I hope the List Administrator steps in on this! I don't subscribe to a RootsWeb Surname list to hread stale relayed jokes that some people on the list may find objectionable! Please start a list of your own if you care to do this sort of thing! Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Martin" <bmartin@mtneer.net> To: "MARTIN- LIST" <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: [MARTIN] Fw: Redneck's kid > THE REDNECK'S KID > > Three third graders from Tennessee, an Irish kid, an Italian kid, and a > Redneck kid are on the playground at recess. The Irish kid suggests that > they play a new game. "Let's see who has the largest weenie," he says. > > "Okay." They all agree. > > The Italian kid pulls down his zipper and whips it out. > > "That's nothing," says the Irish kid. He whips his out and proudly shows > that his is at least an inch longer. > > Not to be outdone, the Redneck kid whips his out. It is by far not only > the biggest, but the fattest. > > That night, eating dinner at home, the Redneck kid's mother asks him what > he did at school today. "Oh, we worked on a science project, had a math > test, > and read out loud from a new book and then during recess, my friends and I > played a new game called 'Let's see who has the largest weenie'." > > "What kind of game is that, honey?" asks the mother. > > "Well, me, Anthony and Patrick each pulled out our weenies and I had the > biggest! The other kids say it's because I'm a Redneck. Is that true, > Mom?" > > Mom replies, "No, Honey. It's because you're twenty-one". > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Reagrding William Harvey MARTIN b. 1785 and d. 1855. He was born in Logan Co., KY married 17 Dec 1805 in Logan County to Susan A. WHITAKER. and died 1855 in Moultrie Co., IL. They had 6 children. His father my John MARTIN was born 1758 in VA, married 1779 in North Carolina to Sarah Isabella SCOTT and died 1825 in Lawrence Co., IL. William H. was married (2) to Cynthia Clark in IL and had 7 children. My William was not alive to serve in the Civil War so could not be William Hawkins. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <ROOZOO8@aol.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:18 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 33 > For Barbara Samuels: > Yes, you have come to the right place! Someone on this board does > have > your William Harvey Martin, but he is NOT the son of John Martin and > Isabell > Scott. He was one of my early rabbit trails and I spent many an hour > chasing > him. My ancestor is William HAWKINS Martin, son of John Martin and Isabell > Martin. > After 30 years of research and TONS of documentation, I am > absolutely > certain your William Harvey is NOT the son of John and Isabell. I have > William > Hawkins Martin's discharge papers from the Civil War stating his middle > name > as Hawkins. I also have bible records that mach his birthdate to this > William > Hawkins and list him as the son of John and Isabell. John and Isabell's > William H. was born 5/28/1823 and died 7/2/1893. I also have allhis > descendency > information and letters written between his brothers and parents during > the civil > war. > Your William Harvey is often incorrectly listed by many people as > the > son of John and Isabell and it made my life miserable for years trying to > connect him. So don't feel bad, there is a lot of mis-information out > there, that > is why this group is so valuable. The good news is he is not John and > Isabell's son, because so far, nobody but nobody has been able to find > their parents > for sure. Several guesses out there, but nothing concrete that I know of. > However, your William Harvey is pretty well documented I believe. He > is not mine and I cannot help you. But, there are definitely people here > that > can. Try going to the threaded archives and checking the old posts. If you > do > not know how to do that, contact our list administrator and she can tell > you > how to do it. Don't despair, knowing who you are NOT related to, is often > just > as important as knowing who you ARE related to. > I wish you luck and good hunting! Welcome aboard. > Best regards, > Maggie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for parents of Harvey Martin born 1813 VT Married Emily Unk Born 1811 MA They are my wife's 3rd GR Grandparents Any help much appreciated Thank You chuck administrator of the class and lape mailing lists

