Hey Brenda, Thanks so much for the information. It gives me Anne's other children's names as well as a brother for her. By chance, do you know Albert Lowe's age in the 1880 Johnson co. census? I found another reference that may fit if he is b. about 1851. I appreciate being a part of this group and the generous help that is available from others. Thanks again! Cathy Lightfoot Virginia Beach Brenda Hawkins <bfhawkins@earthlink.net> wrote: Cathy, In 1850 Johnson Co., TN, there are Joseph and Ann Martin (indexed as Marter), ages 29 and 21, with Joseph born in England and Ann in TN. They have no children yet. Nearby is the family of David D. Stout, age 57, born in TN. In 1860 Johnson Co., TN, Ann Martin, age 30, is listed alone with her children - no husband in the home. Children are Mary E. - 7, John L. - 6, Sarah E. - 3, and Caroline - 1. In 1870 Johnson Co., TN, Ann has apparently remarried to the David D. Stout mentioned above. She is age 40, and he is age 79. Martin children are listed with her as Mary - 17, Emily - 13, and Caroline - 11. Also listed as Martins in the household are Daniel C. H. - 8, and Eliza, age 2, and are listed in order with the other 3 Martin children. If they really are Martins and children of Ann, then I have no idea where the father was at this time, however, Eliza is listed as a Stout in 1880. In 1880 Johnson Co., TN, Anna (51) and David Stout (89) are still alive and together. In the home are Eliza Stout, age 12, Abraham Stout, age 9, Robert Martin, age 18 (listed as stepson), Caroline Martin, age 21 (listed as stepdaughter), Mary E. Martin, age 3, (listed as step granddaughter), then David Stout, age 23 with his wife and child - Martha and Alex. Several homes away, John Martin, age 25, is listed as a nephew in the home of Albert Lowe. I have no idea who Robert Martin might be. Since John is listed separately, they are probably not the same person. I checked further on Robert in 1900 and 1910. In 1900 he is in Johnson Co., with wife Amanda. In 1910, they are in Sullivan Co., TN (listed as Robert H.) and reported to both be married for the first time, so he was not the husband of Caroline. Still in Sullivan Co., TN in 1920 with wife Sarah A. - probably Sarah Amanda. It appears that Joseph Martin died very early in Anna's marriage. It is probable that whoever provided the information about Ann's father at the time of her death simply did not remember his name since he had been dead since about 1858-59, or it could be that his full name was Joseph Robert Martin, or Robert Joseph Martin. There are several possibilities. In 1850 and 1860, there are no other Martins in Johnson Co., TN. In 1850, Joseph is the only Martin in all of Tennesee who was born in England. I find no hint of his family or siblings. Hope this helps a little. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: martin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:martin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Lightfoot Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:43 AM To: martin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin/Lowe/Harrison TN I would like to see if anyone has information about my GGGrandmother, Mary Ellen Martin b. Dec. 17, 1853 and d. Feb. 23, 1932 in Sullivan co. TN. She is the daughter of Robert or Joseph Martin and Anne Lowe. Mary Ellen's death cert. lists Robert as her Father, although Johnson co. marriage records have Joseph Martin and Anne Lowe's marriage date as July 21, 1849. Mary Ellen married William Harvey Harrison on November 4, 1871. They lived in Campbell co. TN for over 30 years and moved to Bristol around 1914 to live near their children, Erby and Ollie. This information came from Edith Wilson Hutton's book, "John Ford and his Campbell co. Tn Descendants". I would be so thankful to find out more information about this Martin line. Cathy Lightfoot ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers.
