Lilly, I found information that Jim Dave Martin and Lora Mae/May Musslewhite had seven children, all born in Cherokee County, Texas. If you will contact me, I will give you the particulars. I also have found some other information that might help. Janice Martin Houston, TX martindo@houston.rr.com -------Original Message------- From: Lilly Martin Date: 05/01/07 23:20:17 To: MARTIN@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARTIN] my Martin family in Texas My Martin family line begins with William M. Martin b. 1826 Rockingham Co NC, he married Mary M. Young b. 1825 Rockinghma Co NC, d/o Robert Young. They left NC to settle in Henderson Co TN near Lexington, TN. William M. Martin died there in 1870, and the widow and children then moved to Navarro Co TX in 1878. Below I have given specific information about my myself and my relatives in TEXAS. I am looking to contact with anyone related to, or having any information about these people. I would appreciate any help from anyone. I have researched this line 5 years and still have not found any living relatives to share my research with. > > #1. I am Lilly Martin, I will start with me as #1. > > #2. My Father was Billy Joe Martin b. 1925 Duncan, OK. I already know > everything about him, no mysteries there. But he was raised away from his > own father, so this caused him to know nothing about his own biological > Father, but now thru research I have uncovered all that. > > #3. Joe Alfred Martin b. 1899 Sunset, Montague Co TX. He took a job with > Lone Star Gas Co as a teenager and ended up working 43 years for them. He > lived in OK, but mainly most of his working career he lived in Vernon, > Wilbarger Co TX. His wife was Ora B. Gandy, and they never had children. > My father was his only child, born of a first marriage which was over > before my Dad was born. > I already know everything about this man, so I have no more questions, but > my problem is, since he left no other children, I can't find any cousins > to share research with. However, he had some siblings, and from these > siblings maybe I can find a living descendant?? > > #4. Joe Allen Martin b. 1857 Henderson Co TN. This man arrived with his > widowed Mother in Navarro Co TX in 1878. He grew up and married a local > girl named Nancy Elizabeth Doolen, d/o William Doolen, a pioneer settler > of Navarrro Co TX. > They moved to Sunset, Montague Co TX and raised a family. Last record I > have, is the 1930 census at Sunset, TX this man and his second wife, named > Nora Martin are still living. I don't know when he died, but I presume > not many years later in that area. > > Joe Allen Martin had several children: > 1. Joe Alfred Martin (my Grandfather, who I already described) > 2. Dan Lee Martin, he was a teacher in Bowie, TX and rose to school > superintendant. I have his obit, it lists one child only a Dan Lee > Martin, Jr. > It is concievable that this man still lives, but I would doubt it. > I do not know if he had children, but I would like to know. > > 3. William Jesse Martin b. Nov 3, 1894 Sunset, TX. This is a man who > might have been living in Houston, TX, according to an Obit. > I would love to know if this man left any children, or grandchildren? > By finding a living relative I might be able to share alot of data, and > push the research further back? > > 4. Jim Dave Martin b. 1905 d. 1967. This man married Lora M. Musselwhite. > I found a listing online for this man, but the researcher only knew about > the Musselwhite lady, and nothing about the Martin side. > His children were: > Jim Dave Martin Jr b. 1929 (m. Dillard) > Don Gayle Martin b. 1936 d. 1989 > > I found that there was a researcher named Shayne Garrett Forrest, who > lived in McKinney , TX, and also had lived in Blue Ridge, TX. This man > Shayne is supposed to me a decendant of Jim Dave Martin, probably thru a > daughter I would guess. The email address for Shayne is no good. > > If you ever find anything for these people, or a phone number or mailing > address for Shayne, let me know. This might be the connection I need. > > > Best regards, > LIlly Martin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Martin family line begins with William M. Martin b. 1826 Rockingham Co NC, he married Mary M. Young b. 1825 Rockinghma Co NC, d/o Robert Young. They left NC to settle in Henderson Co TN near Lexington, TN. William M. Martin died there in 1870, and the widow and children then moved to Navarro Co TX in 1878. Below I have given specific information about my myself and my relatives in TEXAS. I am looking to contact with anyone related to, or having any information about these people. I would appreciate any help from anyone. I have researched this line 5 years and still have not found any living relatives to share my research with. > > #1. I am Lilly Martin, I will start with me as #1. > > #2. My Father was Billy Joe Martin b. 1925 Duncan, OK. I already know > everything about him, no mysteries there. But he was raised away from his > own father, so this caused him to know nothing about his own biological > Father, but now thru research I have uncovered all that. > > #3. Joe Alfred Martin b. 1899 Sunset, Montague Co TX. He took a job with > Lone Star Gas Co as a teenager and ended up working 43 years for them. He > lived in OK, but mainly most of his working career he lived in Vernon, > Wilbarger Co TX. His wife was Ora B. Gandy, and they never had children. > My father was his only child, born of a first marriage which was over > before my Dad was born. > I already know everything about this man, so I have no more questions, but > my problem is, since he left no other children, I can't find any cousins > to share research with. However, he had some siblings, and from these > siblings maybe I can find a living descendant?? > > #4. Joe Allen Martin b. 1857 Henderson Co TN. This man arrived with his > widowed Mother