Maggie, I am researching this family...............could you provide a list of John Martin and Isabelle Scott Martin's children. Also, have you found any information about siblings or family members of Isabelle Scott Martin. I have always thought William Harvey Martin (1784-1852) was the son of John and Isabella, although I am not a direct descendant of him so have not researched him as much as other descendants of John and Isabella. I note that someone has posted William Hawkins Martin as being the son of William Harvey Martin (One World Tree). The William Harvey Martin in my tree, 1784 to 1852 would have been dead before the Civil War started. But, his children were born c. 1820. What are the names of William Hawkins Martin's siblings and parents in the correspondence you reference. Thanks. Jan Lowe Minneapolis In a message dated 2/5/2007 6:19:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, ROOZOO8@aol.com writes: For Barbara Samuels: Yes, you have come to the right place! Someone on this board does have your William Harvey Martin, but he is NOT the son of John Martin and Isabell Scott. He was one of my early rabbit trails and I spent many an hour chasing him. My ancestor is William HAWKINS Martin, son of John Martin and Isabell Martin. After 30 years of research and TONS of documentation, I am absolutely certain your William Harvey is NOT the son of John and Isabell. I have William Hawkins Martin's discharge papers from the Civil War stating his middle name as Hawkins. I also have bible records that mach his birthdate to this William Hawkins and list him as the son of John and Isabell. John and Isabell's William H. was born 5/28/1823 and died 7/2/1893. I also have allhis descendency information and letters written between his brothers and parents during the civil war. Your William Harvey is often incorrectly listed by many people as the son of John and Isabell and it made my life miserable for years trying to connect him. So don't feel bad, there is a lot of mis-information out there, that is why this group is so valuable. The good news is he is not John and Isabell's son, because so far, nobody but nobody has been able to find their parents for sure. Several guesses out there, but nothing concrete that I know of. However, your William Harvey is pretty well documented I believe. He is not mine and I cannot help you. But, there are definitely people here that can. Try going to the threaded archives and checking the old posts. If you do not know how to do that, contact our list administrator and she can tell you how to do it. Don't despair, knowing who you are NOT related to, is often just as important as knowing who you ARE related to. I wish you luck and good hunting! Welcome aboard. Best regards, Maggie

For Barbara Samuels: Yes, you have come to the right place! Someone on this board does have your William Harvey Martin, but he is NOT the son of John Martin and Isabell Scott. He was one of my early rabbit trails and I spent many an hour chasing him. My ancestor is William HAWKINS Martin, son of John Martin and Isabell Martin. After 30 years of research and TONS of documentation, I am absolutely certain your William Harvey is NOT the son of John and Isabell. I have William Hawkins Martin's discharge papers from the Civil War stating his middle name as Hawkins. I also have bible records that mach his birthdate to this William Hawkins and list him as the son of John and Isabell. John and Isabell's William H. was born 5/28/1823 and died 7/2/1893. I also have allhis descendency information and letters written between his brothers and parents during the civil war. Your William Harvey is often incorrectly listed by many people as the son of John and Isabell and it made my life miserable for years trying to connect him. So don't feel bad, there is a lot of mis-information out there, that is why this group is so valuable. The good news is he is not John and Isabell's son, because so far, nobody but nobody has been able to find their parents for sure. Several guesses out there, but nothing concrete that I know of. However, your William Harvey is pretty well documented I believe. He is not mine and I cannot help you. But, there are definitely people here that can. Try going to the threaded archives and checking the old posts. If you do not know how to do that, contact our list administrator and she can tell you how to do it. Don't despair, knowing who you are NOT related to, is often just as important as knowing who you ARE related to. I wish you luck and good hunting! Welcome aboard. Best regards, Maggie

In the 1900 census for District 84, Helena, Phillips County, Arkansas, we find the household of Adolphus Brown (born Aug 1865), wife Mary (born June 1870, mother of 6 children, 4 still living), and sons James (born Jan 1887) and Jesse James (shown as born Nov 1883, but should probably be 1893, as he is listed as only 6). Also in Helena (District 85) is a Milton Martin, born May 1863, no one else in his household. He is roughly the right age to be Ruben's son (who was 14 in the 1880 census). You may also find this link helpful, although I don't know the source of its information: http://us.geocities.com/freebirdnc/00028.htm#001 Regards, Drew Smith On 2/4/07, clarkappliance@bellsouth.net <clarkappliance@bellsouth.net> wrote: > In the 1880 census of Phillips Co, Ar I find my Martin line. CAN ANYONE HELP > > No record has been found of this family after then but just enough to know they were still there in 1940---------They are not listed on the 1900--10--20--30 census WHERE WERE THEY???????????? > > R.A. aka R.A. aka RUBEN MARTIN is listed on the 1880 census with several of his children some married some not married. > > A son JAMES H (?) MARTIN was found in the marriage records as marrying HESELTINE BROWN also a sister of James married ADOLPHUS BROWN. Bro and sister marrying bro and sister. Aolphus and wife died young leaving 2 sons that never knew anything about the Martin family.