Jerry, where in Alabama were your Martin born? Barbara Jerry Lee <jerry.lee@techbizpartners.com> wrote: I thought I would re-list my Martins since I did not get any hits last time. My line is.... John Martin b. 1813 in AL James David "Jeff" Martin b. in AL James Bee Martin b. 1864 in AL, died in Collin Co, TX Prudie Augusta Martin b. 1903 in Collin Co, TX and died in Collin Co. Thanks Jerry Lee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Cathy, In 1850 Johnson Co., TN, there are Joseph and Ann Martin (indexed as Marter), ages 29 and 21, with Joseph born in England and Ann in TN. They have no children yet. Nearby is the family of David D. Stout, age 57, born in TN. In 1860 Johnson Co., TN, Ann Martin, age 30, is listed alone with her children - no husband in the home. Children are Mary E. - 7, John L. - 6, Sarah E. - 3, and Caroline - 1. In 1870 Johnson Co., TN, Ann has apparently remarried to the David D. Stout mentioned above. She is age 40, and he is age 79. Martin children are listed with her as Mary - 17, Emily - 13, and Caroline - 11. Also listed as Martins in the household are Daniel C. H. - 8, and Eliza, age 2, and are listed in order with the other 3 Martin children. If they really are Martins and children of Ann, then I have no idea where the father was at this time, however, Eliza is listed as a Stout in 1880. In 1880 Johnson Co., TN, Anna (51) and David Stout (89) are still alive and together. In the home are Eliza Stout, age 12, Abraham Stout, age 9, Robert Martin, age 18 (listed as stepson), Caroline Martin, age 21 (listed as stepdaughter), Mary E. Martin, age 3, (listed as step granddaughter), then David Stout, age 23 with his wife and child - Martha and Alex. Several homes away, John Martin, age 25, is listed as a nephew in the home of Albert Lowe. I have no idea who Robert Martin might be. Since John is listed separately, they are probably not the same person. I checked further on Robert in 1900 and 1910. In 1900 he is in Johnson Co., with wife Amanda. In 1910, they are in Sullivan Co., TN (listed as Robert H.) and reported to both be married for the first time, so he was not the husband of Caroline. Still in Sullivan Co., TN in 1920 with wife Sarah A. - probably Sarah Amanda. It appears that Joseph Martin died very early in Anna's marriage. It is probable that whoever provided the information about Ann's father at the time of her death simply did not remember his name since he had been dead since about 1858-59, or it could be that his full name was Joseph Robert Martin, or Robert Joseph Martin. There are several possibilities. In 1850 and 1860, there are no other Martins in Johnson Co., TN. In 1850, Joseph is the only Martin in all of Tennesee who was born in England. I find no hint of his family or siblings. Hope this helps a little. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: martin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:martin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Lightfoot Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:43 AM To: martin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin/Lowe/Harrison TN I would like to see if anyone has information about my GGGrandmother, Mary Ellen Martin b. Dec. 17, 1853 and d. Feb. 23, 1932 in Sullivan co. TN. She is the daughter of Robert or Joseph Martin and Anne Lowe. Mary Ellen's death cert. lists Robert as her Father, although Johnson co. marriage records have Joseph Martin and Anne Lowe's marriage date as July 21, 1849. Mary Ellen married William Harvey Harrison on November 4, 1871. They lived in Campbell co. TN for over 30 years and moved to Bristol around 1914 to live near their children, Erby and Ollie. This information came from Edith Wilson Hutton's book, "John Ford and his Campbell co. Tn Descendants". I would be so thankful to find out more information about this Martin line. Cathy Lightfoot
I thought I would re-list my Martins since I did not get any hits last time. My line is.... John Martin b. 1813 in AL James David "Jeff" Martin b. in AL James Bee Martin b. 1864 in AL, died in Collin Co, TX Prudie Augusta Martin b. 1903 in Collin Co, TX and died in Collin Co. Thanks Jerry Lee
I would like to see if anyone has information about my GGGrandmother, Mary Ellen Martin b. Dec. 17, 1853 and d. Feb. 23, 1932 in Sullivan co. TN. She is the daughter of Robert or Joseph Martin and Anne Lowe. Mary Ellen's death cert. lists Robert as her Father, although Johnson co. marriage records have Joseph Martin and Anne Lowe's marriage date as July 21, 1849. Mary Ellen married William Harvey Harrison on November 4, 1871. They lived in Campbell co. TN for over 30 years and moved to Bristol around 1914 to live near their children, Erby and Ollie. This information came from Edith Wilson Hutton's book, "John Ford and his Campbell co. Tn Descendants". I would be so thankful to find out more information about this Martin line. Cathy Lightfoot Jerry Lee <jerry.lee@techbizpartners.com> wrote: I thought I would re-list my Martins since I did not get any hits last time. My line is.... John Martin b. 1813 in AL James David "Jeff" Martin b. in AL James Bee Martin b. 1864 in AL, died in Collin Co, TX Prudie Augusta Martin b. 1903 in Collin Co, TX and died in Collin Co. Thanks Jerry Lee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!
