searchers, is there anyone with knowledge of the decendants of > Jobe Massey in 1860 Newton County, Ms.>> As Donna Dixon has pointed out, the ancestry.com index 1860 index shows a JOHN Massey 60 in Newton Co., but no Jobe Massey. The entry is or should have been JOBE Massey . The household just before Jobe is indexed as "Austin Nessey" - almost certain;y should have been MASSEY (see later in this post.) The Jobe in 1860 could be either the Jobe in 1850 Attala Co., MS or he Jobe in 1850 LaFayette Co., MS. The Jobe of interest was probably son of an Avery Massey and was almost certainly descended from the Quakers Thomas Massey and Phoebe Taylor of Chester Co., PA. This branch of Masseys is covered in Chapter 6 of Judge Massey's MASSEY GENEALOGY ADDENDUM and is not closely related to our Charles City Co., VA branch - both branches appear to be from co. Chester, England. [Don't confuse the two CHESTER counties just referenced!] But I'm going in the wrong direction for Anna! We need to nail down which SON of Jobe Anna is from. Possible children of Jobe and Elizabeth [all born in AL] are: -Francis [1830/1], Anspence [1834/5], and Emily T. [1836/78] from the 1850 Attala Co., MS census -Asberry [1833/4], Augustine [1835/6], Emily J. [1837/8] from the 1850 Lafayette Co., MS census Some of these children should be in 1870 or 1880. The 1860 Newton Co., MS Austin Massey, could be either Anspence or Augustin. I have a feeling the two 1850 families must be the same one [with errors in both original tabulations] who may have moved during the year. We can check the enumeration dates on both censuses and see if there are two Jobes in an 1860 census. It should be possible to unravel this confusion - but not today! Regards to all, Theron Smith

    07/08/2004 06:43:23
    1. Job, son John, grandson John H. Massey
    2. Thank you all for the help. I tried looking in Texas last night and found John Massey as a fourteen yr. old as a laborer in the home of G.W. Sowell.He was in Freestone Co.,Tx.1870 census then found him, I believe again in 1880 in Morris Co.,Tx. as a hirling living in another household. This is a very good match as I found my great grandmother in Morris Co. on the 1920 census. John Holland Massey died in Feb. 1910 before the census was taken and the great grandmom moved to Texarkana then disappeared before 1920.It has taken me seven yrs to find her again. But I believe I may be onto something concrete now. Anna

    07/08/2004 04:51:03
    1. Jobe (John) Massey Newton CO. MS
    2. Donna Dixon
    3. There is a Archy Massey 35 Ireland wife Laze 42 Ireland Susan 15 Ireland HH 1033 Austin Massey 25 Miss Mary 17 Mary 1 HH 1034 Jobe (John) 60 SC This is possible John Massey ( Ancestry. COM) shows John in Index. Elizabeth 70 Ga Nancy Blacksmith 34 William "" 10 Davis "" 8 -----Original Message----- From: Theron L.Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 7:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MASSEY-L] Job or Jobe Massey Anna wrote: >> Fellow Searchers, is there anyone with knowledge of the decendants >> of Jobe Massey in 1860 Newton County, Ms. He is a very good possibility for the Grandfather of my John H. Massey. I think he and the other Massey men left Newton Co., Ms. before 1870. There aren't any Masseys' on the 1870 Census of Newton Co., Ms. Where did they go?> The Civil War disrupted many families. What does 1860 Newton County, Ms say about Jobe/Job and his family - ates, places of birth, etc. Need to look in all 1870/1880/1900 for Job/Jobe Masseys. Need to find John H. Massey in any census and determine, if possible, neignboring Masseys and where they were from. Theron Smith.

    07/08/2004 01:17:13