Strange...as I was looking for a Sarah Caroline (Carrie) MARTIN this afternoon...but the dates and places don't match. Mike -----Original Message----- From: MNYHOURS@aol.com [mailto:MNYHOURS@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 7:54 PM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARTIN-L] Martins Looking for connections to Martins in PA/IA/IN/IL/MO/KS/WY/CA/MT/ND/CO to start with. Given names I have: MATTIE/MARGARET/MARTHA, SARAH, CARRIE, THOMAS, ELMER/EDWARD (I think these were all siblings). I have many other names, but have not been able to make sense of them yet. Locations have posed a problem also. I know the SR Martins, spent many years, and had children in KS and MO. There must be offsprings still there. Also of those kids....Thomas settled in WY and had family there. Sarah moved to CA and married into the Gates family either by her own marriage or of a child of hers. Mattie moved to MT and ND and back to MT and then on to OR. Mattie died in abt 1950 in Portland Oregon. Possibly Sarah, either Mattie's mother or her sister with the same name died in 1931. This last note I have on a postcard, not sure who died, it just says mom died. Not much to go on...............still grasping at straws. Myrna

Edith, Have you looked for your Martins and Coffmans or Koffmans in Penn? Both names are found as Mennonites in Lancaster, Chester, Dauphin counties of Penn. These names so up as early as the 1700's in Penn. Rita

No it doesn't maatch, but than you anyway, My William was married to Sally Coffman and their kids are: Slias Job b 2/7/1900 Harry & Carrie (twins) Jesse b 4/4/1893 Walter H. b 1882 Goldie Hester John Robert b 5/19/1887 in Palmer ,Missouri (Washington Co) Bessie Lucy Lawrence b 2/28/1908 John (Jim?) Henry died in Western State Mental Hospital in Bolivar, Tennessee never married Edith ----- Original Message ----- From: Nelda Kyzar <kyzars@telepak.net> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] Moses Stinson Martin > Edith, > > William Henry (Will) Martin born Nov. 18, 1848 and died July 7, 1928, married Euretta Henderson, March 7, 1867 in Lawrence County, Indiana. She was born 1848 and died 1899. > > I have only ten children listed for them, but there may be more. > > Cora J. > Hiram H. > Ollie > James Allen > Adam Arwine > Hubert > Ella > Alice > Lula E. > Eathel E. > > Does any of this match your William Henry Martin? > > Nelda > >

Andrew and list....I have what is listed on Sarah C. (nee MARTIN) KELLY's headstone. Both the 1850 Muscogee County, GA and the 1860 Macon County, AL Census listed her birth year as 1826. The age on her headstone works out to the same birth year. Her husband was John W. KELL(E)Y and I know Sarah bore my 2nd great-grandfather in 1843 in Russell County, AL. Sometime between 1843 and 1845 this couple moved back to GA and stayed at least until after the 1850 Census. My 2nd g-grandfather, William Charles KELLY had two sisters, Mary Virginia and Carrie; both born in GA. I suspect they lived in Columbus or somewhere in the Muscogee County, GA area. John W. is listed as a River boat pilot for an occupation. This conjecture ties in with John and Sarah's marriage in Muscogee County, GA on December 26, 1842. I know this isn't much more than what I had and actually reinterated (sp) what I posted. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Mobley [mailto:drew.mobley@gtrc.gatech.edu] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:09 PM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MARTIN-L] Sarah Caroline MARTIN > born abt. 1826 SC/GA died November 25... Don't know if Sarah Martin moved elsewhere, but most of the male lineage stayed in the Liberty County, Ga area. Many are still there today, in the Savannah, Ga area. Sarah's siblings are listed as; John 1785-1813? Elizabeth 1787-? Alexander 1789-? Nathaniel 1791-1870 William H. 1792-1875, married Elizabeth Daniel (My direct line) Jane 1782-? Floranna 1794-? Margaret 1796-? Angus 1798-? -----Original Message----- From: KULAND177@cs.com [mailto:KULAND177@cs.com] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:59 PM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] Sarah Caroline MARTIN > born abt. 1826 SC/GA died November 25... Andrew...regarding your Sarah Martin...dau of Martin Martin. Did this family move into Alabama in l840s or l850s? Please list Sarah's siblings and location in Ala if they moved there. Thanks, John Kulbeth, Merced, Calif.

