Hello, Concerning the name Martin in Virginia in colonial days: there was a group of German immigrants who came to Virginin begining in 1714, they were brought by Gov. Spotswood in order to mine Silver. That did not work out, but they settled in Central Virginia and later move waves of these German immigrants arrived to settle with the first group and their descendants. There settlement was called FORT GERMANNA. They spoke German, had a German church (Hebron Lutheran Church). This is the area of Culpeper Co VA, Madison Co VA, depending on the exact year, as county boundaries changed. There was indeed a MARTIN family among these people. If you feel you might be connected or what to learn more, go to: www.germanna.org this website has info, and there are books for sale, and also there is a rootsweb.com mailing list specifically for this group. The mailing list is very active and has wonderful researchers who will help you to find the Martin line and descendants named martin who are connected to Fort Germanna. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linus Linus" <cafelinus@yahoo.com> To: <martin-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:07 AM Subject: [MARTIN] 18th c VA Martins: seeking parentage of Thomas Martin whom. Rachel Caffery > Hello all, > > My name is Linus and I'm presently researching > multiple lines in the old south including a Martin > line in Virginia. > > I'm curious to find out if anyone might know or be > investigating the parentage of Thomas Martin (b abt > 1740 in possibly Beford County) who married Rachel > Caffrey or Caffery. > > Thank you and good day, > > Linus > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello to all list members, I wanted to comment on the name of OWEN. This is a very special name in the Irish history and heritage. The name Owen means an attachment to the land of Ireland, such as a statement of being really and truely Irish. As the years went by, the name Owen made it's way into England and Scotland and other places for sure. But what I want to say, is the name Owen is Irish and is an Irish statement. For example: you might have a radio which is stamped on it: "Made in Japan". The name Owen is like that stamp, but meaning "made in Ireland". Later in history and up to the modern day, the name Owen can be used by anyone in the world, but what I am trying to say is the name Owen has a very strong meaning and tie to Ireland originally. I do not mean to say that everyone named Owen is automatically Irish, like a dna test result. No, that is not what I mean. I hope everyone can understand this. Email is sometimes a difficult thing to use when trying to explain something that can be taken many ways. My second point is this: Maryland was first founded and settled by Catholics from England. The second Lord Calvert had the charter from the English Crown. He was himself a Roman Catholic, even though he was English. This may sound strange, because we are mainly taught that Protestants from England and elsewhere first founded and settled America, but this is not the case in Maryland, it was Catholics first, then later the majority grew to be Protestant. I am bringing the 2 points together, to suggest that perhaps a man named Owen Martin in Maryland might be Catholic. Ireland is a Catholic place, except in Northern Ireland which has some Scots and English Protestants who were planted there during the "Plantations" period by the English Crown. I am sure that there can be Protestants, and even protestants in Northern Ireland who are named Owen. I don't mean to say that Owen is only for Irish catholics, but there is a very strong tradition of the name Owen among Northern ireland native Irish catholics. My own ancestry goes back to William M. Martin b. 1826 Rockingham Co NC, near Reidsville, he is possibly the son of Micajah Martin, s/o Bailey Martin, Sr and Lydia. I have still never found a dna candidate for my line to be tested, even though the line has many many descendants, mostly living in Texas. I have guessed that my line is Irish at some point only because of the physical look of descendants. But that is a guess only until I can find a male Martin to be tested. The name Martin is extremely common in Ireland. Sometimes spelled as Martyn there. Best Regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ravynw@aol.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Owen Martin > > > HI there, Don't Know Owen, Donna but here is my one Martin connection so > far.... > > Elizabeth Martin > born 1662 in Talbot, Maryland, USA > > married a man by the interesting name of Thomas Thomas (also of Talbot) > > and she died in Nov 25 1720 in "Queen Annes", Maryland,USA > > > thanks..hope it helps someone and would love to know if I am related to > anyone on this list too. > Blessings > Brenda Kent > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

All my research points me to a John Martin b. 1714 Bedford Co., Va. I have no other info but would appreciate a posting when you find more. Amy McLeod gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-granddaughter of Thomas Martin Linus Linus <cafelinus@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello all, My name is Linus and I'm presently researching multiple lines in the old south including a Martin line in Virginia. I'm curious to find out if anyone might know or be investigating the parentage of Thomas Martin (b abt 1740 in possibly Beford County) who married Rachel Caffrey or Caffery. Thank you and good day, Linus ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

