Frederica My Shields connection came thru Virginia, into Sevier Co, TN (before it was Sevier Co), on to Jefferson Co, IL then back to Sevier County. He was born, at least before 1770, possibly 1744. I'm not sure. Can't pinpoint him definately. I am told that the 10 brothers that migrated into Sevier Co had descendants that went into Mississippi and Alabama also. I would have to send you to the Shields Mail list to get more difinitive info. The only info I have concerning Return J. Meigs is that which is available on the Monroe County web site. www.tngenweb.org/monroe Those records are the ones he kept while agent for the Cherokee's. Joyce Gaston Reece Rootsweb Mail Administer for Meigs Co, TN, South East TN, North East TN, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hembree, Knuckles Message Board Administrator for Gaston, Shields, Reece, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hembree, Knuckles & Daugherty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Fredreica Speyer" <speyer@bellsouth.net> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:21 PM Subject: [MARTIN-L] Martin Meigs & Shields - Joyce Gaston Reece > NOTE: I have set my Outlook filter to block any message that has ROLL > CALL in the subject line so I don't have to waste my time downloading > this boring drivel!! > > Dear Joyce - My ancestor, John Bethune MARTIN, was born about 1791 in > Moore Co., NC and had several children. Of those, Atlas Jones MARTIN > who was born in 1820 in Moore Co., NC and died in Dallas Co., AL > married Harriette SHIELDS, daughter of Elizabeth Paulling of > Orangeburg, SC and John SHIELDS of Kershaw Co., SC, but born in Moore > Co., NC. This SHIELDS family came to the Dallas, Perry. Autauga, > Marengo, Wilcox county areas in Alabama and farmed. A William B. > SHIELDS, believed to be the brother of my John also settled in the > area. John B. MARTIN and his wife Nancy Hill Harris settled in Holly > Springs, Marshall Co., MS by the 1840 census. Another of John B. > MARTIN's children, Mary Bethune MARTIN, married first a Robert Dortch > and second a James L. MEIGS, who was descended for Return Jonathon > MEIGS. Holly Springs is right down the road from Memphis, TN. If any > of my MARTIN, SHIELDS or MEIGS family sound familiar, please let me > know. I have more info on them. Thanks! Fredreica > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > Rootsweb Mail Administer for > > Meigs Co, TN, South East TN, North East TN, > > Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hembree, Knuckles > > Message Board Administrator for > > Gaston, Shields, Reece, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, > > Hembree, Knuckles & Daugherty > > >

Margae, In my database, I have Alice Martin listed as a brother of William H. Martin (who was born in Lawrence County, TN). They are listed as the children of Lewis H. Martin and Ales Gramling Martin. Alice Martin was born in 1829 in TN. She married Robert S. Stout on 7-4-1875 in Sullivan County, MO. I know only part of this matches with your information. I do not have John Thomas Overstreet, or a Malissa (Melissa) Martin in my database. In checking my LDS 1880 census CDs, I found Allice M. Overstreete (b. 1849, Illinois) living with John G. Overstreete; there were a bunch of children and also George Martin, age 23 years in the household. They were living in Medicine, Putnam, MO. Alice's father was born in KY; no information about her mother. There was also a Mellissa Overstreet (born 1847 in MO) married to Charles T. Overstreet living in Clay, Sullivan, MO. Her father was born in SC and her mother was born in TN. There is also a William H. Martin, age 59 years, with wife Nancy and mother Annie, listed as living in Jackson, Linn, MO in the 1880 census. Since I am a descendant of James Frost Martin, I would be very interested in getting a copy of the letter you have about this family. Jan Lowe Minneapolis In a message dated 1/13/02 5:43:17 PM Central Standard Time, ROOZOO8@aol.com writes: > I am researching a William H. Martin. > Still waiting to hear from national archives about my William > H.Martin > birthplace Tennesee. (Part of the Moultrie, Illinois bunch.) Will let you > know when I get an answer. > I am still searching for an Alice Marinda Martin married to John Thomas > Overstreet. Cannot find her parents. John Thomas Overstreet had a brother, > Charles Thaddeus Overstreet married to a Malissa or Melissa G. Martin. > Cannot > find her family either. Alice Marinda was born in Illinois in 1849. Malissa > was born 1847. Sisters? Cousins? > I believe this Alice Marinda is related to Lewis Martin, brother of > James Frost Martin and son of John and Isabella Martin. Do you have any > other > info or advice about where to look? I have lettters mentioning Lewis, his > wife Ales, his children,his brother Phillip, brother John, and his parents, > John and Isabella, whom they called Sarah. So I know I am connected to this > family, just can't seem to get that last link.I believe Alice Marinda was > Lewis's granchild but cannot find any records of her siblings or a > connection > to her parents. > Thanks! > Margae >