In the 1880 census of Phillips Co, Ar I find my Martin line. CAN ANYONE HELP No record has been found of this family after then but just enough to know they were still there in 1940---------They are not listed on the 1900--10--20--30 census WHERE WERE THEY???????????? R.A. aka R.A. aka RUBEN MARTIN is listed on the 1880 census with several of his children some married some not married. A son JAMES H (?) MARTIN was found in the marriage records as marrying HESELTINE BROWN also a sister of James married ADOLPHUS BROWN. Bro and sister marrying bro and sister. Aolphus and wife died young leaving 2 sons that never knew anything about the Martin family. Can anyone help???????????????----------james

Hi! My info about JAMES B. MARTIN is that he came from Halifax Co, VA >TN>.Barren Co, KY>Wayne Co, IL>Searcy Co, AR. He died in Searcy Co, AR is my understanding. According to DNA testing which my Father participated in for us to try to trace our MARTIN line.................my ABRAHAM appears NOT to be genetically related to JAMES B. MARTIN of Halifax Co, VA. That seems strange to me; as they were in the SAME PLACE at the SAME TIME................but genetics fon't lie! SO- either my ABRAHAM was adopted; or THOUGHT he was JAMES B. MARTIN's bio son; or perhaps just RAISED by them: I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drives me NUTS!!!! At ANY rate.........if you look at the census of Wayne & White COunties, IL from 1820-1850; you will find all of those names and more in the MARTIN clan. Wish I could be more helpfl; but I can't even find a connection for my 3x GGrandfather ABRAHAM MARTIN after 9 years of searching!!!!!!!! Check out Wayne & White COunties, IL for LOTS more info regarding MARTINS- there were ALOT of them in/near/around there; that's for sure!!!!!! Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <JCMartin01@aol.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com>; <Martin1778@webtv.net> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Central Al Martins > > Laura, > Johnson Martin is an unusual name. I have a couple of them in my Martin > line; father and son. You mention that James went to Searcy County AR > before > 1840. I believe that I have found my Johnson Martin on the 1840 Searcy > County > census. In later census records for the children of Johnson IL is one of > the > places of birth listed for Johnson. Others are KY and VA. The names of > some of his children are Joseph, Robert and Johnson. > Can you tell me what information you have on the Johnson Martin that you > mention. Can you tell me his approximate age? Do you have anything more > on > James B. Martin? > Thanks, > Clarice Martin > > > In a message dated 1/29/2007 7:23:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > elhzm@comcast.net writes: > > Hi Stella > > YES- there were SEVERAL MARTIN's in/near/around Wayne County, IL that I > have, so far, NOT been able to "connect". > > Here are some of the names of those unconnected MARTIN's- maybe we could > find something?? > > JOHNSON MARTIN > NATHAN MARTIN (died near Wayne Co, IL) > JOSEPH MARTIN (died in Wayne Co, IL in 1821) > OBADIAH MARTIN > JACOB MARTIN > JOHN MARTIN > JAMES B. MARTIN )I know he went to AR before 1840- probably Searcy Co, > AR) > RAWLEY MARTIN > ROBERT MARTIN (married NANCY HEADY in mid-1820's in White Co, IL) > > My Dad's DNA test came back with a DNA match to Central AL MARTIN's- but > I > am unaware of ANY of my MARTIN clan who went to AL....so it MUST have > been > ABRAHAM's siblings/parents!!! > > I suspect ABRAHAM may have "struck out on his own" and went West; while > his > parents/siblings may have "gone South"- but no prrof!!!!!!!! > > I THOUGHT that JAMES B. MARTIN was most probably ABRAHAM's Father; but > DNA > did NOT support that theory...............SO..............either: > > A) he was adopted; or > > B) he was from a TOTALLY different MARTIN clan; or > > C) aliens "dropped him off" in IL.................; or > > D) he went "North"; while the rest went "South"; or > > E) he THOUGHT JAMES B. MARTIN was his Father- but he wasn't!!!!!!!!!!! > > VERY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Laura > elhzm@comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Martin1778@webtv.net> > To: <elhzm@comcast.net> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Central Al Martins > > >> My Alabama Martins camre into Shelby Co (Central Al )by 1840...so your >> Abraham may be brother to my Jacob Martin born about 1788 in SC He and >> his wife who was supposed to be Peggy Sapp had children in SC at the >> same time as yours does. So...on census is there a Jacob anywhere close >> to your Abraham in SC? Mine came to Al and yours to IL? Of course the >> Edgefield Martins also came to Central Al...I haven't yet commected to >> them... Anywherre for free land...there was a great movement to IL My >> fathers side all went there.Stella >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

hi wanted to see if anyone knows these names david t martin born 1902 ruth r bachman martin born 1915 her father's name was howard bachman wife anna bachman david t martin's parents was jacob martin mother martha myers martin