I am seeking to find Issac Martin, born about 1820 according to census and Bible records. The census record is in very bad handwritting but it appears to say that he was born in Indiana. (It may have been Louisiana since that is where he lived at the time of the census, but it really looks like Indiana.) This was the 1870 Avoyelles Parish, La. census. He was married to Sarahann Lewis (Wilson, Hagewood). This was her third marriage and probably atleast his second since they were married later in life. (late 30s or 40s) They had been neighbors on the prior census. Issac Martin became my step-great-great grandfather. My g g grandmother remained married to him the rest of her life and he was always known to her children and grandchildren and even great grandchildren as big papa. Until I began doing our family research, I did not realize that he probably did not have any blood relationship to us. That is hardly a concern in matters of the heart. He is in our family stories, in our Family Bible, and burried next to my gg grandmother. I still want to find out where he came from and who his family was. A part of him passed down through the generations. If anyone else has an Issac Martin that you think could be him, then please let me know. I suspect that this will be similar to one of our Kerr family that almost eluded research, because no one claimed him. He moved from the area where the rest of the family stayed put, he was one of the family's oldest children and some of the younger ones did not remember him, current researchers did not realize that he fit into the blank spot in their tree and did not respond to our inquiries. Are there any possible matches to my Issac Martin?? Sincerely, Karen Moore Kerr --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

Bill I am looking for my Martin ancestors, found them but can't seem to get any further back than Mary "Polly" Martin that married Francis Thompson. I had better review my records but think her father was Alexander. Thelma Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Churchill" <churchil@koyote.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname Given Undocumented Events I seriously doubt that - if you mean all Martins are genetically related. Of course, if you mean Martin de Tours was the originator of Martin as a surname - that could be true. Martin is Norman name used by both English and much later French descendants. In that regard it has both a Norman (later to be French) and English origin - assuming the varied family descent claims are correct. In any case, Martin would have originated from Normandy for which France had no claim in the time of the Conquest. (In a fight the Normans would have had the French for lunch circa Conquest time.) Are you saying that French and English Martins are genetically related? Has the Martin Project tested French derived Martins and are they related to the English Martins? Would all the above make Martin French or English??? Just wondering. Best Regards, Bill Churchill -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Gieger [mailto:giegerg@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:05 PM To: martin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname I believe that all the Martins in America stem from Martin de Tours of Normandy ca1040... >From: Kenneth Martin <bacdoc@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: martin@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:42:15 -0700 > >I have run across a problem with many of my surname searches and I am >asking everyone for advise on how to best avoid this problem. > >As many of you have probably found out, there are MANY different Martin >clans that are not related to each other in any way. With Martin being >such a common name, it is easy to be tracing a person and find out >later that they have absolutely no connection to your family >whatsoever. This could mean hours of work for nothing. > >Recently, I have followed two lines of Martins that were not related to >me, and the way I found out (down the line) was that they were slaves, >and took on the Martin name of their owner. (Still not sure if the >owner was related) > >Is there any proper way that we could post about our ancestors, and >note if they were of any general group (English, German, African, >Indian, Chinese, Japanese, American Indian, Swedish, French, etc) >without hurting anyone's feelings? > >Providing this information on this list could help someone find a link >or may help someone that is traveling down a dead end path of searches. > >Suggestions for solving this problem would be appreciated. > >Ken Martin > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Picture this - share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/851 - Release Date: 06/16/2007 12:50 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI there, Don't Know Owen, Donna but here is my one Martin connection so far.... Elizabeth Martin born 1662 in Talbot, Maryland, USA married a man by the interesting name of Thomas Thomas (also of Talbot) and she died in Nov 25 1720 in "Queen Annes", Maryland,USA thanks..hope it helps someone and would love to know if I am related to anyone on this list too. Blessings Brenda Kent

Still looking for any hints of Owen Martin b. ca 1821 in Va (per census records). He married Sarah Starnes in Meigs Co., Tn. in 1844. Children named: Mary Ann, John, Sarah, Amanda, James, Owen, Jacob, Vilena. If anyone has any info on this man, pls. holler at me. Thanks Donna

Hello all, My name is Linus and I'm presently researching multiple lines in the old south including a Martin line in Virginia. I'm curious to find out if anyone might know or be investigating the parentage of Thomas Martin (b abt 1740 in possibly Beford County) who married Rachel Caffrey or Caffery. Thank you and good day, Linus ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/