About 2 years ago I was in contact with a web site that had REV JAMES "JIMMY" MARTIN picture in it.------I had a crash and lost the address---can any one help me-------I think the owner of the site was from Ala------he was out of the MIDDLETON MARTIN line-----thanks jec

Hi Jan! If this is actually "Gremling", which it probably is as my former father-in-law had advised it was spelt that way in the ould days, it would be an absolute riot!! My family are Martins and my childhood sweetheart whom I married (sadly divorced later) is a Gremling. Now, this Gramling-Martin union was born in 1812 and was problably indirectly responsible for the War of 1812 itself if the relationship between my Martins and Gremlings is any indication of that union!! My mum and my father-in-law, God rest them, would be spinning in their graves at the thought! What a fun "discovery", if it is such! Ah, stories I could tell you..... Thanks! Maureen > Absolutely. I find misspellings all of the time. I have not researched Ales > Gramling (Gremling), just taken it from another resource and added it to my > family tree. > > Jan Lowe > Minneapolis > > > > > Hello Jan, > > Is there a possiblility that Ales Gramling was mispelled from "Gremling"? > > If so, that puts my Gremling-Martin line farther back than I thought. > > > > Thanks, > > Maureen > > > > > >

Hello Jan, Is there a possiblility that Ales Gramling was mispelled from "Gremling"? If so, that puts my Gremling-Martin line farther back than I thought. Thanks, Maureen > Margae, > > In my database, I have Alice Martin listed as a brother of William H. Martin > (who was born in Lawrence County, TN). They are listed as the children of > Lewis H. Martin and Ales Gramling Martin. >

NOTE: I have set my Outlook filter to block any message that has ROLL CALL in the subject line so I don't have to waste my time downloading this boring drivel!! Dear Joyce - My ancestor, John Bethune MARTIN, was born about 1791 in Moore Co., NC and had several children. Of those, Atlas Jones MARTIN who was born in 1820 in Moore Co., NC and died in Dallas Co., AL married Harriette SHIELDS, daughter of Elizabeth Paulling of Orangeburg, SC and John SHIELDS of Kershaw Co., SC, but born in Moore Co., NC. This SHIELDS family came to the Dallas, Perry. Autauga, Marengo, Wilcox county areas in Alabama and farmed. A William B. SHIELDS, believed to be the brother of my John also settled in the area. John B. MARTIN and his wife Nancy Hill Harris settled in Holly Springs, Marshall Co., MS by the 1840 census. Another of John B. MARTIN's children, Mary Bethune MARTIN, married first a Robert Dortch and second a James L. MEIGS, who was descended for Return Jonathon MEIGS. Holly Springs is right down the road from Memphis, TN. If any of my MARTIN, SHIELDS or MEIGS family sound familiar, please let me know. I have more info on them. Thanks! Fredreica > > Joyce Gaston Reece > Rootsweb Mail Administer for > Meigs Co, TN, South East TN, North East TN, > Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hembree, Knuckles > Message Board Administrator for > Gaston, Shields, Reece, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, > Hembree, Knuckles & Daugherty

Hi Martin Liners, Specifically, Saratoga and Washington counties. I would like to share info with anyone seeking Martins named Robert. Trudy

Hello fellow Martin's, It's been a while since I last posted . I am still looking for my Martin's. Daniel Martin & Rebecca (England) Martin with about six(6) children migrated from White Co. TN. to Van Buren AR. in 1848. They are listed on the 1850 Van Buren census. Any info. on his & her parents or siblings would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Richard Moore Researching: Moore's,Martin's,Bostian's,Cogbill's,Newby's,Norwood's,Evan's.