Does anyone have any information on a Samuel Martin who was born in Mahaska Co. Iowa most likely in the 1870's. His fathers name may have been John S. Martin. He married Florence Thornley. They lived on a ranch in Olds, Alberta Canada in the late 1880's... Their children are: Donald, Bessie, Ruth, Goldie, and they had an adopted son named Avery. Ruth Martin married a "Coles" and died in Bellingham, WA. Carol Anderson (Alexander+Mary Ann Martin of Mahaska Co. Iowa) Martin, Hauer, Hower, Ricketts, Riggs

Barb, You are in luck as that is someone on this list's line. They will probably contact you but in the meantime I have this on my Favorite Places. family1.htm Gladys

I wanted to see if anyone recognizes these names. They are my great, great grandparents and great grandparents. I really don't have all that much to go on, but here it is. My great, great grandparents were JAMES WILLIAM MARTIN born about 1805 died Feb. 23, 1882, he married EMMA GLASCOW (?) don't know when they married. He was called the Ol Sexton because he prepared the resting place of many Giles Countians, here in Pulaski, TN. I don't know where James and Emma are buried. Have no idea when or where Emma was born or died. I aslo don't know where James was born. I know they had at least one son not sure if there were any other children. The son was WILLIAM JAMES MARTIN born Nov. 2, 1848 Giles Co., TN and died Oct. 9, 1931 in Giles Co., TN. Grandpa married Martha J. Johnston Oct. 16, 1875 Giles Co., TN. I don't know when or where Martha was born or died. My Mother told me that she died when my grandfather was 2 or 3 years old and he didn't remember her. My grandfather was born in 1890. Grandpa(WM. JAMES) was also the sexton of the sexton of the cemetery where his father had been sexton. These are my "brickwalls". If any one can help I would appreciate it. Thanks, Cathy SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD!!! _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo – buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06

I am looking for information about JOHN MARTIN born Virginia and died 1825 Illinois. He was married to Sarah Isabell SCOTT. Our ancestor is his son William Harvey MARTIN who was born 1769 in Logan Co., KY and died 1855 Illinois. Any information abort John and/or Sarah would be greatly appreciated. Barbara

Laura, Johnson Martin is an unusual name. I have a couple of them in my Martin line; father and son. You mention that James went to Searcy County AR before 1840. I believe that I have found my Johnson Martin on the 1840 Searcy County census. In later census records for the children of Johnson IL is one of the places of birth listed for Johnson. Others are KY and VA. The names of some of his children are Joseph, Robert and Johnson. Can you tell me what information you have on the Johnson Martin that you mention. Can you tell me his approximate age? Do you have anything more on James B. Martin? Thanks, Clarice Martin In a message dated 1/29/2007 7:23:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, elhzm@comcast.net writes: Hi Stella YES- there were SEVERAL MARTIN's in/near/around Wayne County, IL that I have, so far, NOT been able to "connect". Here are some of the names of those unconnected MARTIN's- maybe we could find something?? JOHNSON MARTIN NATHAN MARTIN (died near Wayne Co, IL) JOSEPH MARTIN (died in Wayne Co, IL in 1821) OBADIAH MARTIN JACOB MARTIN JOHN MARTIN JAMES B. MARTIN )I know he went to AR before 1840- probably Searcy Co, AR) RAWLEY MARTIN ROBERT MARTIN (married NANCY HEADY in mid-1820's in White Co, IL) My Dad's DNA test came back with a DNA match to Central AL MARTIN's- but I am unaware of ANY of my MARTIN clan who went to AL....so it MUST have been ABRAHAM's siblings/parents!!! I suspect ABRAHAM may have "struck out on his own" and went West; while his parents/siblings may have "gone South"- but no prrof!!!!!!!! I THOUGHT that JAMES B. MARTIN was most probably ABRAHAM's Father; but DNA did NOT support that theory...............SO..............either: A) he was adopted; or B) he was from a TOTALLY different MARTIN clan; or C) aliens "dropped him off" in IL.................; or D) he went "North"; while the rest went "South"; or E) he THOUGHT JAMES B. MARTIN was his Father- but he wasn't!!!!!!!!!!! VERY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laura elhzm@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Martin1778@webtv.net> To: <elhzm@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Central Al Martins > My Alabama Martins camre into Shelby Co (Central Al )by 1840...so your > Abraham may be brother to my Jacob Martin born about 1788 in SC He and > his wife who was supposed to be Peggy Sapp had children in SC at the > same time as yours does. So...on census is there a Jacob anywhere close > to your Abraham in SC? Mine came to Al and yours to IL? Of course the > Edgefield Martins also came to Central Al...I haven't yet commected to > them... Anywherre for free land...there was a great movement to IL My > fathers side all went there.Stella >