Oh, I had finished three years of College by that time, and I am fully aware of XX and XY Chromosomes, but my point was that just because someone does or does not carry the Surname, it does not mean that they are not Martin Descendants... Some people are placing too much hope on the DNA tests...We must remember that some folks who have the Martin surname may not really be descended from the bloodline because there were adoptions which were never acknowledged or documented, plus some children who were born into a family with the Martin surname were actually fathered by someone other than the Spouse of the mother...although it may have remained hidden and known only to the mother, who took it with her to her grave. Modern birth control only became known in the 20th Century... Let's not kid ourselves, people being people, the same things happened over the Centuries as go on today...not to mention that many freed-men took the surnames of their former Masters. I believe that if you have the male DNA link, wonderful; however there are a lot of folks who have a link, but just cannot prove it with present day DNA testing, so we have to rely on the time-tested hard-copy method...Bible Records; Deeds; Wills; name relationships; traditions; etc. Gerry >From: "Gwen Stuart" <GStuart1@cfl.rr.com> >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:09:23 -0400 > >No, it doesn't make us less of Martin descent, but we don't have the Y >chromosone that is carried and passed down by the male to the male. We >girls are XX (an X from each parent)and guys are XY (an X from the mother >and a Y from the father). It is because of the passing down of the Y that >the line can be traced back only on the males. > >If I remember correctly it was 1958 when Watson and Crick discovered DNA. >I'm sure there are many researchers on this list (and all all the lists) >that were already through school by the time DNA was discovered, to say >nothing of being taught in school. The older ones can not be expected to >have the same understanding of DNA as the younger ones. > >I hope this doesn't further confuse things . > >Gwen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> >To: <martin@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:35 PM >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > > > > Exactly, but that doesn't make them any less a Martin descendant... > > > > > >>From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com > >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com > >>To: martin@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > >>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:18:02 EDT > >> > >> > >>If they come through the females, their names wouldn't be Martin. >Females > >>change their surname every generation. > >>Julia > >> > >>In a message dated 6/16/2007 1:16:29 PM Central Daylight Time, > >>giegerg@hotmail.com writes: > >> > >>Not if they came thru the Females... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>************************************** See what's free at > >>http://www.aol.com. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. > > >http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3

The lind of Barkley Martin has been DNA tested. Hiis father was Jacob Martin of Edgefield Co., SC and Jackson Co., GA. See Group 3: http://small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/results.htm Julia In a message dated 6/16/2007 7:32:47 PM Central Daylight Time, vstesnar@charter.net writes: MORGAN, William. Book B, Page 183, "Old Records." Probate Judge Office. Pickens, S.C. William Morgan as a citizen was given two tracts of land. One tract of 198 acres lying below the Ancient Boundrey Line, on waters of Horns Creek. Bound by land of Barkley Martin ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hey Lynn, You are the one who helped me find out that Joseph Martin from Rodez France was the father of Sylvester Martin. I bought the book by Micheal Farmer and it had many people in there that I have know also some of it came right to Dothan al. where I live. Thank You Lynn LynMhere@aol.com wrote: Barbara, The man I suspect is my 5x greatgrandfather was from Rodez, France. He was Joseph Martin b. abt. 1758, d. after Feb 07, 1835 in Wayne Co., NC. He came here with D'Estaing during the Revolutionary War. I would love to hear more about your Martin family from Rodez. Lyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

Exactly, but that doesn't make them any less a Martin descendant... >From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: martin@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:18:02 EDT > > >If they come through the females, their names wouldn't be Martin. Females >change their surname every generation. >Julia > >In a message dated 6/16/2007 1:16:29 PM Central Daylight Time, >giegerg@hotmail.com writes: > >Not if they came thru the Females... > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01

On 6/16/07, Gwen Stuart <GStuart1@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > If I remember correctly it was 1958 when Watson and Crick discovered DNA. Almost. In 1953, Watson and Crick were the first to suggest that DNA was structured as a helix. So they are credited as discovering the *structure* of DNA. But DNA itself had been known since 1869, when it was called "nuclein" because it was found in the nuclei of cells. Drew Smith

