Well, one big difference is that if you get 30 e-mails with "Roll Call" in the subject line, then you have to read each and every one of them to find out if they're relevant to what you're looking for, whereas if the subject line gives names, dates, and/or places (or at least an idea of them), then you can more quickly and easily determine whether the e-mail will be of interest to you. It's simply a matter of courtesy--the e-mail should allow the reader to deal with it as efficiently as possible. This may not matter to everybody, but it does matter to some people. I belong to a number of genealogy lists, and the Roll Call rule Julia mentioned is a common one. At 05:51 PM 1/14/02 -0500, you wrote: >I may get kicked off this list but if we can't post info such as Julia did, >then how are we going to share our information as well as find out more about >our family? I thought this was the idea behind "the lists". > >As a long-time researcher and one who shares, please explain to all of us >what the difference is in a "roll call" and labelling it that...OR...just >posting several generations of our family in order to obtain more where we >have blank places. > >Jean in Arizona

I am looking for the parents of Wiley Martin. The 1880 Census in Macon County, Tennessee shows Wiley's family to be: !CENSUS: 1880 Census; Place: District 6, Macon, Tennessee; Source: FHL Film 1255270 National Archives Film T9-1270 Page 85D Name, Relation, Sex, Marr, Race, Age, Birthplace Wiley MARTIN Self, M, M, W, 29, TN, Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN; dob=about 1851 Martha MARTIN ; Wife, F, M, W, 29, TN Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN; dob=about 1851 William T. MARTIN ; Son, M, S, W, 9, TN Fa: TN Mo: TN; dob=about 1871 James D. MARTIN ; Son, M, S, W, 7, TN, Fa: TN, Mo: TN; dob=about 1872 Jessey A. MARTIN ; Son, M, S, W, 5, TN, Fa: TN, Mo: TN; dob=about 1875 John T. MARTIN ; Son, M, S, W, 3, TN, Fa: TN, Mo: TN, dob=about 1877 Mansfield MARTIN ; Son, M, S, W, 2, TN, Fa: TN, Mo: TN, dob=about 1878 1stName? MARTIN ; Son, M, S, W, 1M, TN, Fa: TN, Mo: TN, dob=about 5-1-1880 Carl Martin Matthews 7:7 ctm007@hal-pc.org

Myrna No this Sarah E. Martin married Henry Pyles Emma Adkins Vealey evealey@aol.com

I think all of us need the rules. I belong to a number of lists and thought they all had the same type of management and aim - - to share infomation on families. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ROOZOO8@aol.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: [MARTIN-L] Re "The Rules" > Julia- > My most humble apologies. I have never seen a list of "the rules". I > apologize if I have stepped on some toes here. I also did not know that you > were the "list owner" as you have never contacted me. If I have > inconvenienced you I am very sorry. The other list I am on has over 225 > members that responded and it worked well. I stand corrected. If there are > any other rules I would appreciate you posting them to me so I do not venture > into forbidden territory again. > For the others on this list I also apologize to you if I have gotten you > in hot water. > Margaret >

Looking for more information about the families of these two John Martins. 1 John Martin b: Abt. 1675 .................... .d: 1680 in age 105 years, 4 months . +Catherine ?? b: Unknown .....................m: Bef. 1716 Near Halifax Court House ......................d; ?? 2 John William Martin b: 1717 ................................d: February 27, 1824 in Halifax Co., Va. ... +Martha Metcalf b: Abt. 1727 Mecklenburg Co., Virginia age 107 ............................m: 1745 .............................d: Abt. 1812 in Halifax County age abt. age 85 ..3 Frederick Martin b: March 02, 1772 in Va. .............................d: June 02, 1856 in Ohio Co., Ky. age 84 ..... +Rebekah Snell b: 1807 in Va. ............................m: January 25, 1827 in Sumner County, Tn. ............................d: 1893 in Ky. or In. age 86 ....4 Joseph Martin b: November 18, 1843 in Warren Co. ............................d: July 22, 1911 in Vanderburg Co., In. age 67 ....... +Annie Eliza Fry b: August 29, 1852 in Jefferson Co., Tn. .............................m: October 01, 1871 in Ohio Co. ..............................d: June 18, 1918 in Covington, Kenton Co., Ky. ......5 William Patrick Martin b: February 24, 1878 in Henderson, Ky .........................................d: August 21, 1955 in Louisville, Ky. ......... +Mary Leona Ward b: April 05, 1886 in Henderson Co. ...................................m: January 25, 1905 in Henderson Co. ....................................d: August 21, 1969 in Louisville, Ky. ====================== Thank you, Herb