Janet, You wrote: Rev. William Martin brought 3 shiploads of Presbyterians into South Carolina What year did they arrive, and from what port? Also, yousaid the ship manifest was on line, do you have a web address for that? Thanks! Maggie

Thanks Ed, The best advice I've had all day. I do believe my Martins were once Martines. I've been perusing a lot of various Huguenot History and found one Huguenot John Martin, from Ireland to NJ who had sons, Robert and Peter. They all migrated to the wilds of Northumberland Pa abt 1775. Peter's life is better documented than Robert's, since he was captured at the battle of Brandywine in 1777 and died in prison in Delaware and was married with 3 children. Robert continued trading with Indians, keeping the first "hotel" at the fork of the Susquehqnna river in Northumberland, PA until about 1799 when he disappears from Bell's History of Northumberland PA . Peter's oldest son, born in 1775, was named Robert Campbell Martin, and I believe he was born in Ireland shortly before John and his sons Peter and Robert left. Peter's wife, Elizabeth Campbell died in Philadelphia in 1803. Peter's 2 younger children, Mary and Peter Boyd, ended up in NC. I can find no records for Robert Campbell . I think Peter's son, Robert Campbell Martin is the same Robert Martin who shows up in Saratoga co, NY before 1810, and married Christianna Eighme; this Robert fought in 1812, was injured and died at age 44 in Saratoga co, NY leaving 7 children. But none of Robert's recorded children are named John. My John Martin said he was in Saratoga NY before 1810. He would have been 7-8 years old. I think he came from Sussex county, NJ with his uncle, Robert Campbell Martin and was likely named after his greatgrandfather John, the Irish immigrant. But who was his father? Another clue, is that my greatgrandfather, Warren Martin, the son of John, moved from upstate NY and settled on the West fork of the Susquhanna River in what had become Lycoming conty, PA . Any suggestions? Trudy hagerdonngenealogy@earthlink.net wrote: Trudy I probably should have said that French Huguenots when they fled France settled in the United Kingdom, not just England. Also we are talking about over a period of time lasting 150 years, by which time some French families had anglised their names to fit in with English society. They were encouraged just as were Protestants from Scotland to settle in Ireland particularily the north of the island to increase the Protestant percentage of the population and they were encouraged to emigrate to the colonies. If you are able to trace your ancestor back to Ireland, you might find that his ancestors lived for some time in England before arriving from France. Ed Hagerty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have ancestors who fled MA to MS and were some of the first settlers into Jefferson Co and other counties...they were presbyterian, most from Scotland...now whether they had gathered "under the banner"of presbyterianism, I don't know but the first churches they built were that.And the first families to the west central area of Alabama, before it was a state, (still Ms territory, then the AL territory) were shown to stick to the Primitive Baptist religion...some of that group went on into Ms to be Presbyterian. Stella

Trudy I probably should have said that French Huguenots when they fled France settled in the United Kingdom, not just England. Also we are talking about over a period of time lasting 150 years, by which time some French families had anglised their names to fit in with English society. They were encouraged just as were Protestants from Scotland to settle in Ireland particularily the north of the island to increase the Protestant percentage of the population and they were encouraged to emigrate to the colonies. If you are able to trace your ancestor back to Ireland, you might find that his ancestors lived for some time in England before arriving from France. Ed Hagerty