in Navarro Co TX in 1878. He grew up and married a local > girl named Nancy Elizabeth Doolen, d/o William Doolen, a pioneer settler > of Navarrro Co TX. > They moved to Sunset, Montague Co TX and raised a family. Last record I > have, is the 1930 census at Sunset, TX this man and his second wife, named > Nora Martin are still living. I don't know when he died, but I presume > not many years later in that area. > > Joe Allen Martin had several children: > 1. Joe Alfred Martin (my Grandfather, who I already described) > 2. Dan Lee Martin, he was a teacher in Bowie, TX and rose to school > superintendant. I have his obit, it lists one child only a Dan Lee > Martin, Jr. > It is concievable that this man still lives, but I would doubt it. > I do not know if he had children, but I would like to know. > > 3. William Jesse Martin b. Nov 3, 1894 Sunset, TX. This is a man who > might have been living in Houston, TX, according to an Obit. > I would love to know if this man left any children, or grandchildren? > By finding a living relative I might be able to share alot of data, and > push the research further back? > > 4. Jim Dave Martin b. 1905 d. 1967. This man married Lora M. Musselwhite. > I found a listing online for this man, but the researcher only knew about > the Musselwhite lady, and nothing about the Martin side. > His children were: > Jim Dave Martin Jr b. 1929 (m. Dillard) > Don Gayle Martin b. 1936 d. 1989 > > I found that there was a researcher named Shayne Garrett Forrest, who > lived in McKinney , TX, and also had lived in Blue Ridge, TX. This man > Shayne is supposed to me a decendant of Jim Dave Martin, probably thru a > daughter I would guess. The email address for Shayne is no good. > > If you ever find anything for these people, or a phone number or mailing > address for Shayne, let me know. This might be the connection I need. > > > Best regards, > LIlly Martin

Hi Lillie, I see you did not furnish your personal email address so I will reply to the List and hope you read it. I too have Martins descendants in most of those Texas locations you mentioned plus Oklahoma but my Martins came out of Red Boiling Springs, TN in 1880, about. Wylie Martin and his wife Martha and their 12 kids moved from TN to Texas during the time from 1880 to 1890 to Hill County, Texas. You made a statement that may not be true; you think Shayne Garret Forrest is a man; I think he is a she. Shayne is still living near Blue Ridge, TX at S Forrest 14887 County Road 1100 Blue Ridge, TX 75424-3344 Phone: (972) 752-4478 and she/he is living with CARAWAY,JAMES ROBERT 14887 County Road 1100, Blue Ridge, TX 75424-3344 Texas Also, Shayne old email address was "shyhotmom1" at cs.com. That name indicates a woman. Perhaps, trying to send email messages to that name at gmail.com and hotmail.com and yahoo.com might yield some results. Carl Martin martinfamilytree@gmail.com On 5/1/07, Lilly Martin <nezars@aloola.sy> wrote: > > My Martin family line begins with William M. Martin b. 1826 Rockingham Co > NC, he married Mary M. Young b. 1825 Rockinghma Co NC, d/o Robert Young. > They left NC to settle in Henderson Co TN near Lexington, TN. William M. > Martin died there in 1870, and the widow and children then moved to > Navarro > Co TX in 1878. > Below I have given specific information about my myself and my relatives > in > TEXAS. I am looking to contact with anyone related to, or having any > information about these people. I would appreciate any help from > anyone. I > have researched this line 5 years and still have not found any living > relatives to share my research with. > > > > #1. I am Lilly Martin, I will start with me as #1. > > > > #2. My Father was Billy Joe Martin b. 1925 Duncan, OK. I already know > > everything about him, no mysteries there. But he was raised away from > his > > own father, so this caused him to know nothing about his own biological > > Father, but now thru research I have uncovered all that. > > > > #3. Joe Alfred Martin b. 1899 Sunset, Montague Co TX. He took a job > with > > Lone Star Gas Co as a teenager and ended up working 43 years for > them. He > > lived in OK, but mainly most of his working career he lived in Vernon, > > Wilbarger Co TX. His wife was Ora B. Gandy, and they never had > children. > > My father was his only child, born of a first marriage which was over > > before my Dad was born. > > I already know everything about this man, so I have no more questions, > but > > my problem is, since he left no other children, I can't find any cousins > > to share research with. However, he had some siblings, and from these > > siblings maybe I can find a living descendant?? > > > > #4. Joe Allen Martin b. 1857 Henderson Co TN. This man arrived with his > > widowed Mother in Navarro Co TX in 1878. He grew up and married a local > > girl named Nancy Elizabeth Doolen, d/o William Doolen, a pioneer settler > > > of Navarrro Co TX. > > They moved to Sunset, Montague Co TX and raised a family. Last record I > > have, is the 1930 census at Sunset, TX this man and his second wife, > named > > Nora Martin are still living. I don't know when he died, but I presume > > not many years later in that area. > > > > Joe Allen Martin had several children: > > 1. Joe Alfred Martin (my Grandfather, who I already described) > > 2. Dan Lee Martin, he was a teacher in Bowie, TX and rose to school > > superintendant. I have his obit, it lists one child only a Dan Lee > > Martin, Jr. > > It is concievable that this man still lives, but I would doubt it. > > I do not know if he had children, but I would like to know. > > > > 3. William Jesse Martin b. Nov 3, 1894 Sunset, TX. This is a man who > > might have been living in Houston, TX, according to an Obit. > > I would love to know if this man left any children, or grandchildren? > > By finding a living relative I might be able to share alot of data, and > > push