Henry J. Martin was born in 8/1967 in California, his parents were Timothy & Catherine Martin, born in Ireland His brothers are Jeremiah Martin born Abt 1860 John Martin born Abt. 1862 Henry Martin born Abt. 1868 *Timothy Martin born Dec 1870 Sisters Katie Martin born Abt 1872 Mary Martin Born Abt. 1872 Nellie Martin Born Abt. 1876 Annie Martin born Abt. 1878 Census 1880, Virginia City, Storey Co. Nevada. Na film T9-0759 Page # 227C
Saw this on another list. Might be a good way to find those Martins who went/or came from Canada New Canada Genealogy site - http://www.canadaroots.com They have ancestry.ca free for 3 days no credit card needed. ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
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A lot of people have a signature like "Emotioncons" or if use a Free Antivirus or Anti Spam SW... they put an advertisement or disclaimer at the end of your messages...Could this be what you are seeing??? >From: "chuck class" <cthayer12@frontiernet.net> >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:44 -0500 > >any software expert could change that in the mainframe >Thank You >chuck >administrator of the class and lape >mailing lists >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Janet" <monkey@getgoin.net> >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:57 AM >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > > > > Jon, Attachment can not send on Rootsweb email site > > Janet > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Jon Martin > > Date: 02/10/07 23:06:25 > > To: martin@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > > > > This is an interesting situtation! > > > > I also have several emails from the list that Outlook Express shows a >paper > > clip next to the email. > > (This indicates an attachment) > > > > HOWEVER, there is no attachment that can be saved. > > > > The one thing that is common between the five emails is that they all > > contain something like the following: > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > ------ > > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with >people > > you know > > http://clk.atdmt > > com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live > > com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > It is possible that this is causing the false attachment indication >(paper > > clip) > > > > The 5 emails were from: > > > > Michael Martin > > Thelma Martin > > Cathy Wood > > LLoyd York (2) > > > > Peggy is this what you are seeing? > > > > Jon Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> > > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > > > > > > > Sometimes, if the Digest is too long, the ISP will make part of it an > > > attachment. It has nothing to do with Rootsweb.com, and I have to see >it > > > to know what > > > is going on. > > > Julia > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2007 9:33:24 PM Central Standard Time, > > > BEVCROWELL@aol.com writes: > > > I haven't received any emails with attachments from this list. > > > I don't understand how one person could. > > > Bev Martin Crowell > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2736 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.32/677 - Release Date: >2/8/2007 > > 9:04 PM > > > > . > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701
I had the same problem when I signed up for another list.It came thru as attachment(little paper clip),I emailed the list and they said it is the way outlook express is set up.I have a different computer now and it comes thru o.k.Don't know why it came thru on the other computer as attachment because all the other lists I am on came thru with no problem.
I belong to lists for surnames and for areas that ancesors lived in. I am researching the 16 surnames of both my husband's and my own ancestors (thru great grandparents). Some of them are common names and very busy like Martin, some of the areas like Chicago are very busy. Consequently, I do not open many of the emails, but instead just delete. I decide by the subject line. I want to thank you all for putting the subject line that tells what the subject "actually" is. This evening I had over 150 emails for the day. I was immeadiately able to just delete almost 20 of them that were letters to the administrator or about attachments and icons on the Martin list. On the other hand, another list that I am on has the habit of not changing the subject line when they change the subject. It is very frustrating to have to open and scan each email for the subject. Not to mention time consuming. The Martins may have a lot of non-research emails, but atleast you let people know, so that they can decide whether to spend time on that subject or not. Karen Moore Kerr ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
For Jan Lowe and Barb Samuels......... Look at the message below mine. Could this son, the Thomas Martin Jr. Son of Thomas Sr and Elizabeth Cook, be the Thomas Martin that shows up in Logan Kentucky in 1813 with our John Martin Sr (Old John) and John Martin Jr. If you remember there was an Andrew in Logan Co in 1806. Could Elizabeth Cook Martin have named one of her sons Andrew Martin after her father Andrew Cook? Thomas is also in Logan county in 1809 owning the 170 acres on the Muddy left from the estate of Mary Lewis. Thomas shows up again in 1813 with John James and Samuel. Ok, just for grins, how about this for something to think about? Daniel from Scotland to William Sr. died in New Kent Jan 30 1709 married to Elizabeth Cook to Thomas #1 Thomas Sr. born 1740-1743 died in Campbell County 1833 Va married to Elizabeth, with brothers John and David to Thomas Jr married to Elizabeth Lyon Could this John be old John with a brother Thomas thst shows up in 1809 in Logan county? This John (Old John) had a son named William, James and Samuel, as well as my ancestor Lewis. TOTAL FANTASY OF COURSE BUT THE NAMES ARE SUCH A CLOSE FIT TO OURS, JOHN, JAMES, SAMUEL, AND THOMAS AND ANDREW. DNA MIGHT REALLY HELP US HERE AND SHE SAYS SHE HAS A DNA MATCH ON FILE. The children of Thomas Jr and Elizabeth Mary m. James Martin (son of robert Martin) Thomas Jr., mar. Elizabeth Lyon, Samuel mar Sarah Cardwell Rachel mar Jacob Gaulding James mar. Judith Moore William mar Hanna Pugh Could these be nieces and nephews to our JOHN MARTIN married to ISABELLA SCOTT MARTIN? If Thomas was his brother? Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:28:51 EST From: Gmbrooks943@aol.com Subject: [MARTIN] Thomas Martin To: Martin-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d38.113eb0e.32f03193@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Still looking for parents of my Thomas Martin, Sr. b 1740 - 1743 in Va. He died 1833 in Campbell Co, VA. married Elizabeth Cook d/o of Andrew Cook & Mary. Believe his brothers were John Martin b Bedford Co VA and David Martin b 1740 - d 1807 Campbell Co. VA. Children of Thomas Sr and Elizabeth were: Mary mar. James Martin (son of Robert Jr.), Thomas Jr., mar. Elizabeth Lyon, Samuel mar Sarah Cardwell, Rachel mar Jacob Gaulding, James mar. Judith Moore, William mar Hanna Pugh. I descend thru James who came to KY. Thomas Sr. father may have been named Thomas -- & his father a William They were in New Kent Co., VA. Does anyone have info on the William Martin who died 30 Jan 1709 St Peters Parish, New Kent Co?. Have been told that William's father was Daniel from Scotland. There is a DNA from this line ---Test 18289. Gladys Martin Brooks
Laura and Other Martin Listers working on these Martins: If any of you have been looking at this group of Martins I would appreciate it if you could read the following information and provide input or knowledge to determine the relationships or disprove any connection so that we can narrow the scope to those who are actually related. I have been looking at this group of Martins for the past week. The names of the Martins who were in Wayne Co. IL in 1830 and not in 1840 and the names of Martins in Searcy Co., AR in 1840 and not there in 1830 are: James B. Martin The date of birth of the James B. Martin on the 1840 Searcy Co, AR Census places is birth at 1770 - 1780. The James B. in 1830 Wayne Co., IL was born 1780 - 1790. This could be just a difference in the timing of the census, but what happened to James' family? The James B. 1830, Wayne, IL , had 2 females and 4 younger males living in the household. In 1840 Searcy Co., AR only one female who is the correct age to be on the previous census and the female of a wife's age is gone, but we have several very young children. It looks like a different family. A daughter and her family maybe??? I also find a James B. Martin born in VA about 1778 living with a young woman with a of young children in Izard Co., AR in 1850. I suppose it is a possibility that this is the same James B. Martin. Johnson Martin The Johnson living in Wayne Co., IL is listed with a young family, but with two females of a similar age. It may be possible that these were siblings of Johnson or his wife rather than his children because they do not show up in Searcy Co., AR. In fact the wife listed in 1840 is younger than either of the females listed on the 1830 Wayne, Co., IL census. It is also possible that these are two separate Johnson men. The Johnson Martin of Searcy Co., IL matches my Johnson who is in Scott Co., AR in 1850. His wife was a Reynolds and there is a Reynolds in Searcy Co., IL near Johnson. Owen Martin The Owen in Searcy Co. AR in 1840 does not appear to be the same Owen who is on the 1830 Census in Wayne Co., IL but looks like the Owen who was on the 1820 Census in Wayne Co., IL possibly the father of the Owen who is on the 1830 Wayne Co., IL Census) There is a John Martin living near the Owen Martin in 1840 Searcy Co., AR who may be his son. I I also see an Owen living with a young family and a John (born in IL) next door on the 1850 census of Hot Springs, AR which could possibly be these same Martins. Also on the same page is a Joseph Martin. With all the items that do not agree, I can't help but think these are the same Martins especially since looking for these people in the years 1820, 1830, 1840, and 1850 I have not been able to locate them in other areas of the country. Laura, If your Abraham is the one listed in Wayne Co., IL in 1840, I have a problem with you listing him as the son of or ever living with James B. Martin (assuming that the James B. Martin in Wayne Co., and Searcy Co. are the same man). In 1820 there is one male in his household of an age to be Abraham or Johnson. In 1830 that person is no longer in the household of James B. Johnson is listed in Wayne, Co. Abraham is not listed separately, but appears in 1840 after James B and Johnson are gone. There is a Joseph Martin listed in 1820 who had a number of males listed in the household who could have been Abraham, but you still have the problem of the DNA testing if Joseph Martin is also the father or brother of Owen and James B. Martin which is still a question. I suppose Johnson could have been living in the household of Joseph and Abraham with James B. but he would have had be be elsewhere in 1830. If you look at the 1820 Census of Wayne Co, IL we find Joseph and a female both born before 1775 with 4 additional males and 4 additional females born between 1794 and 1820. All of the other Martins listed in that area were born betwen 1775 and 1804 and potentially children or younger siblings of Joseph. They are James B. Born