Andrew, I tend to doubt it as well. Both the 1850 Muscogee County, GA and 1860 Macon County, AL Census list her birth year age...making her birth year 1826. Her headstone lists her age and it works out to be 1826 as well. I wish it were the case. Mike PS: thank you so very much for your help and support. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Mobley [mailto:drew.mobley@gtrc.gatech.edu] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:56 AM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MARTIN-L] Sarah Caroline MARTIN > born abt. 1826 SC/GA died November 25, 1892 Fayette County, TX I list a Sarah Martin born early 1800's. Most likly born in Taylor's Creek, Liberty County, Ga., just like the rest of her family, but I don't list marriage and children. Her father was Martin Martin (1745-4/1/1812). I list her other siblings too, if interested, but sounds like yours is a different Sarah. -----Original Message----- From: Firewalker [mailto:firewalker@ncfreedom.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:48 AM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARTIN-L] Sarah Caroline MARTIN > born abt. 1826 SC/GA died November 25, 1892 Fayette County, TX I've just about given up hope, but then I can't because everytime I turn around something new comes along on another line. Anyway, I normally post about twice a year, but since there has been a flurry of action on the MARTIN list I thought I would give it another shot. But instead of posting normally I thought I might ask if someone is missing a Sarah Caroline MARTIN and don't know where they went? In my great-great grandfathers autobiographical account of his life he tells his mothers name. He said she was born in GA. I find her and John W. KELLY for the first time in the marriage records of Muscogee County, GA on December 26, 1842. In the 1850 Muscogee County Census it states Sarah (I think she went by Carrie) was born abt. 1826 in SC. This difference is very common in census records of course. I then find the family in the 1860 Macon County, AL Census and it states Carrie was born in GA. I know she ran a hotel during the Civil War in Macon County, AL, but no one has records of it. I know there were three children. I know in 1880 she moved to Fayette County, TX to live with my great-great grandfather and died there. This is about all I do know though. I know it isn't much to go on, but if anyone is missing a Sarah or Carrie MARTIN after about 1842 please let me know. I have no idea where to search, since the 1840 census doesn't list but head of household. If you think you have the answer, please email me. Mike Kelly firewalker@ncfreedom.net

Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:01:43 -0500 From: "Reta " <rbrit2@kiwash.net> To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] Moses Stinson Martin John, Would you check your dates you posted? Reta ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McCarty" <bjmacc15@yahoo.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: [MARTIN-L] Moses Stinson Martin > Looking for information on Moses Stinson Martin, b. >18 Apr 1814, TN, m. Catherine Helton 9 Sep 1937 in > Lawrence County, IN, d. 31 Aug 1890, Lawrence County, > IN. I have found two children, but I suspect there > are more. Could Moses P. Martin be one? > John E. McCarty You are right. The marriage date should have been 1837. Sorry about that.

I've just about given up hope, but then I can't because everytime I turn around something new comes along on another line. Anyway, I normally post about twice a year, but since there has been a flurry of action on the MARTIN list I thought I would give it another shot. But instead of posting normally I thought I might ask if someone is missing a Sarah Caroline MARTIN and don't know where they went? In my great-great grandfathers autobiographical account of his life he tells his mothers name. He said she was born in GA. I find her and John W. KELLY for the first time in the marriage records of Muscogee County, GA on December 26, 1842. In the 1850 Muscogee County Census it states Sarah (I think she went by Carrie) was born abt. 1826 in SC. This difference is very common in census records of course. I then find the family in the 1860 Macon County, AL Census and it states Carrie was born in GA. I know she ran a hotel during the Civil War in Macon County, AL, but no one has records of it. I know there were three children. I know in 1880 she moved to Fayette County, TX to live with my great-great grandfather and died there. This is about all I do know though. I know it isn't much to go on, but if anyone is missing a Sarah or Carrie MARTIN after about 1842 please let me know. I have no idea where to search, since the 1840 census doesn't list but head of household. If you think you have the answer, please email me. Mike Kelly firewalker@ncfreedom.net

Edith, William Henry (Will) Martin born Nov. 18, 1848 and died July 7, 1928, married Euretta Henderson, March 7, 1867 in Lawrence County, Indiana. She was born 1848 and died 1899. I have only ten children listed for them, but there may be more. Cora J. Hiram H. Ollie James Allen Adam Arwine Hubert Ella Alice Lula E. Eathel E. Does any of this match your William Henry Martin? Nelda

Hi, No siblings listed. Have you tried Rootsweb world connect? This is search results on Jackson Martin: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?surname=Martin&given=Jackson&start=0&skipdb=&bplace=&stype=Exact&bskip=&dskip=&dplace= There's over 200 listed. Tom >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:13:02 EDT >From: KULAND177@cs.com >To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c8.19104eb9.28a9c70e@cs.com> >Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] New info on my Martins >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Tom...regarding your William A. Martin born cl821 in Georgia....do you have >an siblings for him? Am looking for a Jackson Martin born cl820 in Ga....he >was also known as John Martin and Jack Martin. He was in Alabama cl840 in or >around Marshall County. Thanks, John K.

