Hi Laura, if the DNA is correct, Abraham isn't related to Jacob. Abraham is posted in Group 5 at: http://small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/results.htm Julia In a message dated 1/29/2007 8:19:53 PM Central Standard Time, elhzm@comcast.net writes: Julia By ANY chance- is there an ABRAHAM MARTIN in that line born 1797 in SC??? Laura