No, it doesn't make us less of Martin descent, but we don't have the Y chromosone that is carried and passed down by the male to the male. We girls are XX (an X from each parent)and guys are XY (an X from the mother and a Y from the father). It is because of the passing down of the Y that the line can be traced back only on the males. If I remember correctly it was 1958 when Watson and Crick discovered DNA. I'm sure there are many researchers on this list (and all all the lists) that were already through school by the time DNA was discovered, to say nothing of being taught in school. The older ones can not be expected to have the same understanding of DNA as the younger ones. I hope this doesn't further confuse things . Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname > Exactly, but that doesn't make them any less a Martin descendant... > > >>From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >>To: martin@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:18:02 EDT >> >> >>If they come through the females, their names wouldn't be Martin. Females >>change their surname every generation. >>Julia >> >>In a message dated 6/16/2007 1:16:29 PM Central Daylight Time, >>giegerg@hotmail.com writes: >> >>Not if they came thru the Females... >> >> >> >> >> >>************************************** See what's free at >>http://www.aol.com. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. > http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Am not related and have no other info to share except an excerpt from A COLLECTION OF UPPER SOUTH CAROLINA GENEALOGICAL AND FAMILY RECORDS, VOL 3 Copyright 1982 by Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr. and reprinted 1999. Southern Historical Press, Inc. Pg 197. MORGAN, William. Book B, Page 183, "Old Records." Probate Judge Office. Pickens, S.C. William Morgan as a citizen was given two tracts of land. One tract of 198 acres lying below the Ancient Boundrey Line, on waters of Horns Creek. Bound by land of Barkley Martin, Qcquilla Miles and Reuben Becham. Surveyed by Bennett Crafton D.S. on the 27 Oct. 1784. His other tract was 72 acres lying in Edgefield County on waters of Horn Creek, surveyed by William Tolbert D.S. the 23 March 1786. Recorded 29 May 1786. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <martin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 83 > Grandfather James was born in 1756 and twice married, secondly to my > gggg-grandmother Mary (surname unknown) who was listed as a widow on the > 1830 Census in Bryan Couinty and made a Quit Claim Deed in 1841 in Bryan > County, naming his heirs. I believe she died in FL after relocating there > to > live with their son, Emanuel Henry Martin. A book by Elam Virgil Martin > on > E.H. Martin's Genealogy is available in Orlando and Tampa Libraries and > probably other larger Libraries. Your local Library might get it on > Inter-Library Loan...but don't place a lot of faith in it going back > before > Grandfather John...They made an error and caused a lot of mis-information > to > be spread. > > Grandfather James had a son, James (ii), but I know nothing about him...I > know that Grandfather James was alive in 1828 because he Deeded land to > Emanuel Henry Martin, but he must have died before 1830. He had extensive > land holdings in Bryan County, maybe 1000 acres or more, and he was a > Commissioner after the Revolutionary War. I would very much like to find > more data on his Patriot activities, and think they may be the John and > James Martin who are listed on the Tory 'List of Traitors to the Crown' > made > after the British recaptured Savannah in 1782. I know that he sold > Grandfather John's Baldwin County Land grant in 1810. I know that he got > Land Grants in "old" Effingham County before the War and some after the > War, > before Effingham was divided up. > > I have a hunch that they migrated from the Edgefield SC Martins in the > early > 1770's and I think Grandfather John's father was a William Martin but I > have > not proven it... > > Stay in touch...maybe together we can sort this out... > > >>From: Bill Derrow <lwderrow@comcast.net> >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >>To: martin@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 83 >>Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:47:17 -0400 >> >>Hello, >> >>Do you know anything about John's son, James? My ancestor, James L. >>Martin, was in Jasper in the early 1800s, marrying there in 1821, but I >>have no information on his siblings or parents, except one reference to >>his father being J. Mather Martin, which has yet to be substantiated. >>If John A. Martin died in 1809, he would have been old enough to be the >>father of James L. Martin, who was born ca. 1790, SC, and died ca. >>1851/1852, Barbour Co., AL. Any possible connection? >> >>Gerald Gieger wrote: >> >> >My ggggg-grandfather John A Martin received a 282 1/2 acre Land Grant >>from >> >Gov. Jared Irwin in 1808, located in Baldwin County. >> > >> >Now, I recognize that the land was actually in what is now Jasper County >>and >> >that the present day Baldwin County is not the same as that County which >>was >> >later re-named Randolph, and afterward became Jasper...However, I am >> >replying to your Inquiry in hope that you can identify Grandfather John >> >and/or his Parents. He died in 1809 in Bulloch or Bryan County. His >>wife's >> >name was Elizabeth and I believe she pre-deceased him. He had five >> >known >> >{or identified} children: James; Elijah; Rachel; Mary; & my >>gggg-grandmother >> >Mercy. Elijah and Rachel may have been twins, since I have seen >> >records >> >indicating the same Birth-year for both, albeit there were no BC back >>then. >> > >> >They were adherents of the German Baptist Brethren, often called >>'Dunkers.' >> >Grandfather John was a Minister. >> > >> >If you can provide any connection, I would appreciate it... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>From: e.g.lambert@att.net >> >>Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >> >>To: martin@rootsweb.com >> >>Subject: Re: [MARTIN] MARTIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 83 >> >>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:11:59 +0000 >> >> >> >>My Martin family was from Baldwin County [Milledgeville], >> >>Georgia--James >> >>Thomas Martin who married Mattie Luvenia Vinson. >> >> >> >>-------------- Original message from martin-request@rootsweb.com: >> >>-------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Today's Topics: >> >>> >> >>>1. Pre-publication information on the Richard Caswell book >> >>>(JULIAFWOOD@aol.com) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >>>Message: 1 >> >>>Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:09:19 EDT >> >>>From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com >> >>>Subject: [MARTIN] Pre-publication information on the Richard Caswell >> >>>book >> >>>To: FRENCH@rootsweb.com, hancock@rootsweb.com, Martin@rootsweb.com, >> >>>sharp@rootsweb.com, COPELAND@rootsweb.com, BRIDGES@rootsweb.com, >> >>>BRUCE@rootsweb.com >> >>>Message-ID: >> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >>> >> >>>The first biography ever written on Richard Caswell, NC Revolutionary >> >>> >> >>> >> >>War >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hero and the first Governor of North Carolina will be released on >> >>> >> >>> >> >>Monday, >> >> >> >> >> >>>August 13 as the start of the weeklong celebration of his life. 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Barbara, The man I suspect is my 5x greatgrandfather was from Rodez, France. He was Joseph Martin b. abt. 1758, d. after Feb 07, 1835 in Wayne Co., NC. He came here with D'Estaing during the Revolutionary War. I would love to hear more about your Martin family from Rodez. Lyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I know that DNA is a different heritage than just our genes and characteristics. While researching the surnameof my g grandmother, I found living cousins. We decided to have a real family reunion and that had not been done for over 60 years. Except for the few cousins that were about my age, I had not met any of the attendees. A little over 100 attended. When I came near the seating in the park an elderly man told me that he thought he had seen a ghost when he saw me. The man was in his 90's. He immediately told me that I had to be related to Eva. I was startled, and confessed that she had been my g grandmother. I had never seen her as a young woman. She was already quite old when I was born. The man who later turned out to be my g grandmother's much younger first cousin, told me that I was her spitting image. I never knew that I so resembled her and had inherited her genes that make up appeanace. Even though I was two generations later, and the last name had gone through four name changes as my g grandmother, my grandmother, my mother, and myself had each married; even so I looked more like that branch of the family than most of the male descendents. That was confirmed many times that day. So I may not have the Hinson Y chromosone which is needed to for the DNA screening, I have inherited some strong genes. Many Martin female descendents may have experienced the same type of things. Sometimes I feel more like a Hinson than cousins that still carry that surname. Karen Moore Kerr --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.