I have found ancestors from Hemmingford Township, Quebec that were Presbyterian. It seems like this area was a base for them. This particular line was English, but given the times, it's quite possible that the people there were of various nationalities, gathered under the banner of Presbyterianism. The area, like Vermont, was settled before the Northern Tier of New York State, which really wasn't settled to any degree until a few years before the 19th century. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <monkey@getgoin.net> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] How abt. Huguenot Martins? > Rev. William Martin brought 3 shiploads of Presbyterians into South > Carolina > > William Martin Ship list is on line > Janet Ariciu > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Joyce G. Reece > Date: 01/31/07 18:19:49 > To: martin@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] How abt. Huguenot Martins? > > In order to learn the situation between the Martin's and the Huguenots you > are going to have to study the history of the Huguenots and the form of > religion that got them into trouble. > > Rev. William Martin brought 3 shiploads of Presbyterians into South > Carolina > and started a movement for Freedom of Religion in the Colonies that cost > the > British the Revolutionary War. > > That war in South Carolina really was about freedom of Religion....not tea > or taxes. A succession of queens and kings (Mad King George) wished for > the > Church of England's or Angelicans to be the only religion in Britian. The > throne betrayed the Presbyterians who supported her in England and > Ireland. > They eventually offered the Presbyterians (all over 16 yrs) sections of > land > in the colonies if they would just leave, which many of them did. > > It didn't take long for the Angelicans to move into the SC inlands to once > again persecute the Presbyterians who'd just about had all they could > stand > of the Angelicans. At one point at a meeting house an Angelican minister > was preaching his sermon when the local presbyterians took a bunch of > their > hunting hounds into the meeting house to raise such a ruckus the Angelican > had to stop his speech. He later wrote that it would have done him no > good > to try to continue since the justices in the area were also Presbyterians. > It's all documented. > > Later during the War of the Revolution the southern front came into play > later in the War. It has been written that the hit and run tactics of the > Carolinian's did more to advance the cause of freedom in 6 months than > General Washington had done in three years. > > Tarleton and Cornwallis sure didn't know how to handle the ambush tactics > of > those hardy southern men. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TRUDY C LIMBER" <trulim@sbcglobal.net> > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] How abt. Huguenot Martins? > > >> Not even a familiar dit ! Not a single clue in any of these wonderful >> possibilities ! >> >> My John Martin, born abt. 1801, told the 1860 census-taker that he was >> born in Sussex co. NJ,and his father was from Ireland' John was in >> Northumberland, Saratoga co, NY by the age of 10 and lived there until he >> died and was buried at Brownsville Cemetery in 1884. >> John was a Methodist and likely a Huguenot. I'd sure like to find some >> parents for him. >> >> trulim >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: >> 1/31/2007 >> 3:16 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > 11:30 PM > > . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Rev. William Martin brought 3 shiploads of Presbyterians into South Carolina William Martin Ship list is on line Janet Ariciu -------Original Message------- From: Joyce G. Reece Date: 01/31/07 18:19:49 To: martin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN] How abt. Huguenot Martins? In order to learn the situation between the Martin's and the Huguenots you are going to have to study the history of the Huguenots and the form of religion that got them into trouble. Rev. William Martin brought 3 shiploads of Presbyterians into South Carolina and started a movement for Freedom of Religion in the Colonies that cost the British the Revolutionary War. That war in South Carolina really was about freedom of Religion....not tea or taxes. A succession of queens and kings (Mad King George) wished for the Church of England's or Angelicans to be the only religion in Britian. The throne betrayed the Presbyterians who supported her in England and Ireland. They eventually offered the Presbyterians (all over 16 yrs) sections of land in the colonies if they would just leave, which many of them did. It didn't take long for the Angelicans to move into the SC inlands to once again persecute the Presbyterians who'd just about had all they could stand of the Angelicans. At one point at a meeting house an Angelican minister was preaching his sermon when the local presbyterians took a bunch of their hunting hounds into the meeting house to raise such a ruckus the Angelican had to stop his speech. He later wrote that it would have done him no good to try to continue since the justices in the area were also Presbyterians. It's all documented. Later during the War of the Revolution the southern front came into play later in the War. It has been written that the hit and run tactics of the Carolinian's did more to advance the cause of freedom in 6 months than General Washington had done in three years. Tarleton and Cornwallis sure didn't know how to handle the ambush tactics of those hardy southern men. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "TRUDY C LIMBER" <trulim@sbcglobal.net> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] How abt. Huguenot Martins? > Not even a familiar dit ! Not a single clue in any of these wonderful > possibilities ! > > My John Martin, born abt. 1801, told the 1860 census-taker that he was > born in Sussex co. NJ,and his father was from Ireland' John was in > Northumberland, Saratoga co, NY by the age of 10 and lived there until he > died and was buried at Brownsville Cemetery in 1884. > John was a Methodist and likely a Huguenot. I'd sure like to find some > parents for him. > > trulim > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 1/31/2007 > 3:16 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 11:30 PM .