In the 1850 census of Hamilton Co., TN there are two listings for Surletha Martin. Now that is not a name we find just every day. My great grandmother, Surletha Ann Martin b. 1828 is listed in the household of Dabney Martin her brother on page477 of Dist. 27. On page 458 in Dist. 27 there is a Fanua Martin b. 1800 and a Serletha Martin b. 1828. Does any one have any info. regarding Fanua and Serletha? Just any suggestions would be helpful. For those that are interested in reading farther: The 1850 Census re: my great grandmother has a strange pattern. Her father and mother were Tavner and Cynthia Martin. For some reason the census taker listed Tavner and Cynthia in one household and their children in the next one. One of those strange flukes of the census. There are several descendants of Tavner and Cynthia that are searching for Tavner's parents. The two had 11 children and most of them were named after Cynthia's family (the Leagues). Surletha is not a League name and we are hoping it is a clue as to Tavner's family. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated by all of us who are stuck as to Tavner's parents. El Gringo Viejo the Transplanted Okie Paul R. L. Vance

I've "rescued" an old marriage certificate belonging to Edward MUNROE of Beverly, Massachusetts and his bride Sarah A. MARTIN also of Beverly, MA. The couple was married on the 27th of November 1867 in Manchester, MA. Edward MUNROE is said to be the son of Edward MUNROE and Betsy JACOBS, 39 years old at the time of the marriage, his 2nd. Edward lists his place of birth as Danvers, MA and his occupation as Shoemaker. Sarah A. MARTIN is the daughter of Geo P. MARTIN and Sally L. CARTER, age 36 at the time of the marriage, her 1st. Sarah lists her place of birth as Manchester, MA. Attached to the certificate is an obituary for Edward MUNROE listing him as the identical twin brother of James MUNROE. It is not dated, however, it notes that he was the working as the janitor at the Briscoe School at the time of his death and was Sexton of St. Peter's Church. Based on limited research I did find evidence of Edward MUNROE b. 7 Aug 1828 at Beverly, MA, though I did not find anything more on the couple or their families. I'm hoping to locate someone from their family so that this wonderful piece of family history can be restored to the family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

My James Houston MARTIN stayed in TN all his life except, if the census is to be believed, he went to AR sometime between 1850 and 1860. One of the children Johial was born in AR in 1854/55 but he was in TN in the 1850 and 1860 census. His son James Washington Martin fought for the Union. James stayed in TN too. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/19/05 17:25:04 To: [email protected] Subject: [MARTIN-L] Civil war pension After the Civil War a lot of soilders went to fl. to live. There were several from al. I think there was a James Hustin Martin from Alabama but I wouldn`t swear to it, but do know there were some from Barbour co. and other counties. These are online http://dlis.dos.state.fl.us/barm/PensionFiles.html Barbara -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005

Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: [MARTIN-L] I want to stop all this e-mail > None of this e-mail has anything to do with the Martin line O a I am interested in. Nobody can find my question, because I cannot find it either. I want out > >

After the Civil War a lot of soilders went to fl. to live. There were several from al. I think there was a James Hustin Martin from Alabama but I wouldn`t swear to it, but do know there were some from Barbour co. and other counties. These are online http://dlis.dos.state.fl.us/barm/PensionFiles.html Barbara

None of this e-mail has anything to do with the Martin line O a I am interested in. Nobody can find my question, because I cannot find it either. I want out

Hi I am new to this list. I am looking for parents and siblings of Samuel Houston MARTIN b. abt. 1814 in TN. According to the 1880 census his father was from NC and his mother from TN. He was marr. on Nov 2 1839 to Rebecca Bryant in White Co TN. Rebecca is the dau of James BRYANT and Jane GENTRY. He (I think) was Hustin MARTIN in the 1840 census of White Co TN. It was the correct age for he and Rebecca and no children listed. Their first child was Amanda b. in 1841. In 1850, they were listed in the Jackson Co TN census. In 1850 they were listed in the Putnam Co TN census. Samuel d. in 1891 in Putnam Co and Rebecca d. bet. 1900 & 1910 in Putnam Co. Rebecca and Samuel's ages changed with every census. They were born somewhere between 1812 and 1824. I think they were both born 1814. Their children were James Washington, John Vance, Jesse Lafayette, Johial/Jahial, Amanda C, Martha A, Mary Sophronia, Rebecca, Millie Frances, Manner/Minerva Jane. I would appreciate any help anyone has to offer. Thank you Peggy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005

