John I am looking among all my Martins Va and N.C. Tn, Al, Ms...so far no Isaac. No Spangler as well..Will send you anything I see that name on...I do same way for Jacob Martin b abt 1788. I knew what you meant about the census...sometimes you can find a common name like that among several if you can pin-point the year he got there, or year left.I have spent hours on census to determine which Jacob was still there...after I knew mine left.But I still didn't find him. Stella