UNSUBSCRIBE -----Original Message----- From: Donna Hull [mailto:dmhull@frazmtn.com] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:40 PM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARTIN-L] Re: Roll Call in the subject line Joyce-- Right you are!! BUT there are so many variations of what is acceptable--none of my others are this strict, And even the others vary a great deal in what the list owner will allow within the AUP. Maybe I should learn how to read minds. Donna All Martin mail list subscribers, as it is with all rootsweb subscribers, to Rootsweb's over 22,000 mail lists should be made aware of Rootsweb's Acceptable Use Policy. This can be located at www.rootsweb.com Everyone agrees to abide by the AUP when one subs to any rootsweb list. -- ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø Every time I find an ancestor I need to find two more! ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø

Joyce-- Right you are!! BUT there are so many variations of what is acceptable--none of my others are this strict, And even the others vary a great deal in what the list owner will allow within the AUP. Maybe I should learn how to read minds. Donna All Martin mail list subscribers, as it is with all rootsweb subscribers, to Rootsweb's over 22,000 mail lists should be made aware of Rootsweb's Acceptable Use Policy. This can be located at www.rootsweb.com Everyone agrees to abide by the AUP when one subs to any rootsweb list. -- ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø Every time I find an ancestor I need to find two more! ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø

Please unsubscribe me -----Original Message----- From: KATNKEV5458@aol.com [mailto:KATNKEV5458@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 1:31 PM To: MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARTIN-L] unsubscribe IM sorry I have to back out of this list. But IM subscribed to multiple lists and I can not read every email. It seems this list does not know how to change the SUBJECT LINE Kathy "Kath" (Burden) Shaffer Omaha, NE >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^<

Here are the names and dates for my William Martin and his family: William Martin...........1820--13/Feb/1860 Sarah A. Martin..........29 Sept/1824 Nancy J. Martin...........1 May/1843 Martha E. Martin & Mary E. Martin............19 Jan/1846 Susannah Martin...........19 Nov/1848 Henry K. Martin...........1 July/1850 (my great grandfather) Talitha C. Martin...........16 Sept/1852 Sallie L. Martin..............28 Feb/1857 Julia A. Martin...............7 Jan/1860 I've just been researching my family since last August and know very little about my Martin lines. This information came from 4 pages of a family Bible I received from my grandmother (Henry K's daughter). Henry's mother or Sarah's mother was a Ketron from VA. The earliest date on these pages is 19 May/1775. Needless to say I have them in an acid-free protective covering. I've no idea what became of the 7 Martin girls. But that's another puzzle for me. Do you have any idea about where in TN your William and Sarah lived? Linda in Yorktown, VA

In a message dated 1/19/2002 1:19:22 PM Central Standard Time, CMJPlayboy@aol.com writes: Cant the list administrater delete some of these that get replied to over and over again without changing subject line. if enough get removed maybe everyone will get the message. I have no idea how much I may have been able This list has a very able list administrator and I imagine that she will respond but I also manage some Rootsweb mail lists and thought I might put my 2 cents worth in. Hope you don't mind. This concern about the subject line is a concern on so many lists and causes so much discussion. You have all heard the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." As list managers we can post hints, advice, and even rules but we are not sitting right there with that person when those messages are typed. So much of what goes on with any list is dependent upon the folks on that list. You are right - it is so much better for everyone if folks would change the subject line to reflect the content of their message. They might get a better response and it would be helpful to others on the list. But... sorry... some folks just don't do it. As for your question about the list manager deleting any message with an incorrect subject line before it hits the list. That is possible in that the list manager can put this list on moderated status. That would mean that ALL mail would automatically go to the list manager - that manager would then have to read all the mail - make a decision concerning its appropriateness to the list - and then send it on to the list. Now let's think about that for a moment. You folks are upset because your mailbox contains messages with inappropriate subject lines and you feel that it wastes your time. Can you imagine what this would do to the manager's mail box and how much time the manager would need to take to do this? They deal with the folks who sometimes aren't too nice, they often get yelled at, they weed through all the spam aimed at the list and diverted by the rootsweb system, etc. all on a volunteer status. Putting the list on moderated status also means that the mail would not be sent until the list manager could read it. Thus it would be delayed. In my case, it would be each evening as I work. Most list managers deal with more than one mail list. They also have families and many work. I would hate to add the extra burden of moderating the list to our list manager's plate. So let's try again - here are some hints that might make your posting to any mail list more efficient. 1. Please change the subject line to reflect the topic. 2. It is helpful to put surnames in all caps. 3. Please include dates and locations if known. There are a lot of "Charles Martin" folks out there in various locations at various times. AND... thanks for listening. Take care - Emma