In a message dated 1/13/2002 9:37:29 PM Central Standard Time, billcyphers@erols.com writes: > billcyphers@erols.com (BILL CYPHERS) > Hello, I don't recall if we have communicated before, but I saw your listing with the entry for William Martin (TN) 1820 and Sarah A. Martin 1824. I am researching a William Albert Martin and his wife, Sarah, who left TN and relocated in Poinsett Co. AR on the land of a David Cross o/a 1848-1849; they were listed in the U.S. Census for 1850, as being in AR. Is there a link here. Thanks, Maribette in Hot Springs, AR

Most of my info on Reuben is in the rootsweb archives. I have recently acquired a little more and will post when I get it reorganized. In the meantime, you can check my prior posts in the Rootsweb archives. To get there: go to http://www.rootsweb.com scroll down the page (almost halfway) and click "Interactive Search" type in "Martin" and click type in anything that might be in the message, including the spouse names, children names, or even the contributor's name, into the query box, then scroll down to the list of years (1996, etc). one at a time, select a year and click search. Will add that our listowners should be thanked for what I am sure is a lot of contributed work. Also, give some thought to having private e-mail correspondence to chit-chat and combine your information with those you think might have contact with your family; then post it to the list. We surely don't want to cram the webspace any sooner than is probably going to happen.

I think we have had enough discussion about the rules. Rules are rules and we just need to follow them. Thanks, Sharon On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:58:02 -0500 "Billie Lewis" <walnbrl@gate.net> writes: > I think all of us need the rules. I belong to a number of lists and > thought > they all had the same type of management and aim - - to share > infomation on > families. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ROOZOO8@aol.com> > To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:25 PM > Subject: [MARTIN-L] Re "The Rules" > > > > Julia- > > My most humble apologies. I have never seen a list of "the rules". > I > > apologize if I have stepped on some toes here. I also did not know > that > you > > were the "list owner" as you have never contacted me. If I have > > inconvenienced you I am very sorry. The other list I am on has > over 225 > > members that responded and it worked well. I stand corrected. If > there are > > any other rules I would appreciate you posting them to me so I do > not > venture > > into forbidden territory again. > > For the others on this list I also apologize to you if I have > gotten > you > > in hot water. > > Margaret > > > >

Rootsweb has an acceptable use policy. As list maintainers and list subscribers we have promised to follow the AUP. If anyone has questions as to why things are allowed or not allowed they should go to www.rootsweb.com and look for the link concerning this. It has long been a standard on any of Rootsweb's 22,000+ lists that roll calls are initiated by the list minder...this is to keep archival space to as much a minimum as possible. They are used to promote list activity...this list seems active without one. Joyce Gaston Reece Rootsweb Mail Administer for Meigs Co, TN, South East TN, North East TN, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hembree, Knuckles Message Board Administrator for Gaston, Shields, Reece, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hembree, Knuckles & Daugherty

I am trying to find the ancestors of Mariah Martin b 2-6-1810 in Va and d 5-7-1878 in Hampshire Co W Va. She married Peter Asbury Saville. Anything appreciated.

I have received much info from contacting folks who post roll calls to lists.