This message was sent to me, rather than to the Martin list. Julia List Adm. In a message dated 3/19/2005 12:01:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Looking for info on Phillip M. Martin , he married Rebecca Lee 1n1855, St. Clair Co.,Al. He was from S.C. garlene holland [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) EarthLink Revolves Around You.

I received my papers from Kathy today. Thought everyone interested should know. Jane

The point no one is saying is "so what"? I have all the books and a database of 80,000 + names in chelsea revere and winthrop. I research denning dever cogan carroll mchugh malone. So you find a denning. lets say 12 nov 1853 In search of Patrick DENNING from Pullboy St.,Navan [Co.Meath] when last heard from [3 yrs ago] was in Plattsburg ,N.Y. Any information will be thankfully recieved by by his cousin Patrick DENNING ,Oswego,N.Y.- and you are looking for a patrick "WOW I FOUND MY HIT" even the new poster on George W. IN N.Y. today could get excited about this . but what does it say? that the patrick who was in meath is thought to have been in Plattsburg 3 yrs ago. Which patrick? I have 31 just in my database? The best story to get this point across is a women wrote the clerk of chelsea . asking for the birth certificate for James Denning born between 1878 and 1883.The clerk wrote back which one we have seven of them.I have 3000 mass dennings at least 2200 are from chelsea. And you find a Patrick or a James who is being looked for by his brother john and sisters margaret catherine and mary. Good luck every pat or james has a brother john and sisters margaret catherine and mary. just be careful before you jump on something that looks like your answer to a prayer Btw i searched denning and didnt get the hits i knew were there . the search engine missed them Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

Well, terrific. I hope I haven't repeated this mistake with any one else. Thank you for letting me know I blew this. My apologies to everyone that I failed to make sure the mailing list address was removed from the TO. v -------------- Original message -------------- > Uh, what you apparently meant to say was "...[P]lease do not share my > words with anyone else, except for everyone subscribed to this list." > > [email protected] wrote: > > >Barbara, > >Thank you for the reply you sent to me (below). I wanted to get back to you > with how it turned out with Kathy. Sad to say, as of today, she has > demonstrated unethical practices, demeanor, and frankly, to be an outright lier. > I had hoped there would have been a way she and I could have worked out a > resolution and she did offer a very reasonable one. > > > >However, upon my accepting her resolution, she emailed me back with a > completely different story than she reported to me in February on the status of > my pension file. She said she will be refunding my money, but that is to be > seen. > > > >I just wanted you to know that it has washed out that she did not just lie to > me but had no intention of ever sending me the file or refunding my money or > contacting me again for that matter. The list administrator has performed a > great service to all of us on the board to help get to the truth in this matter > and protect all of us from any such experience [with Kathy] in the future. I > write this to you in private between us, please do not share my words with > anyone else. > >Best regards, > >Vicky > >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > >>I think it was around Jan. 19 the last time I hearded from Kathy. > >> > >>Barbara > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >

If you are not satisfied or feel something was not quite right with your dealings with Kathy, or the findings she provided to you, then Cancel that second check now. Don't walk, but run to the telephone, computer or your bank, cancel that check now. Try contacting her and see if she replies. Just my two cents worth. -------------- Original message -------------- > Kathy cashed my first small check, then sent me an email saying her > research was finished and I was to send her the rest of the amount she had > requested. She hasn't cashed the second check yet. > Jane > > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 03/17/05 22:30:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] National Archives Research > > I for one have sent several emails to Kathy Wolfe and have received no > response. I am gathering copies of my cancelled check and emails exchanged > with her > in preparation for filing a complaint. Since the amounts are rather small I > would suggest we all file with the same Federal Agency at about the same > time. > > With the load the U.S. Attorney's office must be carrying at this time, I > believe they would forward the investigation to the US Postal Inspector's > Office > in DC. I would like to hear from others in this regard. I have had good > results with the Postal Service in the past. There is no reason we should > stand > by and be a party to this type of situation even if the individual amounts > are > rather small. John Kulbeth > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 >

