Hello Jan, Is there a possiblility that Ales Gramling was mispelled from "Gremling"? If so, that puts my Gremling-Martin line farther back than I thought. Thanks, Maureen > Margae, > > In my database, I have Alice Martin listed as a brother of William H. Martin > (who was born in Lawrence County, TN). They are listed as the children of > Lewis H. Martin and Ales Gramling Martin. >