between 1175-1794; Owen born between 1775-1794; Joseph born between 1794-1804; and Henry born between 1794-1804. I believe it would be helpful to form a Sub-Group of the Martins for this group to see if we can make sense of the connections unless, of course, there is someone out there who already has all the answers. :) Thanks to all for reading, Clarice Martin Wife of Jim>Jack>Jasper>Johnson>Johnson (they do like names that begin with "J") In a message dated 2/4/2007 4:20:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, elhzm@comcast.net writes: Hi! My info about JAMES B. MARTIN is that he came from Halifax Co, VA >TN>.Barren Co, KY>Wayne Co, IL>Searcy Co, AR. He died in Searcy Co, AR is my understanding. According to DNA testing which my Father participated in for us to try to trace our MARTIN line.................my ABRAHAM appears NOT to be genetically related to JAMES B. MARTIN of Halifax Co, VA. That seems strange to me; as they were in the SAME PLACE at the SAME TIME................but genetics fon't lie! SO- either my ABRAHAM was adopted; or THOUGHT he was JAMES B. MARTIN's bio son; or perhaps just RAISED by them: I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drives me NUTS!!!! At ANY rate.........if you look at the census of Wayne & White COunties, IL from 1820-1850; you will find all of those names and more in the MARTIN clan. Wish I could be more helpfl; but I can't even find a connection for my 3x GGrandfather ABRAHAM MARTIN after 9 years of searching!!!!!!!! Check out Wayne & White COunties, IL for LOTS more info regarding MARTINS- there were ALOT of them in/near/around there; that's for sure!!!!!! Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <JCMartin01@aol.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com>; <Martin1778@webtv.net> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Central Al Martins > > Laura, > Johnson Martin is an unusual name. I have a couple of them in my Martin > line; father and son. You mention that James went to Searcy County AR > before > 1840. I believe that I have found my Johnson Martin on the 1840 Searcy > County > census. In later census records for the children of Johnson IL is one of > the > places of birth listed for Johnson. Others are KY and VA. The names of > some of his children are Joseph, Robert and Johnson. > Can you tell me what information you have on the Johnson Martin that you > mention. Can you tell me his approximate age? Do you have anything more > on > James B. Martin? > Thanks, > Clarice Martin > > > In a message dated 1/29/2007 7:23:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > elhzm@comcast.net writes: > > Hi Stella > > YES- there were SEVERAL MARTIN's in/near/around Wayne County, IL that I > have, so far, NOT been able to "connect". > > Here are some of the names of those unconnected MARTIN's- maybe we could > find something?? > > JOHNSON MARTIN > NATHAN MARTIN (died near Wayne Co, IL) > JOSEPH MARTIN (died in Wayne Co, IL in 1821) > OBADIAH MARTIN > JACOB MARTIN > JOHN MARTIN > JAMES B. MARTIN )I know he went to AR before 1840- probably Searcy Co, > AR) > RAWLEY MARTIN > ROBERT MARTIN (married NANCY HEADY in mid-1820's in White Co, IL) > > My Dad's DNA test came back with a DNA match to Central AL MARTIN's- but > I > am unaware of ANY of my MARTIN clan who went to AL....so it MUST have > been > ABRAHAM's siblings/parents!!! > > I suspect ABRAHAM may have "struck out on his own" and went West; while > his > parents/siblings may have "gone South"- but no prrof!!!!!!!! > > I THOUGHT that JAMES B. MARTIN was most probably ABRAHAM's Father; but > DNA > did NOT support that theory...............SO..............either: > > A) he was adopted; or > > B) he was from a TOTALLY different MARTIN clan; or > > C) aliens "dropped him off" in IL.................; or > > D) he went "North"; while the rest went "South"; or > > E) he THOUGHT JAMES B. MARTIN was his Father- but he wasn't!!!!!!!!!!! > > VERY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Laura > elhzm@comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Martin1778@webtv.net> > To: <elhzm@comcast.net> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Central Al Martins > > >> My Alabama Martins camre into Shelby Co (Central Al )by 1840...so your >> Abraham may be brother to my Jacob Martin born about 1788 in SC He and >> his wife who was supposed to be Peggy Sapp had children in SC at the >> same time as yours does. So...on census is there a Jacob anywhere close >> to your Abraham in SC? Mine came to Al and yours to IL? Of course the >> Edgefield Martins also came to Central Al...I haven't yet commected to >> them... Anywherre for free land...there was a great movement to IL My >> fathers side all went there.Stella
In reply to Barbara Samuels and RedFanJan...... I beg your most humble pardon. I just hate it when I make a fool of myself on the internet. I have had a momentary brain glitch and confused my generations. I did indeed chase William Harvey forever, but not your William Harvey. There is another Williiam H. often listed as William Harvey that was born within 10 years of my William Hawkins. I thought he was my guy forever, and I guess it just imprinted on my brain and I jumped to the conclusion that he was the one you were talking about. My William b. 1823 Tenn d.7-2-1893, is not the son of John and Isabell but, their grandson, the son of Lewis Hiram Martin (Brother to your William Harvey) and Alice (Alys) Bentley Martin. That would make MY William Hawkins, YOUR William Harvey's nephew and namesake. I too would love to find John and (Sarah) Isabella Martin as I have been looking for them for over thirty years. Jan, I know you know these people, as they are part of your family line as well. You