The problem is not posting your information, the problem is not using a viable subject line to describe that information. The words Roll Call are not informative. Put a name, date and geographical location in the subject line and it might ring a bell for someone. And for those of us to which it does not apply, we will not waste our time reading information that does not apply to our research. Please remember, some of us belong to multiple lists and we receive more than 100 msgs. a day. Clarity is the key whether you got 10 messages or 50. Let's follow the rules. They are good ones and were established from experience. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JLWLRob@aol.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] Re "The Rules" > I may get kicked off this list but if we can't post info such as Julia did, > then how are we going to share our information as well as find out more about > our family? I thought this was the idea behind "the lists". > > As a long-time researcher and one who shares, please explain to all of us > what the difference is in a "roll call" and labelling it that...OR...just > posting several generations of our family in order to obtain more where we > have blank places. > > Jean in Arizona >

In a message dated 1/14/02 4:58:57 PM Central Standard Time, JLWLRob@aol.com writes: << As a long-time researcher and one who shares, please explain to all of us what the difference is in a "roll call" and labelling it that...OR...just posting several generations of our family in order to obtain more where we have blank places. >> For the third and, I hope, last time, the difference is the subject line, and the fact that you haven't asked everyone to post at one time. Pleeeeease, not one more message on this subject. Julia

**Fellow Listers, I had sent an e-mail to Julia at her personal addy as to not take up space on the list. In that e-mail I explained that some of us have nothing more than a name and place to go on and that a Roll Call sometimes opens doors more than a posting of just a name and place, as it gives us all a chance to "find" people that may have a connection based on migration patterns, etc. Well....guess she didn't like me contacting her, and I was reminded very quickly that is his her way or no way. Net etiquette??? Wow! Anyhow, I am sharing with you the reply I received from Julia. Julia, Excuse me????? I had NOT posted to the roll call.....was merely sharing my thoughts with you on this matter. And notice, I shared my thoughts (originally) with you personally.....not on the list to take up space and time! Sometimes a post gets no response regardless of the subject line. Been there, done that. However, I was under the impression that this was a list for ALL Martin researchers. Obviously, the underlings beneath the LISTOWNER are not allowed to have thoughts. Oh well, I knew nothing about Pearlie May Martin prior to my experience with Martin-L and I still know nothing. Still have no clue as to who her parents were, although I know she had a brother Walter that married a Sigmon also (but I learned this from a cousin, not the list). Fellow listers, I appreciate all the help and guidance you have given, but I'm done. If anyone would like to correspond with me directly regarding this particular line of Martin's in the Callaway/Ferrum area of VA, please do so. I've enjoyed learning about the various lines.....as I've read each post. Good luck in your research! Lisa JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/14/2002 2:59:00 PM Central Standard Time, > mtnmama4@mounet.com writes: > > > >> For some of us, a >> roll call is the only way of breaking out of the "main" families >> that are >> discussed day after day, post after post. And no, it sometimes does >> not do any >> good to just post your info. that you have. However, through >> someone's roll > > If you put your family in the subject line, everyone can see it, and > whomever connects will respond. You can't except more than that. I > have been here for many years, and have yet to find anyone researching > my line. That can't be helped. You can do more with a ROLL CALL with > nothing in the subject line except ROLL CALL. > > Now, for the last time. Either change the subject line, or don't post > to the list. > > Julia

ASA FRANKLIN SHINN b. 21 Sep 1860 Marion Co., Mo. and d. 25 Sep 1934 married on 8 Feb 1888 Vermilion Co., Il. to ELIZABETH MARTIN b. 12 Jun 1861 Vermilion Co., Il. Source: LDS Ancestral File Colleen Kitch GuyCol@webtv.net

Hi Dave, I had been researching my Martin line and came across the following information onn the Revolutionary War Claims. Claim No. S33057 on Comfort , (Pvt. MA) b.23 Dec 1751,(baptized 30 Oct 1756, "Attleboro births) Attleboro MA, in 1826, after the war moved to Douglass, Worcester County, MA. Entered service 1 Jan 1776, Company of Capt. Oliver Pond, Regiment of Col. Joseph Read, Brigade of Gen. Heath, MA line. I also have him marrying Skusanna Cummins 28 May 1777. Claim No. S5056 on Amos b.l5 Sep 1754, (baptized 30 Oct 1756, "Attleboro births") Attleboro, MA, after the war he moved to Rehoboth, MA. I have an Amos marrying Esther Chafee 19 Mar 1757. Two children mentioned: Joel and Daniel. I don't know if any of this is pertinent to your line, but thought you might be interested. Best wishes John Dave Martin wrote: > Any Info on: > Amos Martin b 1750 Rehoboth MA and all of his Children > Comfort Martin b ca 1750 Rehoboth MA and his kids > Amos Martin b ca 1789 ??and wife Elizabeth Hennessee b ca 1795 Burk CO NC > Amos on Warren CO TN census 1820, Effingham CO IL census 1830, 40, > Elizabeth hennesse on Sebastian CO AR census 1860 > > Love to find someone with this info will be delighted to share. > > Dave Martin > 713-772-1417 > 713-772-8839 FAX

