Hang in there, Karen...you will find someone... BTW - German Baptist Brethren(sometimes called Dunkers) and Mennonites are anabaptist in doctrine, as well as present day Baptists, Pentecostals, Church of Christ, and all others who reject infant Baptism. My ggggg-grandfather John Martin just seems to appear in the area of Old Effingham County, GA before the Revolutionary War...He is noted in Deed records as a Minister of the Gospel, and ca1900, his g-grandson A.G. Martin recorded that he was a member of the Dunker denomination. He received multiple Land Grants before and after the Revolution, some of which are speculated to be Bounty for Military Service. Grand-father John died in 1809 in Bulloch County. His only documented wife was named Elizabeth, and I believe that she died before 1808. It is accepted that he had five children: James(b1756); Elijah; Rachel; Mary; and my gggg-grandmother Mercy, who was born in 1771. They were closely allied with the Swiss-Germanic Gyger/Gieger/Geiger/Giger/Gigger family who arrived in Charleston, SC on 1 Feb 1737. If you can relate to any of these, Please... Gerry >From: "bruce collins" <bcollins@insight.rr.com> >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [MARTIN] Swiss and German Martins >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:08:26 -0400 > >I'd like to know if I am subscribed to the correct Martin >list. My Martins have Swiss and German lineage and >were Anabaptists who immigrated to PA in the 1700's >and I haven't seen any such Martins referred to since >I joined. > >Karen Collins >Columbus, OH > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <martin-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:00 AM >Subject: MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 99 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Martin Surname (CarolinaRamosdeL@aol.com) > > 2. Re: Martin Surname (CarolinaRamosdeL@aol.com) > > 3. Re: Martin Surname Dates, places, please (JULIAFWOOD@aol.com) > > 4. Re: Martin Surname maryland (Sherrycream@aol.com) > > 5. Re: Martin Surname Dates, places, please (Hale_Genealogy) > > 6. Re: Unique individual Martins (Karen K) > > 7. Re: Martin Surname (Drew Smith) > > 8. Re: Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > (JULIAFWOOD@aol.com) > > 9. Re: Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > (Peter J. Ashford) > > 10. Re: Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE (Janet) > > 11. Martin (Gmbrooks943@aol.com) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:41:36 EDT > > From: CarolinaRamosdeL@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <c4c.17cd718c.33ac66b0@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > thank you Drew. > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:42:48 EDT > > From: CarolinaRamosdeL@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <c2d.132970f7.33ac66f8@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > another example of inappropriate content. > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:50:00 EDT > > From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname Dates, places, please > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <cc1.14713bd0.33ac68a8@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > > > This list is for the posting of your Martin Genealogy. Please use the > > subject line for listing the names, dates, locations, etc. and keep the > > body of > > your message on Martin genealogy only. > > Julia French Wood > > Martin List Adm. > > > > In a message dated 6/21/2007 6:42:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > CarolinaRamosdeL@aol.com writes: > > > > thank you Drew. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:54:15 EDT > > From: Sherrycream@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname maryland > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <cb9.143a6d4b.33ac69a7@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:04:29 -0400 > > From: "Hale_Genealogy" <whale41@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname Dates, places, please > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <002301c7b460$e774cc80$6401a8c0@D4TY7G61> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Thank you. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname Dates, places, please > > > > > >> > >> > >> This list is for the posting of your Martin Genealogy. Please use the > >> subject line for listing the names, dates, locations, etc. and keep the > >> body of > >> your message on Martin genealogy only. > >> Julia French Wood > >> Martin List Adm. > >> > >> In a message dated 6/21/2007 6:42:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >> CarolinaRamosdeL@aol.com writes: > >> > >> thank you Drew. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ************************************** See what's free at > >> http://www.aol.com. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:30:56 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Karen K <kerrweinc2002@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Unique individual Martins > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <441889.19896.qm@web90603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Oh, now I see the problem. Confrontation about personal beliefs that >have > > NOTHING to do with genealogy, or do they? I have gone back and traced >the > > original postings. At one point Mr.Bish did post a message regarding > > genealogy{ his personal by-line,signature) contained what irritated > > someone named Carol. Personal signatures are quite different than >postings > > to the list. However, they can be like red flags to a bull. They are >tests > > of each of our maturity in communicating. If you were at the mall and a > > person with a lot of body piercings and spiked hair approached would you > > tell them off for being at your mall?? Or what if it were some people > > passing out literature for a local gay pride day, or for a Christian >rally > > around the flag day? Would you politely ignore and pass by the ones that > > you disagree with, or would you see a red flag and charge? > > I refuse to believe that Mr.Bish's personal by-line is the first time > > that you have ever met someone with an opinion alien to yours. In > > cyberspace you are invisible unless you identify yourself. Carole took > > Bish's bait and identified herself. The rest of us are so used to >by-lines > > that we took no notice of anything but his potential to be a Martin > > cousin. > > Do you really want to find ancestors and cousins? Were you expecting >that > > they would all be of the same persuasion that you are? I would have an > > empty tree if that were my case. I have missionaries, preachers, horse > > thieves, slave traders, brothel owners, mayors, orphanage builders, and > > poets in my tree. I was astounded to find that my g g grandmother was > > actively engaged in local politics in her time, if I refused her > > admittance to my heritage because she was not just a sweet little old >lady > > baking,sewing, and raising crops instead of hell, it would be my loss >and > > that of my descendants. > > Give Bish a break, he did not post anything other than genealogy until > > you challenged his by-line. That is allowed, you can make yourself one >too > > and risk drawing the ire of people like yourself, who disagree with your > > position. You and Bish are both Martin descendants and potential cousins > > to the rest of us. Let it go. > > > > Karen,-- ( a past holder of the bullhorn at rallies, but working more > > effectively, one on one for the cause of Christ) Don't bring it on, I do > > not want to fight. Would not use this by-line, if it did not make a >point. > > Just post your own colors up front. You are just as entitled and >probably > > related to several of us. Just keep it in the personal signature, >cousin. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a PS3 game guru. > > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! > > Games. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:37:42 -0400 > > From: "Drew Smith" <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <5e931bb30706211737y2e79bcd0ud10a97720b1cc187@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Larry, I would personally find *any* discussion of politics or > > religion to be off-topic here, regardless of my own personal views > > about particular politics or particular religions. > > > > I also record religious notes about my ancestors in my files, and > > there's certainly nothing wrong, in my opinion, with mentioning on a > > genealogy mailing list that a particular ancestor was an adherent to a > > particular religion (or to none at all), because that is part of their > > lives and may even help us to discover records about them. The same > > is true about the political views of our ancestors. > > > > But, in my personal opinion, *advocating* a particular religious point > > of view (or advocating an atheistic point of view), or advocating a > > particular political point of view, are off topic for a genealogy > > list. > > > > And I believe that is what was being objected to here. I don't use > > genealogy-oriented lists to talk about my own personal religious or > > political views, and I would hope that others don't, either. I'm here > > to learn and to discuss things that will help me know my ancestors > > better. The religious and political views of other posters doesn't > > help me do that. And I respect the other posters here by not > > discussing my own personal views about any religion or politics. > > > > Drew Smith > > > > On 6/21/07, BishTreeClimber@aol.com <BishTreeClimber@aol.com> wrote: > >> Only could be inappropiate to a athiest, all others believe in god. as > >> our > >> forefathers did. Athiests were not an issue then and I don't honor > >> their > >> stupid opinions now or ever.Most of us Trust in a God on some form be >we > >> Catholics, Methodists, Mormons, Buddists, Moslems, or even Radicial > >> Moslems. I > >> record in my Genealogical records all religous notes. Detractors > >> probably wish > >> the that be purged as well. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:54:24 EDT > > From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <d6a.9489349.33ac77c0@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Must I say this again? Yes, that means you and you and you. > > > > Genealogy only, please. > > > > Julia French Wood > > Martin Project Adm. > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:09:09 +1200 > > From: "Peter J. Ashford" <ashes@xtra.co.nz> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <000401c7b469$f0c3d480$692c56d2@BRABAZON10> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Well said Julia. > > > > My [paternal] grandfather's sister Mary Ashford, was a teacher at Crew's > > Hole school, Bristol, UK. She married a George Martin, who was a > > "horse-haulier" of St Phillip's Marsh, Bristol, about 1900. Would like >to > > hear from anybody who thinks this may be their family line. I haven't >done > > any genealogy work on the Martin line....yet. > > > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > > > > >> Must I say this again? Yes, that means you and you and you. > >> > >> Genealogy only, please. > >> > >> Julia French Wood > >> Martin Project Adm. > >> > >> > >> > >> ************************************** See what's free at > >> http://www.aol.com. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:35:29 -0700 > > From: "Janet" <jgrabhorn@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <001c01c7b475$fff68db0$6401a8c0@home> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > I am decended from: > > Lewis Haden Martin, Jr., b. Jessup, GA - > > Louis Haden Martin, Sr, b. 1904, ??. > > Julias Alvin Martin, b. Lumpkin Co., GA(??) > > William M. Martin, b. N.C., > > .........from England? > > Growing up a Martin, it seemed being disagreeable was part of my > > heritage...it's funny to see how upset Martins can get ;) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter J. Ashford" <ashes@xtra.co.nz> > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > > > > > >> Well said Julia. > >> > >> My [paternal] grandfather's sister Mary Ashford, was a teacher at >Crew's > >> Hole school, Bristol, UK. She married a George Martin, who was a > >> "horse-haulier" of St Phillip's Marsh, Bristol, about 1900. Would like >to > >> hear from anybody who thinks this may be their family line. I haven't > >> done > >> any genealogy work on the Martin line....yet. > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> > >> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:54 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Only Martin: names, dates & locations PLEASE > >> > >> > >>> Must I say this again? Yes, that means you and you and you. > >>> > >>> Genealogy only, please. > >>> > >>> Julia French Wood > >>> Martin Project Adm. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ************************************** See what's free at > >>> http://www.aol.com. > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 11 > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:58:47 EDT > > From: Gmbrooks943@aol.com > > Subject: [MARTIN] Martin > > To: Martin-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <bdf.15ffca45.33ac94e7@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Dont think Julia ment for you to carry "Martin surname dates,places, > > please" > > in the subject line every time. Just wanted you to show the name of > > your ancestor - where he was from and dates in that line. > > > > It sure sould help if you could show your ancestor in the subject line > > instead of > > carrying same subject forward every time. This way everyone can see >who > > you > > > > are talking about in the subject. Most of the subject lines has >nothing > > to > > do with > > the text message. > > > > Gladys > > > > > > ************************************** > > See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the MARTIN list administrator, send an email to > > MARTIN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the MARTIN mailing list, send an email to > > MARTIN@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 99 > > ************************************* > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Who's that on the Red Carpet? 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