Hi all, I too am a list manager and you do not want a moderated list. If one is truly interested in finding lost relatives, a quick review of each email message can be done without taking much time. The delete button works real good when needed. Emma, I don't know how many are on this list, but I only saw two messages that were fussing. That's a small number if the list has hundreds. Of course, you and I are causing Spam by writing but that's ok too. Carl Martin Matthews 7:7 ctm007@hal-pc.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENC6@aol.com> To: <MARTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] for the list administrater | In a message dated 1/19/2002 1:19:22 PM Central Standard Time, | CMJPlayboy@aol.com writes: | | | Cant the list administrater delete some of these that get replied to over and | over again without changing subject line. if enough get removed maybe | everyone will get the message. I have no idea how much I may have been able | | | This list has a very able list administrator and I imagine that she will | respond but I also manage some Rootsweb mail lists and thought I might put my | 2 cents worth in. Hope you don't mind. | This concern about the subject line is a concern on so many lists and causes | so much discussion. You have all heard the old saying "you can lead a horse | to water but you can't make him drink." As list managers we can post hints, | advice, and even rules but we are not sitting right there with that person | when those messages are typed. So much of what goes on with any list is | dependent upon the folks on that list. | You are right - it is so much better for everyone if folks would change the | subject line to reflect the content of their message. They might get a | better response and it would be helpful to others on the list. But... | sorry... some folks just don't do it. | As for your question about the list manager deleting any message with an | incorrect subject line before it hits the list. That is possible in that the | list manager can put this list on moderated status. That would mean that ALL | mail would automatically go to the list manager - that manager would then | have to read all the mail - make a decision concerning its appropriateness to | the list - and then send it on to the list. | Now let's think about that for a moment. You folks are upset because your | mailbox contains messages with inappropriate subject lines and you feel that | it wastes your time. Can you imagine what this would do to the manager's | mail box and how much time the manager would need to take to do this? They | deal with the folks who sometimes aren't too nice, they often get yelled at, | they weed through all the spam aimed at the list and diverted by the rootsweb | system, etc. all on a volunteer status. | Putting the list on moderated status also means that the mail would not be | sent until the list manager could read it. Thus it would be delayed. In my | case, it would be each evening as I work. Most list managers deal with more | than one mail list. They also have families and many work. I would hate to | add the extra burden of moderating the list to our list manager's plate. | So let's try again - here are some hints that might make your posting to any | mail list more efficient. | 1. Please change the subject line to reflect the topic. | 2. It is helpful to put surnames in all caps. | 3. Please include dates and locations if known. There are a lot of "Charles | Martin" folks out there in various locations at various times. | AND... thanks for listening. | Take care - Emma | |

ref this e-mail IM sorry I have to back out of this list. But IM subscribed to multiple lists and I can not read every email. It seems this list does not know how to change the SUBJECT LINE Cant the list administrater delete some of these that get replied to over and over again without changing subject line. if enough get removed maybe everyone will get the message. I have no idea how much I may have been able to help someone ,or they could have helped me. I use the DELETE KEY A LOT!!!! I get a lot of e-mail and only read the ones that look like to have some interest to me. I am sure a lot of others also do the same. Fred Martin, Martins of Germana Va.,Fuller and Tucker in PA

IM sorry I have to back out of this list. But IM subscribed to multiple lists and I can not read every email. It seems this list does not know how to change the SUBJECT LINE Kathy "Kath" (Burden) Shaffer Omaha, NE >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^<

What county in TN I had a James Martin in Lincoln County in 1820 with his oldest son name William that Migrated to Alabama in 1823.

Hello, These Martin's were my great great grandparents-- they had only one child, to my knowledge: Frances (Fanny) Albert Martin, b July 1, 1852 in eastern AR. Maribette in Hot Springs, AR

Thanks, they aren't the ones that I am looking for. Karen --- Maribette@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > These Martin's were my great great > grandparents-- they had only one > child, to my knowledge: Frances (Fanny) Albert > Martin, b July 1, 1852 in > eastern AR. > > Maribette in Hot Springs, AR > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

I was wondering if you had the children of the following Martins? Karen --- Maribette@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/13/2002 9:37:29 PM Central > Standard Time, > billcyphers@erols.com writes: > > > > billcyphers@erols.com (BILL CYPHERS) > > > > Hello, > I don't recall if we have communicated before, but I > saw your listing with > the entry for William Martin (TN) 1820 and Sarah A. > Martin 1824. > I am researching a William Albert Martin and his > wife, Sarah, who left TN and > relocated in Poinsett Co. AR on the land of a David > Cross o/a 1848-1849; they > were listed in the U.S. Census for 1850, as being in > AR. > Is there a link here. > Thanks, > Maribette in Hot Springs, AR > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/