Oh, I had finished three years of College by that time, and I am fully aware of XX and XY Chromosomes, but my point was that just because someone does or does not carry the Surname, it does not mean that they are not Martin Descendants... Some people are placing too much hope on the DNA tests...We must remember that some folks who have the Martin surname may not really be descended from the bloodline because there were adoptions which were never acknowledged or documented, plus some children who were born into a family with the Martin surname were actually fathered by someone other than the Spouse of the mother...although it may have remained hidden and known only to the mother, who took it with her to her grave. Modern birth control only became known in the 20th Century... Let's not kid ourselves, people being people, the same things happened over the Centuries as go on today...not to mention that many freed-men took the surnames of their former Masters. I believe that if you have the male DNA link, wonderful; however there are a lot of folks who have a link, but just cannot prove it with present day DNA testing, so we have to rely on the time-tested hard-copy method...Bible Records; Deeds; Wills; name relationships; traditions; etc. Gerry >From: "Gwen Stuart" <GStuart1@cfl.rr.com> >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:09:23 -0400 > >No, it doesn't make us less of Martin descent, but we don't have the Y >chromosone that is carried and passed down by the male to the male. We >girls are XX (an X from each parent)and guys are XY (an X from the mother >and a Y from the father). It is because of the passing down of the Y that >the line can be traced back only on the males. > >If I remember correctly it was 1958 when Watson and Crick discovered DNA. >I'm sure there are many researchers on this list (and all all the lists) >that were already through school by the time DNA was discovered, to say >nothing of being taught in school. The older ones can not be expected to >have the same understanding of DNA as the younger ones. > >I hope this doesn't further confuse things . > >Gwen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:35 PM >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > > > > Exactly, but that doesn't make them any less a Martin descendant... > > > > > >>From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com > >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com > >>To: martin@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > >>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:18:02 EDT > >> > >> > >>If they come through the females, their names wouldn't be Martin. >Females > >>change their surname every generation. > >>Julia > >> > >>In a message dated 6/16/2007 1:16:29 PM Central Daylight Time, > >>giegerg@hotmail.com writes: > >> > >>Not if they came thru the Females... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>************************************** See what's free at > >>http://www.aol.com. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. > > >http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3