For Maggie You are the only other Martin researcher that I have run across with Hawkins as a middle name . Mine was Joseph Hawkins Martin born abt 1790-1798 in the Barnwell/Charleston area of SC. Married to Elizabeth "betsy" Bates. and was in this same area thru the 1850 census and then shows up in Emanuel County GA on the 1860 census. He had remarried by that time to a lady by the name of Julia and right now I can't remember her last name. He is buried in the Youngblood Cemetery in Statesville, GA. Further back that this man is a gigantic brick wall for everyone researching this line. Just thought it was a huge coincidence. Would your William Hawkins and his ancestors happen to have been in SC during this time frame. Carolyn Martin Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: ROOZOO8@aol.com<mailto:ROOZOO8@aol.com> To: martin@rootsweb.com<mailto:martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 33 For Barbara Samuels: Yes, you have come to the right place! Someone on this board does have your William Harvey Martin, but he is NOT the son of John Martin and Isabell Scott. He was one of my early rabbit trails and I spent many an hour chasing him. My ancestor is William HAWKINS Martin, son of John Martin and Isabell Martin. After 30 years of research and TONS of documentation, I am absolutely certain your William Harvey is NOT the son of John and Isabell. I have William Hawkins Martin's discharge papers from the Civil War stating his middle name as Hawkins. I also have bible records that mach his birthdate to this William Hawkins and list him as the son of John and Isabell. John and Isabell's William H. was born 5/28/1823 and died 7/2/1893. I also have allhis descendency information and letters written between his brothers and parents during the civil war. Your William Harvey is often incorrectly listed by many people as the son of John and Isabell and it made my life miserable for years trying to connect him So don't feel bad, there is a lot of mis-information out there, that is why this group is so valuable. The good news is he is not John and Isabell's son, because so far, nobody but nobody has been able to find their parents for sure. Several guesses out there, but nothing concrete that I know of. However, your William Harvey is pretty well documented I believe. He is not mine and I cannot help you. But, there are definitely people here that can. Try going to the threaded archives and checking the old posts. If you do not know how to do that, contact our list administrator and she can tell you how to do it. Don't despair, knowing who you are NOT related to, is often just as important as knowing who you ARE related to. I wish you luck and good hunting! Welcome aboard. Best regards, Maggie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message