Not if they came thru the Females... >From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: martin@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:08:54 EDT > > >If that were true, they would all have the same Y-DNA, which they don't. > >_http://small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/results.htm_ >(http://small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/results.htm) > >Julia > >In a message dated 6/16/2007 1:06:03 PM Central Daylight Time, >giegerg@hotmail.com writes: > >I believe that all the Martins in America stem from Martin de Tours of >Normandy ca1040... > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm

I believe that all the Martins in America stem from Martin de Tours of Normandy ca1040... >From: Kenneth Martin <bacdoc@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: martin@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:42:15 -0700 > >I have run across a problem with many of my surname searches and I am >asking everyone for advise on how to best avoid this problem. > >As many of you have probably found out, there are MANY different Martin >clans that are not related to each other in any way. With Martin being >such a common name, it is easy to be tracing a person and find out >later that they have absolutely no connection to your family >whatsoever. This could mean hours of work for nothing. > >Recently, I have followed two lines of Martins that were not related to >me, and the way I found out (down the line) was that they were slaves, >and took on the Martin name of their owner. (Still not sure if the >owner was related) > >Is there any proper way that we could post about our ancestors, and >note if they were of any general group (English, German, African, >Indian, Chinese, Japanese, American Indian, Swedish, French, etc) >without hurting anyone's feelings? > >Providing this information on this list could help someone find a link >or may help someone that is traveling down a dead end path of searches. > >Suggestions for solving this problem would be appreciated. > >Ken Martin > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Picture this – share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

My Martins did indeed come from Rodez France I don't know about the rest of them Barbara Gerald Gieger <giegerg@hotmail.com> wrote: Not if they came thru the Females... >From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com >Reply-To: martin@rootsweb.com >To: martin@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MARTIN] Martin Surname >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:08:54 EDT > > >If that were true, they would all have the same Y-DNA, which they don't. > >_http://small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/results.htm_ >(http://small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/results.htm) > >Julia > >In a message dated 6/16/2007 1:06:03 PM Central Daylight Time, >giegerg@hotmail.com writes: > >I believe that all the Martins in America stem from Martin de Tours of >Normandy ca1040... > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.