Bob, I said that I would let you know if I heard from Kathy. I have. I hope that she has individually contacted you also and your situation has been resolved to your satisfaction. My situation is not satisfactory. As of today, we have terminated our agreement and it is to be seen if I will indeed receive a refund. She was not honest with me on a number of things. So, I wanted to let you know and give you a headsup on her questionable integrity. Hopefully you will be spared what I have been put through all week. I wish you a better result. Best regards, Vicky -------------- Original message -------------- > Still waiting also. > She told me on 2/14 that it was taking longer than usual. > Here's hoping.. > Bob > > Bob Martin > Connecticut USA > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:01 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] Military Research at the National Archives > > > >List readers: > >Does anyone know this Kathryn Wolfe who made the offer to search and send > >pension files located at the National Archives? Some of you may remember > her > >original message posted to this list in January 2005. > > > >I contacted her and sent her money to obtain a pension file. She emailed me > on or > >about February 14 that she had found the file and would view and copy it > that next > >Saturday and mail it to me. I have not heard from her since nor have I > received the > >file or my money back. I have sent her repeated emails asking for a status > or some > >kind of reply. I have not hear back from her. > > > >I am concerned that something may have happened to her. If anyone has been > in > >contact with her would you let me know or the list know what is the > situation. I would > >also suggest that anyone wanting to hire her to do a search wait until she > replies to > >the list that she is okay and able to resume conducting research. I hope > this > >message reaches Kathryn and that she will please contact me. > > > >The worse case scenario is one I do not want to mention or think about at > this time. > >Vicky > > > >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I live in Washington, D.C. and as such have access to the National > >> Archives. I'd be glad to do lookups and make copies > >> of wartime service and pension records (Revolution, Civil War, 1812, > >> Spanish-American, Philippines, Mexican and Indian wars), for a reasonable > >> fee (to cover my time and copy prices.) Going through the archives staff > >> can take months -- it'll take me about two weeks, in general, though > there > >> can be exceptions. And, of course, I am a real live person to interact > with > >> instead of a form. > >> I'm well-acquainted with research. I'm also a genealogist myself, > >> not a profiteer (I have a day job!). I'm only > >> offering because I love the topic and because I know how difficult it is > to > >> get ahold of these particular records, since they aren't all on > microfilm. > >> If anybody's interested, send me an email with your ancestor's name and > unit > >> served (if known), and I can give you some more information. > >> > >> Best, > >> Kathy Wolfe > >> > >> (Researching the Mersereau and Martin families of Middlesex Co., NJ.) > >> > >

Barbara, Thank you for the reply you sent to me (below). I wanted to get back to you with how it turned out with Kathy. Sad to say, as of today, she has demonstrated unethical practices, demeanor, and frankly, to be an outright lier. I had hoped there would have been a way she and I could have worked out a resolution and she did offer a very reasonable one. However, upon my accepting her resolution, she emailed me back with a completely different story than she reported to me in February on the status of my pension file. She said she will be refunding my money, but that is to be seen. I just wanted you to know that it has washed out that she did not just lie to me but had no intention of ever sending me the file or refunding my money or contacting me again for that matter. The list administrator has performed a great service to all of us on the board to help get to the truth in this matter and protect all of us from any such experience [with Kathy] in the future. I write this to you in private between us, please do not share my words with anyone else. Best regards, Vicky -------------- Original message -------------- > I think it was around Jan. 19 the last time I hearded from Kathy. > > Barbara >

Don't cancel that check as it will cost you $25.00. I will forward all your complaints to the proper person and I thing that you will hear from Kathy and get your money back. All of you who sent money and haven't heard from Kathy in the past two days, let me know, then wait for a few days and if you haven't heard from Kathy, let me know again. Julia In a message dated 3/17/2005 11:02:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: If you are not satisfied or feel something was not quite right with your dealings with Kathy, or the findings she provided to you, then Cancel that second check now. Don't walk, but run to the telephone, computer or your bank, cancel that check now. Try contacting her and see if she replies. Just my two cents worth.

I for one have sent several emails to Kathy Wolfe and have received no response. I am gathering copies of my cancelled check and emails exchanged with her in preparation for filing a complaint. Since the amounts are rather small I would suggest we all file with the same Federal Agency at about the same time. With the load the U.S. Attorney's office must be carrying at this time, I believe they would forward the investigation to the US Postal Inspector's Office in DC. I would like to hear from others in this regard. I have had good results with the Postal Service in the past. There is no reason we should stand by and be a party to this type of situation even if the individual amounts are rather small. John Kulbeth

Kathy cashed my first small check, then sent me an email saying her research was finished and I was to send her the rest of the amount she had requested. She hasn't cashed the second check yet. Jane -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/17/05 22:30:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MARTIN-L] National Archives Research I for one have sent several emails to Kathy Wolfe and have received no response. I am gathering copies of my cancelled check and emails exchanged with her in preparation for filing a complaint. Since the amounts are rather small I would suggest we all file with the same Federal Agency at about the same time. With the load the U.S. Attorney's office must be carrying at this time, I believe they would forward the investigation to the US Postal Inspector's Office in DC. I would like to hear from others in this regard. I have had good results with the Postal Service in the past. There is no reason we should stand by and be a party to this type of situation even if the individual amounts are rather small. John Kulbeth -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005

I sent a money order to Kathy about Jan. 20. Last week my mail carrier brought back my unclaimed money order. I was able to cash it in to get my money back. Just maybe she is sick or died?? ( She does not have to be a bad person) Donna > I have comsulted with my son who is an attorney and he says that Internet > fraud is the same as mail fraud. If you have been defrauded, you should > contact > the U.S. Attorney's office nearest you. You should have Kathy's name and > address and the stub from the money order which you sent and copies of > your > exchange of emails if possible. You can find her offer to do the research > in our > Martin list archives. > > Julia French Wood > List Adm. > > In a message dated 3/14/2005 7:01:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hello.....I also sent money to Kathy Wolfe about one month ago. Said two > weeks and I have not heard from her. She also is not returning email to > her. I > would suggest that since most of us used the US Mail Service that we ask > the > US Postal Department where she lives to check her for possible scam, etc. > She may have also contacted other sites?? John Kulbeth > > > >

Uh, what you apparently meant to say was "...[P]lease do not share my words with anyone else, except for everyone subscribed to this list." [email protected] wrote: >Barbara, >Thank you for the reply you sent to me (below). I wanted to get back to you with how it turned out with Kathy. Sad to say, as of today, she has demonstrated unethical practices, demeanor, and frankly, to be an outright lier. I had hoped there would have been a way she and I could have worked out a resolution and she did offer a very reasonable one. > >However, upon my accepting her resolution, she emailed me back with a completely different story than she reported to me in February on the status of my pension file. She said she will be refunding my money, but that is to be seen. > >I just wanted you to know that it has washed out that she did not just lie to me but had no intention of ever sending me the file or refunding my money or contacting me again for that matter. The list administrator has performed a great service to all of us on the board to help get to the truth in this matter and protect all of us from any such experience [with Kathy] in the future. I write this to you in private between us, please do not share my words with anyone else. >Best regards, >Vicky >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > >>I think it was around Jan. 19 the last time I hearded from Kathy. >> >>Barbara >> >> >> > > > >

Hello All, This is to report that Kathy Wolfe has been located and she should be contacting all persons who sent money to her for the NARA Research that she offered. If you do not hear from her, or you do not receive a satisfactory resolution to your contract with her, please, let me know. You may wish to demand the return of your money as she says that she will not be able to do the research for several weeks. Julia