I may get kicked off this list but if we can't post info such as Julia did, then how are we going to share our information as well as find out more about our family? I thought this was the idea behind "the lists". As a long-time researcher and one who shares, please explain to all of us what the difference is in a "roll call" and labelling it that...OR...just posting several generations of our family in order to obtain more where we have blank places. Jean in Arizona

I belong many different surname list and this first time I have seen No Roll. I have seen Host of the surname mailing roll call Is this something new. janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "mtnmama4" <mtnmama4@mounet.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] From the Listowner, No rollcalls > **Fellow Listers, > I had sent an e-mail to Julia at her personal addy as to not take up > space on the list. In that e-mail I explained that some of us have > nothing more than a name and place to go on and that a Roll Call > sometimes opens doors more than a posting of just a name and place, as > it gives us all a chance to "find" people that may have a connection > based on migration patterns, etc. Well....guess she didn't like me > contacting her, and I was reminded very quickly that is his her way or > no way. Net etiquette??? Wow! Anyhow, I am sharing with you the reply > I received from Julia. > > Julia, > > Excuse me????? I had NOT posted to the roll call.....was merely sharing > my thoughts with you on this matter. And notice, I shared my thoughts > (originally) with you personally.....not on the list to take up space > and time! Sometimes a post gets no response regardless of the subject > line. Been there, done that. However, I was under the impression that > this was a list for ALL Martin researchers. Obviously, the underlings > beneath the LISTOWNER are not allowed to have thoughts. Oh well, I knew > nothing about Pearlie May Martin prior to my experience with Martin-L > and I still know nothing. Still have no clue as to who her parents > were, although I know she had a brother Walter that married a Sigmon > also (but I learned this from a cousin, not the list). Fellow listers, > I appreciate all the help and guidance you have given, but I'm done. If > anyone would like to correspond with me directly regarding this > particular line of Martin's in the Callaway/Ferrum area of VA, please > do so. I've enjoyed learning about the various lines.....as I've read > each post. Good luck in your research! > Lisa > > JULIAFWOOD@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 01/14/2002 2:59:00 PM Central Standard Time, > > mtnmama4@mounet.com writes: > > > > > > > >> For some of us, a > >> roll call is the only way of breaking out of the "main" families > >> that are > >> discussed day after day, post after post. And no, it sometimes does > >> not do any > >> good to just post your info. that you have. However, through > >> someone's roll > > > > If you put your family in the subject line, everyone can see it, and > > whomever connects will respond. You can't except more than that. I > > have been here for many years, and have yet to find anyone researching > > my line. That can't be helped. You can do more with a ROLL CALL with > > nothing in the subject line except ROLL CALL. > > > > Now, for the last time. Either change the subject line, or don't post > > to the list. > > > > Julia > > >

Julia- My most humble apologies. I have never seen a list of "the rules". I apologize if I have stepped on some toes here. I also did not know that you were the "list owner" as you have never contacted me. If I have inconvenienced you I am very sorry. The other list I am on has over 225 members that responded and it worked well. I stand corrected. If there are any other rules I would appreciate you posting them to me so I do not venture into forbidden territory again. For the others on this list I also apologize to you if I have gotten you in hot water. Margaret

William Sherrod Martin Born March 29, 1878. Beebe, Arkansas Died Dec 11, 1965 Applied for Soc Sec card 12/5/1936 While working for Brown Hardware & Seed Co. in Conway, Arkansas Soc Sec # 429-05-417 Lived at 1419 College Ave.Conway, Arkansas Married: Mary Jeffie Wallace. Possible relatives in Champagne, IL. Taught Sunday School at First Baptist Church in Conway, Ark.