Tom...regarding your William A. Martin born cl821 in Georgia....do you have an siblings for him? Am looking for a Jackson Martin born cl820 in Ga....he was also known as John Martin and Jack Martin. He was in Alabama cl840 in or around Marshall County. Thanks, John K.

I am seeking information about a William Henry Martin. His parents and siblings are unknown to me but he married Sally Coffman and they had 12 children, I have info on all of them. Do you know who this William Henry married? Edith Martin edithmartin@dfsi.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Nelda Kyzar <kyzars@telepak.net> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] Moses Stinson Martin > Children of Moses Stinson Martin and Catherine Helton Martin" > > Sarah Ann > Winnie Jane > Polly J. > Adam E. > Amanda > William Henry > Rial > Faitha > Susan L. > Leatha > Rebecca Jane > >

Hi, Research has turned up new info so I will again ask the good people of this list if anyone has any leads to my family. Here's the updated info regarding Frank A. Martin: His father was William A. Martin, born in January 1821 (some census records indicate 1825 or 1826) in Randolph County, Georgia. His mother's name was Mary but her last name, if she had one, is still unknown.She is believed to have been 1/2 Cherokee. Mary was born in 1820 in Georgia. William's father was believed to have been John Nutt Martin, born 1797 in Washington County, Georgia. This paternal lineage traces clearly to County Antrim, Northern Ireland. William A. Martin is known to have had 2 marriages in addition to the relationship which produced Frank . Frank's known siblings were Mary Elizabeth (1850-?), Rebeckah (ca 1852), Camelia "Milla" (ca 1852), Wiley Addison (1856-?), W. C. "Cole" (1859-?), John (1861-?), and George Washington "G.W." (1862-?). All were born in Alabama. We know Frank was married to a woman named Angeline Newell, born 1847 in Georgia or Alabama, who bore him 4 daughters, Mattie, Sarah (Sally), Ella, and Adeline Roselee. A portion of her family tree can be seen here. The oldest daughter, Mattie, was born at an unknown time. Sarah was born February 17, 1869. Ella was born about 1872 and our Great Grandmother Adeline Roselee (photo above right), known in the family as "Addie Lee", was born December 12, 1874. Angeline Newell Martin passed away in 1876, in Alabama. Frank remarried, to a woman named Nebraska Shaw and they had a son, William Henry Martin before moving west. The family, along with Frank's brother Wiley and elements of the Vail and Bradley families, settled in Lincoln Parish, Louisiana then finally in Bienville Parish, Louisiana, some time prior to 1883. There Frank and Nebraska had their final child, a daughter, Cora Martin. Frank Martin died in 1884 when Cora was only 2 years old. He was buried on the banks of Dugdemonia Creek in Bienville Parish, Louisiana. His wooden gravemarker was long ago washed away during a flood. Of Frank's siblings we know that sister Mary Elizabeth married Bennett S. Riddle. He was born July 13, 1845 and died June 17, 1916. He served in the C.S.A., Company B of the 41st Alabama Infantry. Mary Elizabeth was known as "Aunt Sis" and died September 19, 1950 and is buried at Millcreek Methodist Church Cemetery. Frank's sister Camella (Milla) is buried at Chestnut, LA. She and husband ? Trechelle had 5 kids; Doll, Lizzie, Eli, Herbert, and a girl who died when she was 12. Wiley Adison Martin had 3 wives. He first married Rosie ?, then a woman whose name is unknown, and finally, Sally Dawkins. It is said that he was "short, rode a big mule, and had a mustache." Brother Cole (W.C.) is buried at Creston, Black Lake. He married Zula Williams who was born at Reidheimer. Brother George Washington (G.W.) married Mary Lowery and they are buried between Campti and Coushatta. Mattie Martin married Pitt Driskill and bore him 4 children, Nano, William, John, and George. Sarah married Thomas Jefferson Anderson in 1883 and bore him one daughter, Adie Arlena "Lena" Anderson, on January 14, 1887, before passing away on December 25, 1887. Adie Arlena married Steve Decatur Renfrow on June 18, 1908 and bore him 9 children. Her line also thrives to this day in Northern Louisiana. Ella married Will Stocks and bore him 3 children, Allen, Eva, and Erma. On January 1, 1891 Addie Lee Martin married Benjamin Franklin Jimmerson (pictured above left with Addie) in Bienville Parish, Louisiana. Between 1891 and 1916 she bore him 15 children, one of whom was our Maternal Grandfather Joseph Dayton Jimmerson (December 16, 1901 - November 9, 1976). The other children were William David (October 5, 1891 - July 7, 1963), Lucinda Matilda (born 1893), Andrew Franklin (born 1895), Jesse Napoleon (November 5, 1896 - November 20, 1985), Mattie Mae (born 1898), Tommy Martin (March 6, 1900 - March 27, 1985), Addie Lee (born 1903), John Harvey (March 6, 1905 - 1983), Vera Pauline (July 19, 1907 - September 16, 1993), Sara Ella (born 1909), Irma Jewel (born 1911), Henry Cleveland (1913 - 1975), Lester Glenn (January 4, 1916 - August 17, 1986), and a baby boy who passed on the same day he was born (December 7, 1914). Her line continues today down to my 2 children and many others of their generation. Addie Lee passed away in 1938 and was buried on church ground. William Henry Martin never married. His sister Cora, on the other hand, married 3 times and had 2 children, Felix Johnson who "bore all the marks of his Indian ancestry", and Lela Mae Rogers. If anyone has anything at all, please email cherokee@netrox.net thanks, Tom