the research further back? > > > > 4. Jim Dave Martin b. 1905 d. 1967. This man married Lora M. > Musselwhite. > > I found a listing online for this man, but the researcher only knew > about > > the Musselwhite lady, and nothing about the Martin side. > > His children were: > > Jim Dave Martin Jr b. 1929 (m. Dillard) > > Don Gayle Martin b. 1936 d. 1989 > > > > I found that there was a researcher named Shayne Garrett Forrest, who > > lived in McKinney , TX, and also had lived in Blue Ridge, TX. This man > > Shayne is supposed to me a decendant of Jim Dave Martin, probably thru a > > daughter I would guess. The email address for Shayne is no good. > > > > If you ever find anything for these people, or a phone number or mailing > > address for Shayne, let me know. This might be the connection I need. > > > > > > Best regards, > > LIlly Martin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I may have some info that could be of use?? I also knew of a teacher in Bexar Co. Texas named Musslewhite. It is an unusual name. But my--- she would be atleast in her 80s by now. I think that she did have daughters?? Also, I note that one of your Martins had the middlename of Gayle. So did one of my Martins who died about 1870 as a child. These Martins were in Louisiana and were married into my Wilson family in that time frame. The husband Issac Martin died before 1910 and most of the family moved to east Texas. This Issac Martin married Sarahann Lewis Wilson Hagewood. He was her 3rd and last husband. I have found them on La. census and they are in our Family Bible. Her first two husbands died. (One was in the Civil War) She had two children with her first husband, Ludson Wilson, none with Mr.Hagewood, and then the only child with Mr. Martin was Barbara Gayle Martin. This little girl died as a child. My great great great grandmother remained married to Issac Martin unil her death and had no more children. It is believed that Issac Martin raised the two Wilson step children. The handwritting on the La. census where I find them is difficult, but it almost looks as if it says that Issac was from Indiana. There were other Martins that lived close to them in Avoyelles Parish and in the Point Coupee Parish census. Later, by 1900, the family lived in western most La. and finally in east Texas. Only a little thing that might connect our Martins,----but you never know. Given names are sometimes handed down thru families. Karen Moore Kerr --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Thanks, Jon. I have done some of this but your suggestion is a good one and I will expand the search to the various places where they might have had contact. It is frustrating to not have census records after 1930. My assumption is that J. S. Martin died in California, but even that is merely an assumption without birthdate and place of birth information to help with the Social Security Death Index and California Death Index. Many thanks to the several who have already responded to my posting on this List. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Martin" <jon@jmartinfamily.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) > It was easy to find your dad in 1920 and 1930. I would assume that if > they > knew each other in the late teens early 20's that they might actually live > near each other. Next I would check in the close neighborhood around > where > your dad was living in both census's. > > Jon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Hunter" <billnflo@softcom.net> > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) > > >> Thanks, Jon. I have had contact with the churches. One in Colorado sent >> me >> two newspaper clippings but neither one had any hard data that could help >> in >> searching genealogical records. As a matter of fact, I have supplied >> several of the churches with photos and other newspaper clippings. The >> Nazarene churches back in those days were pioneer efforts and they didn't >> seem to take into consideration my current needs! I have contacted >> churches >> in Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah and California. Thanks so much for the >> reply. I hadn't expected one so soon. >> >> Bill Hunter >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jon Martin" <jon@jmartinfamily.com> >> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) >> >> >>>I suggest that you contact the Nazarene churches in the towns listed to >>>see >>> if they might have any records of JS and JR. Churches usually do keep >>> records for long periods of time. >>> >>> Jon Martin >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bill Hunter" <billnflo@softcom.net> >>> To: <MARTIN@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:28 PM >>> Subject: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) >>> >>> >>>> Help! I'm going bananas trying to find a J. S. MARTIN. I knew the man >>>> in >>>> the Bay Area, California in the 1950s-1960s. I believe his wife's name >>>> was Minnie and they may have had a daughter named Dollye. My father >>>> was >>>> a >>>> Nazarene evangelist and elder and I know for a fact that J. R. HUNTER >>>> and >>>> J. S. MARTIN had extended evangelistic meetings in Colorado in the >>>> period >>>> of 1917-1920, including such towns as Montrose, Delta, Canon City, and >>>> Colorado Springs. I have photos of J. S. MARTIN from that time and a >>>> newspaper clipping or two (one of which cited him incorrectly as B. S. >>>> MARTIN. I believe that while the MARTINS were living in the Bay Area, >>>> they attended the Berkeley Church of the Nazarene and were involved >>>> with >>>> my parents in the Bay Area Holiness Association. I have tried to >>>> obtain >>>> information from various Church of the Nazarene sources and the >>>> national >>>> denominational Archives in Kansas City, but with little success. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, I do not know what the initials J. S. stand for and I do >>>> not know where he was born. I know they lived for a time in Nebraska. >>>> All my efforts in checking census records have been unsuccessful. >>>> There >>>> are plenty of Martins in Nebraska in the 1900-1930 censuses, but I >>>> haven't >>>> been able to hook up a J. S. Martin with a wife named Minnie. Of >>>> course, >>>> Minnie may also be only a nickname. The daughter Dollye (again real >>>> name >>>> or nickname?) obviously was given because my mother's name was Dollye. >>>> My >>>> sense is that J. S. and Minnie Martin died in California, but without >>>> birthdates and place of birth I can't seem to pick them out of the >>>> California Death Index or Social Security Death Index. Believe me, I >>>> have >>>> tried everything. >>>> >>>> I do not know where my father and J. S. MARTIN may have become >>>> acquainted, >>>> though I suspect it had to be in either Nebraska or possibly Iowa. My >>>> father was born in New Market, Iowa in 1883 and my sense is that he and >>>> J. >>>> S. Martin were of an age. I have photos from Colorado that suggest >>>> that >>>> my father and J. S. MARTIN were called "The Sons of Thunder" in the >>>> advertising for their evangelistic meetings. J. S. MARTIN was the song >>>> leader and soloist of the HUNTER-MARTIN evangelistic team. >>>> >>>> Is there anyone out there who might have some clues that would help me >>>> locate J. S. and Minnie MARTIN? I am amxious to get their genealogical >>>> data as I am researching my father's life and ministry in order to put >>>> together a written memoir. Please forgive this too lengthyand probably >>>> confusing posting. I hope that someone out there may be able to help. >>>> Thanks. Tis is my first posting so hopefully I haven't violated any of >>>> the list's rules. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>> It has removed 3920 spam emails to date. >>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 3921 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

My Martins were never in Va. but instead in Indiana and La. I am looking for Wilsons in Henry Co. Va. but someone had Martins there. **Note Joseph in the applications list. I have no other information. I just copied this from the VaHenryCo. list that I subscribe to. Karen Moore Kerr Henry County Virginia Revolutionary War Pension Applications Index by Rena Worthen Alee, David Arnold, Elisha Burchel, Daniel Burruss, Michael Choice, Sims Choice, William Cochran, William Deshazo, William Dillen, Benjamin Franklin, Lewis Gilley, Richard Happer, William Hickey, James Johnston, James Jones, David Jones, Thomas Martin, Joseph McCraw, Francis Pace, Newsom Phillpott, Charles Price, John Redd, John Seay, Matthew Shumate, Samuel Smith, Henry Spencer, Moses Stratton, Benjamin Whitecotton, Axton http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/henrycopensionapplication.html ------------------------------- --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

It was easy to find your dad in 1920 and 1930. I would assume that if they knew each other in the late teens early 20's that they might actually live near each other. Next I would check in the close neighborhood around where your dad was living in both census's. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hunter" <billnflo@softcom.net> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) > Thanks, Jon. I have had contact with the churches. One in Colorado sent > me > two newspaper clippings but neither one had any hard data that could help > in > searching genealogical records. As a matter of fact, I have supplied > several of the churches with photos and other newspaper clippings. The > Nazarene churches back in those days were pioneer efforts and they didn't > seem to take into consideration my current needs! I have contacted > churches > in Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah and California. Thanks so much for the > reply. I hadn't expected one so soon. > > Bill Hunter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Martin" <jon@jmartinfamily.com> > To: <martin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) > > >>I suggest that you contact the Nazarene churches in the towns listed to >>see >> if they might have any records of JS and JR. Churches usually do keep >> records for long periods of time. >> >> Jon Martin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Hunter" <billnflo@softcom.net> >> To: <MARTIN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:28 PM >> Subject: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) >> >> >>> Help! I'm going bananas trying to find a J. S. MARTIN. I knew the man >>> in >>> the Bay Area, California in the 1950s-1960s. I believe his wife's name >>> was Minnie and they may have had a daughter named Dollye. My father was >>> a >>> Nazarene evangelist and elder and I know for a fact that J. R. HUNTER >>> and >>> J. S. MARTIN had extended evangelistic meetings in Colorado in the >>> period >>> of 1917-1920, including such towns as Montrose, Delta, Canon City, and >>> Colorado Springs. I have photos of J. S. MARTIN from that time and a >>> newspaper clipping or two (one of which cited him incorrectly as B. S. >>> MARTIN. I believe that while the MARTINS were living in the Bay Area, >>> they attended the Berkeley Church of the Nazarene and were involved with >>> my parents in the Bay Area Holiness Association. I have tried to >>> obtain >>> information from various Church of the Nazarene sources and the national >>> denominational Archives in Kansas City, but with little success. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I do not know what the initials J. S. stand for and I do >>> not know where he was born. I know they lived for a time in Nebraska. >>> All my efforts in checking census records have been unsuccessful. There >>> are plenty of Martins in Nebraska in the 1900-1930 censuses, but I >>> haven't >>> been able to hook up a J. S. Martin with a wife named Minnie. Of >>> course, >>> Minnie may also be only a nickname. The daughter Dollye (again real >>> name >>> or nickname?) obviously was given because my mother's name was Dollye. >>> My >>> sense is that J. S. and Minnie Martin died in California, but without >>> birthdates and place of birth I can't seem to pick them out of the >>> California Death Index or Social Security Death Index. Believe me, I >>> have >>> tried everything. >>> >>> I do not know where my father and J. S. MARTIN may have become >>> acquainted, >>> though I suspect it had to be in either Nebraska or possibly Iowa. My >>> father was born in New Market, Iowa in 1883 and my sense is that he and >>> J. >>> S. Martin were of an age. I have photos from Colorado that suggest that >>> my father and J. S. MARTIN were called "The Sons of Thunder" in the >>> advertising for their evangelistic meetings. J. S. MARTIN was the song >>> leader and soloist of the HUNTER-MARTIN evangelistic team. >>> >>> Is there anyone out there who might have some clues that would help me >>> locate J. S. and Minnie MARTIN? I am amxious to get their genealogical >>> data as I am researching my father's life and ministry in order to put >>> together a written memoir. Please forgive this too lengthyand probably >>> confusing posting. I hope that someone out there may be able to help. >>> Thanks. Tis is my first posting so hopefully I haven't violated any of >>> the list's rules. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 3920 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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You might, also find a marriage for a Dollye Martin in those areas. A lot of given names"Minnie" were Minnie Lee in my family...Maybe look `again in Death Index for a Minnie L Martin. also..there are tons of Jacob Martins. that name might make a connection..This is not much help...but Goodluck...Stella

Thanks, Jon. I have had contact with the churches. One in Colorado sent me two newspaper clippings but neither one had any hard data that could help in searching genealogical records. As a matter of fact, I have supplied several of the churches with photos and other newspaper clippings. The Nazarene churches back in those days were pioneer efforts and they didn't seem to take into consideration my current needs! I have contacted churches in Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah and California. Thanks so much for the reply. I hadn't expected one so soon. Bill Hunter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Martin" <jon@jmartinfamily.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) >I suggest that you contact the Nazarene churches in the towns listed to see > if they might have any records of JS and JR. Churches usually do keep > records for long periods of time. > > Jon Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Hunter" <billnflo@softcom.net> > To: <MARTIN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:28 PM > Subject: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) > > >> Help! I'm going bananas trying to find a J. S. MARTIN. I knew the man >> in >> the Bay Area, California in the 1950s-1960s. I believe his wife's name >> was Minnie and they may have had a daughter named Dollye. My father was >> a >> Nazarene evangelist and elder and I know for a fact that J. R. HUNTER and >> J. S. MARTIN had extended evangelistic meetings in Colorado in the period >> of 1917-1920, including such towns as Montrose, Delta, Canon City, and >> Colorado Springs. I have photos of J. S. MARTIN from that time and a >> newspaper clipping or two (one of which cited him incorrectly as B. S. >> MARTIN. I believe that while the MARTINS were living in the Bay Area, >> they attended the Berkeley Church of the Nazarene and were involved with >> my parents in the Bay Area Holiness Association. I have tried to obtain >> information from various Church of the Nazarene sources and the national >> denominational Archives in Kansas City, but with little success. >> >> Unfortunately, I do not know what the initials J. S. stand for and I do >> not know where he was born. I know they lived for a time in Nebraska. >> All my efforts in checking census records have been unsuccessful. There >> are plenty of Martins in Nebraska in the 1900-1930 censuses, but I >> haven't >> been able to hook up a J. S. Martin with a wife named Minnie. Of course, >> Minnie may also be only a nickname. The daughter Dollye (again real name >> or nickname?) obviously was given because my mother's name was Dollye. >> My >> sense is that J. S. and Minnie Martin died in California, but without >> birthdates and place of birth I can't seem to pick them out of the >> California Death Index or Social Security Death Index. Believe me, I >> have >> tried everything. >> >> I do not know where my father and J. S. MARTIN may have become >> acquainted, >> though I suspect it had to be in either Nebraska or possibly Iowa. My >> father was born in New Market, Iowa in 1883 and my sense is that he and >> J. >> S. Martin were of an age. I have photos from Colorado that suggest that >> my father and J. S. MARTIN were called "The Sons of Thunder" in the >> advertising for their evangelistic meetings. J. S. MARTIN was the song >> leader and soloist of the HUNTER-MARTIN evangelistic team. >> >> Is there anyone out there who might have some clues that would help me >> locate J. S. and Minnie MARTIN? I am amxious to get their genealogical >> data as I am researching my father's life and ministry in order to put >> together a written memoir. Please forgive this too lengthyand probably >> confusing posting. I hope that someone out there may be able to help. >> Thanks. Tis is my first posting so hopefully I haven't violated any of >> the list's rules. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 3920 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I suggest that you contact the Nazarene churches in the towns listed to see if they might have any records of JS and JR. Churches usually do keep records for long periods of time. Jon Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hunter" <billnflo@softcom.net> To: <MARTIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: [MARTIN] MARTIN, J. S. (Nebraska, Colorado, California?) > Help! I'm going bananas trying to find a J. S. MARTIN. I knew the man in > the Bay Area, California in the 1950s-1960s. I believe his wife's name > was Minnie and they may have had a daughter named Dollye. My father was a > Nazarene evangelist and elder and I know for a fact that J. R. HUNTER and > J. S. MARTIN had extended evangelistic meetings in Colorado in the period > of 1917-1920, including such towns as Montrose, Delta, Canon City, and > Colorado Springs. I have photos of J. S. MARTIN from that time and a > newspaper clipping or two (one of which cited him incorrectly as B. S. > MARTIN. I believe that while the MARTINS were living in the Bay Area, > they attended the Berkeley Church of the Nazarene and were involved with > my parents in the Bay Area Holiness Association. I have tried to obtain > information from various Church of the Nazarene sources and the national > denominational Archives in Kansas City, but with little success. > > Unfortunately, I do not know what the initials J. S. stand for and I do > not know where he was born. I know they lived for a time in Nebraska. > All my efforts in checking census records have been unsuccessful. There > are plenty of Martins in Nebraska in the 1900-1930 censuses, but I haven't > been able to hook up a J. S. Martin with a wife named Minnie. Of course, > Minnie may also be only a nickname. The daughter Dollye (again real name > or nickname?) obviously was given because my mother's name was Dollye. My > sense is that J. S. and Minnie Martin died in California, but without > birthdates and place of birth I can't seem to pick them out of the > California Death Index or Social Security Death Index. Believe me, I have > tried everything. > > I do not know where my father and J. S. MARTIN may have become acquainted, > though I suspect it had to be in either Nebraska or possibly Iowa. My > father was born in New Market, Iowa in 1883 and my sense is that he and J. > S. Martin were of an age. I have photos from Colorado that suggest that > my father and J. S. MARTIN were called "The Sons of Thunder" in the > advertising for their evangelistic meetings. J. S. MARTIN was the song > leader and soloist of the HUNTER-MARTIN evangelistic team. > > Is there anyone out there who might have some clues that would help me > locate J. S. and Minnie MARTIN? I am amxious to get their genealogical > data as I am researching my father's life and ministry in order to put > together a written memoir. Please forgive this too lengthyand probably > confusing posting. I hope that someone out there may be able to help. > Thanks. Tis is my first posting so hopefully I haven't violated any of > the list's rules. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3920 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Help! I'm going bananas trying to find a J. S. MARTIN. I knew the man in the Bay Area, California in the 1950s-1960s. I believe his wife's name was Minnie and they may have had a daughter named Dollye. My father was a Nazarene evangelist and elder and I know for a fact that J. R. HUNTER and J. S. MARTIN had extended evangelistic meetings in Colorado in the period of 1917-1920, including such towns as Montrose, Delta, Canon City, and Colorado Springs. I have photos of J. S. MARTIN from that time and a newspaper clipping or two (one of which cited him incorrectly as B. S. MARTIN. I believe that while the MARTINS were living in the Bay Area, they attended the Berkeley Church of the Nazarene and were involved with my parents in the Bay Area Holiness Association. I have tried to obtain information from various Church of the Nazarene sources and the national denominational Archives in Kansas City, but with little success. Unfortunately, I do not know what the initials J. S. stand for and I do not know where he was born. I know they lived for a time in Nebraska. All my efforts in checking census records have been unsuccessful. There are plenty of Martins in Nebraska in the 1900-1930 censuses, but I haven't been able to hook up a J. S. Martin with a wife named Minnie. Of course, Minnie may also be only a nickname. The daughter Dollye (again real name or nickname?) obviously was given because my mother's name was Dollye. My sense is that J. S. and Minnie Martin died in California, but without birthdates and place of birth I can't seem to pick them out of the California Death Index or Social Security Death Index. Believe me, I have tried everything. I do not know where my father and J. S. MARTIN may have become acquainted, though I suspect it had to be in either Nebraska or possibly Iowa. My father was born in New Market, Iowa in 1883 and my sense is that he and J. S. Martin were of an age. I have photos from Colorado that suggest that my father and J. S. MARTIN were called "The Sons of Thunder" in the advertising for their evangelistic meetings. J. S. MARTIN was the song leader and soloist of the HUNTER-MARTIN evangelistic team. Is there anyone out there who might have some clues that would help me locate J. S. and Minnie MARTIN? I am amxious to get their genealogical data as I am researching my father's life and ministry in order to put together a written memoir. Please forgive this too lengthyand probably confusing posting. I hope that someone out there may be able to help. Thanks. Tis is my first posting so hopefully I haven't violated any of the list's rules.