were just too gracious to say I was an idiot. Jan and I have corresponded several times over the years as she is descended from another of William Harvey''s brothers and from John and Isabella. You should check out her very detailed website at edenmartin.com if you have not done so already. I am usually extremely careful what I post, so I apologize. I just hate being the source of misinformation! I have been out of town, or I would have sent this correction sooner. I apologize to anyone I have confused. As to John and Isabell, I have been thinking a lot about this, as no one seems to be able to find them. I have the civil war letters witten between Lewis Hiram and his sons that mention a Bailey. I now know that this was John Smith Bailey b. 1776 Pendelton District South Carolina d after 1856 or one of his sons. He was married to Alice (Alys) Bentley Martin's sister Mary. I have seen other posts about Bailey Martin but cannot seem to tie them together. I keep thinking that if we follow the collateral lines, Bailey, Scott, Bentley, and Montgomery( Lewis's son Phillip married Mary Montgomery, but the Montgomerys are tied to the Martins from the 1790's on down) we might find a clue. Alice(Alys)'s father was Jeremiah F. Bentley b. 1759 Amelia Co. Va d.5/31/1841 Wilkes Co. Georgia Buried at West Point Lawrenceberg Tn He lived in: Amelia Co VA 1785 Brunwick Co VA 1787 Union Co SC 1800-1807 Williamson Co Tn 1807-1818 Giles Co 1818 also Lawrence Co Tn1820-1842 Lawrence Co Tn 1821 Will Giles County Tn 1835 Revolutionary War Service Pension File 539192 He was the son of Samuel Bentley b.12/30/1719 North Fulham Parish Richmond Virginia d. 1793 Nottoway Co VA and Mary B.1720 d.?Lunenberg VA. Second marriage to Elizabeth VaughnB. 1740 VA d.1787 VA Samuel was the son of Daniel Bentley Jr b.1690 Raleigh Parrish Amelia Co Va d.1722 North Fulham County VA and Ann Bentley Daniel Bentley was the son of Daniel Bentley Sr. b. 1660 and Elizabeth Johnson John Martin was also a revolutionary soldier. In 1790 and 1792 he is listed as 'tithable' in the Kentucky Militia of Nelson County Kentucky. On the Nelson County tax rolls he is listed with one white male over 21 and one white male between 16-21, 2 horses, 9 cattle, no land. He is also there in 1793. The records are missing in 1794 and he is gone after that. He shows up again in 1797 near Washington Co. Ky(created from Nelson county in 1782). So very likely the same area or close. He is living near the Neeleys and Montgomerys at this time. A John Martin appears on the Logan County census in 1810. He appears on Baptist Church records 1809-1816 in Logan Kentucky. He is granted the right to perform marriages in 12/1805 County order book no 3 p.289. He organized Providence Baptist Church in Warren Co in 9/1804. Warren Co was created from Logan Co in 1796. This church was also known as Knob Creek church located 7 miles west of Rawling Green it was part of the "Great Revival" of 1799 Muddy River Church. It is mentioned in my civil war letters as the church the family attended. John Martin received land in payment for his revolutionary war service. He obtained a commissioners's certificate #2781 for a land grant on the Sinking Branch of the Muddy River including his improvements in October 5, 1798. This land was purchased pursuant to legislation that opened up the territory south of the Green River in Kentucky, providing that the applicants had a family and would settle on the land for at least a year before they were granted possession of the land. This places him in Kentucky by at least October of 1797. His daughter Jane married Charles Neeley there in September 1797. The land was surveyed in November of 1798.The grant was finally issued 12/2/1808. The land was sold early in1809. In two pieces, 170 acres to Thomas Martin or Morton and 29 acres to Gerald Hopkins.4-15-1809. John Martin is listed on the tax roles in Logan County (Formerly Lincoln Co ) Ky 1799-1817. Records are missing for 1818. He is gone by 1819. The fact that he sold this land to Thomas Martin (Morton) and he has no son named Thomas, makes me wonder if Thomas was his brother? I have seen Isabella Scott b. 1755-1756 listed as the daughter of Joseph (James) Scott and Anne (Nancy ) Mayo but cannot confirm that at all. Maybe working through the Scott line we could find something. I have most often seen John listed as John M Martin b.3/7/1755 d.1825 Bridgeport Township Lawrence County Illinois. I believe his death date and place are correct, but do not know if birthdates or his middle initial are really correct or just wishful thinking for some other researchers. I do know that he was the first teacher in Sand Prarie Lawrence Co. Illinois Section 18 in 1814. He arrived in Illinois and later in 1817 and was a Primitive Bapstist Minister again. If you have any other contradicting information please let me know. I have tried to document what I can, but much of this info comes from other sources and may not be accurate. Has any of this branch been DNA tested? I descend from the female line, and there are no surviving male members in my family, so no one in my family can help. I think the DNA test might really help us out. Or, my next step is to try to obtain John Martin's pension application records from NARA. This is what I did for William Hawkins Martin. This is where I finally documented his middle name his heirs and his movements for several years. Barbara and Jan if you have any ideas or any more information let me know. Maybe together, we can find them. Once again I really apologize for the confusion. Thoroughly chastened and humbled. Maggie