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I have a Jane Martin b. 1842 Peoria, Ill. daughter of Isaac Martin and Nancy. What year was your Jane born? Patch

Children of Moses Stinson Martin and Catherine Helton Martin" Sarah Ann Winnie Jane Polly J. Adam E. Amanda William Henry Rial Faitha Susan L. Leatha Rebecca Jane

Dave, This may be a "dumb" question (I'm not blonde) - but if the accident involving Hiram Edmond happened to have occurred on a Reservation, I wonder if it would have been reported to the State of New Mexico back then? The Reservations are pretty autonomous. Or have you already thought of that possibility? Regards, Pat

Hiram E. Martin b 1867 Shelby Co. Il to Joseph E. Martin & Sarah Jane Dawson Hiram's wife 1. Mary Light, second wife ca 1920 was Sula children; Charles b 1890was in Ft. Worth TX 1920-1926 at least his sons William and Geo both in WWII Mae b ca 1889Upshire TX m Jack Shirtleff Hiram Edmund b ca 1890, second wife and son visited my home in 1949 when I was 13 said Hiram was run over by a bus while changing a tire in NM (NM Buereau VS has no record) daughter believed to have graduated from Carter Riverside HS Ft. Worth, Mother and Dau. worked at a doughnut shop on University Dr. at 7th st in Ft. Worth. Paul b ca 1900 died in OK Hiram E Sr, was my great uncle. I attended school with at least one of his grand children and didn't know it at the time. Would like any info. Dave Martin 713-772-1417 Dave Martin <dmartin@globalrmktg.com> Global Remarketing & Recovery, Inc. 12869 Capricorn Dr. Stafford, Texas 77036-6056 281-265-8600 See our Inventory on the Internet at www.globalrmktg.com This message is intended only for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. This document may contain information, which is privileged and confidential within the meaning of applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender as soon as possible. The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by Global Remarketing & Recovery, Inc.. Global Remarketing & Recovery, Inc. runs anti-virus software on its network but it is the recipient(s) responsibility to scan any attachments for viruses and Global Remarketing & Recovery, Inc. accepts no responsibility for any infected files which may be transmitted.

Martin Researchers, In my search for my Martin family I ran across a census record as follows: Martin Robert b. unknown in Ark with parents b. in Unk Unk Tennesee b. May 1867 age 33 b. in AR parents Ten & Ill Criss son b. Nov 1890 age 9 b. in AR Dolpha son b. Jan 1893 age 7 b. in AR Eara daughter b. Jan 1895 age 5 b. in AR Lee daughter b. Feb 1885 age 15 in AR E. Hoear??? son b. Mar 1880 age 20 in AR Can anyone claim this Martin family???? I am looking for a Robert E. Martin born about 1846 in Arkansas. Thanks for reading and checking your data bases. Clarice

John, Would you check your dates you posted? Reta ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McCarty" <bjmacc15@yahoo.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: [MARTIN-L] Moses Stinson Martin > Looking for information on Moses Stinson Martin, b. 18 > Apr 1814, TN, m. Catherine Helton 9 Sep 1937 in > Lawrence County, IN, d. 31 Aug 1890, Lawrence County, > IN. I have found two children, but I suspect there > are more. Could Moses P. Martin be one? > John E. McCarty >

Looking for information on Moses Stinson Martin, b. 18 Apr 1814, TN, m. Catherine Helton 9 Sep 1937 in Lawrence County, IN, d. 31 Aug 1890, Lawrence County, IN. I have found two children, but I suspect there are more. Could Moses P. Martin be one? John E. McCarty