I am interested in any information for a William Martin found in the Des Moines Iowa Census 1900, Lee Twp. Ward 7, wife Amanda, step dau. Jennie Emery, daughters Ella (born 1881 Iowa) and Mary (born 1887 Iowa). Thank-you! Carol Anderson

Thelma, It is I who was mistaken; your numbers below are correct! Sorry if I mislead someone. Jim -------Original Message------- From: Thelma Martin Date: 4/19/2007 5:50:37 PM To: martin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN] NARA to raise the cost of Mililtary records & Pensions Jim, Someone is mistaken somewhere. The pension packets, if they are to be $25, have gone up not down. They have been $14.75 and the full file $37.00. I agree $125.00 is outrageous. There is not very much information in the packets so I don't even order them anymore. However, $37.00 is pretty low for some of the files I have gotten are well over 200 pages long. Does anyone know when they last raised the prices? It seems to me they might have to increase prices but not to $125.!!!! Thelma _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Someone is mistaken somewhere. The pension packets, if they are to be $25, have gone up not down. They have been $14.75 and the full file $37.00. I agree $125.00 is outrageous. There is not very much information in the packets so I don't even order them anymore. However, $37.00 is pretty low for some of the files I have gotten are well over 200 pages long. Does anyone know when they last raised the prices? It seems to me they might have to increase prices but not to $125.!!!! Thelma _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07

Jim I agree with you, would save time and increase money for future requests. The online downloads could be win/win for all. NARA could sell memberships as does Heritage Quest. Will never happen as makes too sense!!! I know as a 40 year USPS retired employee. gerald --- Jim Gilmer <jimgilmer@charter.net> wrote: > Julia, > > I got thru the instructions and submitted my > comments. One note of interest > the increase from $37 to $125 is for the full civil > war pension file; the > cost for the civil war pension document packet > (selected documents) went > down from $37 to $25. The info in the federal > register from NARA states > that this latter pension file is what is ordered by > most researchers. Don't > know why that would be true, unless a genealogical > researcher wasn't aware > of the distinction when ordering. There is more > likely to be more > genealogical info in the full pension file. > > Jim Gilmer > > -------Original Message------- > >

I agree, Jim. I have found facts about the family from the full pension file that I would never have found elsewhere. I sure hope that our comments will make a difference. Julia In a message dated 4/18/2007 5:17:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jimgilmer@charter.net writes: I got thru the instructions and submitted my comments. One note of interest the increase from $37 to $125 is for the full civil war pension file; the cost for the civil war pension document packet (selected documents) went down from $37 to $25. The info in the federal register from NARA states that this latter pension file is what is ordered by most researchers. Don't know why that would be true, unless a genealogical researcher wasn't aware of the distinction when ordering. There is more likely to be more genealogical info in the full pension file. Jim Gilmer ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Julia, I got thru the instructions and submitted my comments. One note of interest the increase from $37 to $125 is for the full civil war pension file; the cost for the civil war pension document packet (selected documents) went down from $37 to $25. The info in the federal register from NARA states that this latter pension file is what is ordered by most researchers. Don't know why that would be true, unless a genealogical researcher wasn't aware of the distinction when ordering. There is more likely to be more genealogical info in the full pension file. Jim Gilmer -------Original Message------- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com Date: 4/18/2007 3:21:24 PM To: FRENCH@rootsweb.com; hancock@rootsweb.com; sharp@rootsweb.com; martin@rootsweb.com; BRIDGES@rootsweb.com; rust@rootsweb.com; Moore@rootsweb com Subject: [MARTIN] NARA to raise the cost of Mililtary records & Pensions This came to me via another list, but is important. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Instructions for Writing to NARA By Sue Axton The 7 March 2007 issue of the Review discusses the US National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) proposal to increase its fees for photocopying records; notably, it mentions their proposal to increase fees for copies of Civil War pension files from $37 to $125. I went to the NARA site to find a place to make a comment on the fee increase, but the site is almost impossible to figure out. Maybe you could give step-by-step instructions in a future newsletter. Also, maybe you could encourage people to write their representatives. I am not against a reasonable fee to cover the cost of paper and ink, but $125 for Civil War pension records is way out of line. That puts the cost out of reach for most researchers. I would pay an extra fee if the records I request would be put online for everyone to access. As long as they are going to the trouble of copying them once, how hard would it be to put them on the website? [Editor's Note: Comments on the NARA proposal for a photocopying fee increase must be made by 27 April, so if you have comments submit them soon. The following are step-by-step instructions for submitting your comments: 1. Go to www.regulations.gov. 2. Under "Search for," select "Documents Open for Public Comment." 3. Under "Agency," select "National Archives and Records Administration*." 4. Under "Document Type," select "All Document Types." 5. In the "Keyword or ID" field, type "NARA-07-0001-0001." 