It very well could be Gerald. Those are .html which rootsweb does not and cannot accept. Backgrounds and anything 'extra' in the emails will be .html Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >A lot of people have a signature like "Emotioncons" or if use a Free > Antivirus or Anti Spam SW... they put an advertisement or disclaimer at > the > end of your messages...Could this be what you are seeing??? > > >>From: "chuck class" <cthayer12@frontiernet.net> >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >>To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:44 -0500 >> >>any software expert could change that in the mainframe >>Thank You >>chuck >>administrator of the class and lape >>mailing lists >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Janet" <monkey@getgoin.net> >>To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:57 AM >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >> >> >> > Jon, Attachment can not send on Rootsweb email site >> > Janet >> > >> > -------Original Message------- >> > >> > From: Jon Martin >> > Date: 02/10/07 23:06:25 >> > To: martin@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >> > >> > This is an interesting situtation! >> > >> > I also have several emails from the list that Outlook Express shows a >>paper >> > clip next to the email. >> > (This indicates an attachment) >> > >> > HOWEVER, there is no attachment that can be saved. >> > >> > The one thing that is common between the five emails is that they all >> > contain something like the following: >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> > ------ >> > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with >>people >> > you know >> > http://clk.atdmt >> > com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live >> > com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 >> > ________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > It is possible that this is causing the false attachment indication >>(paper >> > clip) >> > >> > The 5 emails were from: >> > >> > Michael Martin >> > Thelma Martin >> > Cathy Wood >> > LLoyd York (2) >> > >> > Peggy is this what you are seeing? >> > >> > Jon Martin >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> >> > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:45 PM >> > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >> > >> > >> > > Sometimes, if the Digest is too long, the ISP will make part of it an >> > > attachment. It has nothing to do with Rootsweb.com, and I have to see >>it >> > > to know what >> > > is going on. >> > > Julia >> > > >> > > In a message dated 2/10/2007 9:33:24 PM Central Standard Time, >> > > BEVCROWELL@aol.com writes: >> > > I haven't received any emails with attachments from this list. >> > > I don't understand how one person could. >> > > Bev Martin Crowell >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >> > > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> > -- >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> > It has removed 2736 spam emails to date. >> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> > Try SPAMfighter for free now! >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.32/677 - Release Date: >>2/8/2007 >> > 9:04 PM >> > >> > . >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your > Live.com page. > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.35/680 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 > 9:15 PM > >
I haven't sent anything with an attachment Thanks, Cathy SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD!!! >From: "Peggy Chastain Craft" <pccraft@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: Peggy Chastain Craft <pccraft@bellsouth.net>, martin@rootsweb.com >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:34:42 -0500 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Martin" <jon@jmartinfamily.com> >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:50 PM >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > > > > > > The 5 emails were from: > > > > Michael Martin > > Thelma Martin > > Cathy Wood > > LLoyd York (2) > > > > Peggy is this what you are seeing? > > > > Jon Martin > > >These were the e-mails. However, I did not try to open any of the >attachments. I did not know of they contained a virus. > >Peggy Chastain Craft > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/
any software expert could change that in the mainframe Thank You chuck administrator of the class and lape mailing lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <monkey@getgoin.net> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > Jon, Attachment can not send on Rootsweb email site > Janet > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Jon Martin > Date: 02/10/07 23:06:25 > To: martin@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > > This is an interesting situtation! > > I also have several emails from the list that Outlook Express shows a paper > clip next to the email. > (This indicates an attachment) > > HOWEVER, there is no attachment that can be saved. > > The one thing that is common between the five emails is that they all > contain something like the following: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ------ > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with people > you know > http://clk.atdmt > com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live > com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 > ________________________________________________________________ > > It is possible that this is causing the false attachment indication (paper > clip) > > The 5 emails were from: > > Michael Martin > Thelma Martin > Cathy Wood > LLoyd York (2) > > Peggy is this what you are seeing? > > Jon Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR > > > > Sometimes, if the Digest is too long, the ISP will make part of it an > > attachment. It has nothing to do with Rootsweb.com, and I have to see it > > to know what > > is going on. > > Julia > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2007 9:33:24 PM Central Standard Time, > > BEVCROWELL@aol.com writes: > > I haven't received any emails with attachments from this list. > > I don't understand how one person could. > > Bev Martin Crowell > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 2736 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.32/677 - Release Date: 2/8/2007 > 9:04 PM > > . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Just a few more thoughts about John and Isabella. The statement I made earlier about John aquiring his land as part of his revolutionary service came from another researcher and I do not want to represent it as absolute fact. In fact I think there is very strong evidence that the land was aquired as part of the settlement of an estate of a relative or friend. The land was identified as being part of "the estate of Mary Lewis" and was broken up and sold to several people after her death, Including a Samuel La???, John G Lewis and another FW or RW Lewis I believe. A GB Starling and a William Starling with his mother. Now in light of the fact that John Martin had a son named LEWIS Martin. I wonder if Mary Lewis was a relative. Could some research of this Mary Lewis lead us somewhere? What do you think? Maggie
Can we STOP NOW with the "attachment mystery" emails, please? Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: martin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:martin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce G. Reece Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:10 PM To: martin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR It very well could be Gerald. Those are .html which rootsweb does not and cannot accept. Backgrounds and anything 'extra' in the emails will be .html Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >A lot of people have a signature like "Emotioncons" or if use a Free > Antivirus or Anti Spam SW... they put an advertisement or disclaimer at > the > end of your messages...Could this be what you are seeing??? > > >>From: "chuck class" <cthayer12@frontiernet.net> >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >>To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:44 -0500 >> >>any software expert could change that in the mainframe >>Thank You >>chuck >>administrator of the class and lape >>mailing lists >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Janet" <monkey@getgoin.net> >>To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:57 AM >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >> >> >> > Jon, Attachment can not send on Rootsweb email site >> > Janet >> > >> > -------Original Message------- >> > >> > From: Jon Martin >> > Date: 02/10/07 23:06:25 >> > To: martin@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >> > >> > This is an interesting situtation! >> > >> > I also have several emails from the list that Outlook Express shows a >>paper >> > clip next to the email. >> > (This indicates an attachment) >> > >> > HOWEVER, there is no attachment that can be saved. >> > >> > The one thing that is common between the five emails is that they all >> > contain something like the following: >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> > ------ >> > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with >>people >> > you know >> > http://clk.atdmt >> > com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live >> > com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 >> > ________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > It is possible that this is causing the false attachment indication >>(paper >> > clip) >> > >> > The 5 emails were from: >> > >> > Michael Martin >> > Thelma Martin >> > Cathy Wood >> > LLoyd York (2) >> > >> > Peggy is this what you are seeing? >> > >> > Jon Martin >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> >> > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:45 PM >> > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] LIST ADMINISTRATOR >> > >> > >> > > Sometimes, if the Digest is too long, the ISP will make part of it an >> > > attachment. It has nothing to do with Rootsweb.com, and I have to see >>it >> > > to know what >> > > is going on. >> > > Julia >> > > >> > > In a message dated 2/10/2007 9:33:24 PM Central Standard Time, >> > > BEVCROWELL@aol.com writes: >> > > I haven't received any emails with attachments from this list. >> > > I don't understand how one person could. >> > > Bev Martin Crowell >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >> > > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> > -- >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> > It has removed 2736 spam emails to date. >> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> > Try SPAMfighter for free now! >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.32/677 - Release Date: >>2/8/2007 >> > 9:04 PM >> > >> > . >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your > Live.com page. > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.35/680 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 > 9:15 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There are a few different theories as to why the attachment icons are coming thru the rootsweb mail....as well as other lists. One person made a lot of sense when he stated that the sender of the original email had some type of .html coding in the email....any type....that did not and would not come thru the list but would have the icon showing. Yet another theory is that it could be any number of settings within the program of the receiver of the email Joyce Gaston Reece