6. Select "Exact Phrase." 7. Click the "Submit" button. You can read the proposed rule by clicking the PDF icon in the "Views" column. You can add your comments by clicking the yellow balloon icon in the "Comments" column. Also, you can e-mail comments to your government representative at: http://www.house.gov/writerep/.] To view the 7 March 2007 Review announcement about the proposed NARA fee increase, visit: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2007/0307.txt PLEASE, PLEASE WRITE TO THEM TODAY!!!!!! Liz Stookesberry Myers ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This came to me via another list, but is important. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Instructions for Writing to NARA By Sue Axton The 7 March 2007 issue of the Review discusses the US National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) proposal to increase its fees for photocopying records; notably, it mentions their proposal to increase fees for copies of Civil War pension files from $37 to $125. I went to the NARA site to find a place to make a comment on the fee increase, but the site is almost impossible to figure out. Maybe you could give step-by-step instructions in a future newsletter. Also, maybe you could encourage people to write their representatives. I am not against a reasonable fee to cover the cost of paper and ink, but $125 for Civil War pension records is way out of line. That puts the cost out of reach for most researchers. I would pay an extra fee if the records I request would be put online for everyone to access. As long as they are going to the trouble of copying them once, how hard would it be to put them on the website? [Editor's Note: Comments on the NARA proposal for a photocopying fee increase must be made by 27 April, so if you have comments submit them soon. The following are step-by-step instructions for submitting your comments: 1. Go to www.regulations.gov. 2. Under "Search for," select "Documents Open for Public Comment." 3. Under "Agency," select "National Archives and Records Administration*." 4. Under "Document Type," select "All Document Types." 5. In the "Keyword or ID" field, type "NARA-07-0001-0001." 6. Select "Exact Phrase." 7. Click the "Submit" button. You can read the proposed rule by clicking the PDF icon in the "Views" column. You can add your comments by clicking the yellow balloon icon in the "Comments" column. Also, you can e-mail comments to your government representative at: http://www.house.gov/writerep/.] To view the 7 March 2007 Review announcement about the proposed NARA fee increase, visit: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2007/0307.txt PLEASE, PLEASE WRITE TO THEM TODAY!!!!!! Liz Stookesberry Myers ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi How do the rest of you get on with the Genes Reunited web site? Personally I find the Genes Reunited site unnecessarily tedious to use - I can't be bothered with all the secrecy and the convoluted workings. I have up loaded my 'tree'as a Gedcom file to it, but tend to redirect 'contacts' from the Genes Reunited web site to my own web site where they can search to their 'hearts delight' and to then contact me again by direct e-mail to discuss our joint ancestry. And what is it with the 'contacts'? They go to all that trouble to initiate a contact, then you reply, then nothing! Even when it was obvious from the start that there was a 'firm' match - nothing! Are the people who use Genes Reunited serious about their Family History or was it a passing phase they went through one wet Saturday afternoon? Then again they may be the types who only switch on their computer once a month, or members of the IT inept. How do you get across to them that by not following up on a contact they have started, they are wasting your time and being rude in the extreme? The Genes Reunited system seems to have this situation designed in to it. What's the point of it? Not communication - or uniting any genes that's for sure! 'By for now Val www.tomasin.org.uk This e-mail, and any attachments to it, have been automatically checked for 'nasties' by Zone Labs' ZoneAlarm 6.

Robert Martin, of Baldwin Co, Mine made application June 1818, age 64 years. His wife was Rosanna, no children mentioned Lt Robert Martin of Marion Co Tennessee, made application aug 1832, age 77 years. Enlisted in Mecklenburg Co., NC. He was born, withing 14 miles of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 10 April 1755, moved to Roawan Co NC at age 3 thena ge 5 moved to Mecklenburg, NC, reside there for 40 years; then moved to Washington Co., TN and then moved to Buncombe Co NC for 15 years then moved to marion Co., TN. he died 20 July 1840. No wife or children mentioned Robert Martin application made Aug 1832, age 73 years, of Canaan Grafton Co, New Hampshire. No wife or children mentioned. Robert Martin application made May 1818, age 63 years, of Deer Creek, Pickaway Co., OH. Wife, Nancy, no last name, md in 15 Mar 1780 in Prince Ann Co., Maryland. Moved to Butler Co, KY then to Pickaway Co Ohio where he died 30 Nov 1836. Widowed moved to Fountain Co., Indiana with son JOhn P MArtin. 7 children; George, died infancy; Elizabeth; Luther; Ann; Dorothy; Cassia and John P. Widowed died 19 Sept 1845. Elizabeth did not survive her mother. Ann md a Cory. dorothy md a Cory. Cassia md a Grant. That is all I have on any Robert Martin. janet Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lshoupereno@cs.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: [MARTIN] Robert Martin b 1730-50 >I am researching this family to find a revolutionary ancestor for a > prospective member of DAR. Do you have any clue that this Robert may have > served in > any way? This lady's ancestry goes thru Elizabeth Martin who m Richard > Ohohundro. I would surley apprecizte any help you may be able to give me, > Lois Shoupe > </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >