This needs researched again. Something is not right. use Internet Explorer, click on the little tree icon by the name of person to see the chart. useless without chart. must view http://chipster.us/marshallFamily%20F%20BASE%202008/default.htm?page=messure-MarthaPoss3rdWife-ind00229.htm either 2 families or something were these women widows who had a married name and maiden name? These people did tend to closely marry again after a death. Women did die after birthing a lot. Wm Marshall m. Eliz. Cox was she also Austin?? 2 wives or 2 couples? Thos. Marshall m. Marg. Clewly is she also Marg Wells? 2 couples? is there 4 wives of this Thos.? poss Martha 3rd wife? any info on the Mary moved to Kent Delaware? This would be important. Why and with children? where did this come from? Thos. Jr m. Elizabeth Griffith and/or same? Elizabeth Sullivan is maiden Sullivan or Griffith? is married? Did Mr Griffith m. Sullivan and he died? vice versa there is unknown daughter m. Darby Sullivan there is a tree with the Eliz. Sullivan father Darby Sullivant mother Ann Dew. this is one of the base families in group F and it needs to be proper and fixed in order to figure it out I have only found the Clewly/ Chiley Cluly marriage in books along with the Stone family detailed. There are many books on the Stones. All of this ancestry.com stuff and web pages are conflicting please help sort the base Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: MARSHALL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:14 pm Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] Marshall's from Co Fermanagh This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RushingGray Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/3201.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The website looks very nice, though I couldn't find the William Henry Marshall/Jane Virtue marriage. Email me directly when you get the chance. brandongray1@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paisleybuddy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/3201.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am very interested to speak to you as we may have a link and I've been at a dead end for some years with this. William Henry Marshall os a big name in my family and I have traced the line back to tirmacspird in Ulster. I have a website www.family-lynx.com/marshall password 'tequila. Have a browse and look at the life story for William Marshall. I also have lots of research data and know of your William Henry & Jane Virtue marriage. Speak to you later as I'm just leaving for work ! Best regards Alan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RushingGray Surnames: Marshall/Sproule/Virtue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/3201.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I traced my ancestors back to a William Henry Marshall B. 1812 who married a Jane Virtue B. 1815. When they immigrated to the US in 1872 (thru NYC and eventually to Illinois)they moved from Tirmacspird in Fermanagh, Ulster, bringing with them 6 kids including my ancestor Jane Marshall. Also, of interest, Jane ended up marrying Oliver Sproule who was also from somewhere in Ulster (though I dont know where), but they married in the US. I really don't know anything past William Henry Marshall, but I am interested to here if you know of a connection with your family. BTW I have lots on their descendants if you are interested. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Stephen, I have some of the same questions you have, but I think you're both missing an important fact. When you have people with established pedigrees who provide their DNA markers and you have a "real close" match (what that means is exactly what you're trying to get to the bottom of) then you are likely (to some mathematical certainty) to come from some portion of that same lineage/pedigree. This pedigree is the "family" that is only hypothesized based on knowing the pedigree. If your markers are one off from the known pedigree then that's a "real close" match no matter how you look at it. Also, if you just have DNA matches without a known pedigree it doesn't get you anywhere except to know the haplogroup (which may lead to a general geographic location). v/r Terrell

Hi Joe, Thanks for the detailed reply. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places but I haven't been able to find answers to my question despite countless Google searches. I'm still puzzled about the criteria used to place testees into family groupings. Following is a set of 12 marker results for 6 fictitious individuals that might be considered as a single family group: 13 22 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 22 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 11 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 11 14 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 Each person matches on 11 of 12 markers with the person above and/or below on the list and there is a genetic distance of 1 on the marker that is not a match. Various websites explain the % chance of sharing a common ancestor within a certain number of generations where there is a genetic distance of 1. If they share a common surname that % should be the same for each of the 6 testees when comparing results with those immediately above or below but the % decreases as the genetic distance increases. There is a genetic distance of 5 between the first and last person so the chance of them sharing a common ancestor is far less. In isolation the first and last do not appear to belong to the same family group: 13 22 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 11 14 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 When viewed with the results of the other testees the links become obvious. When I compare my personal DNA results with others there are many that are similar but may have a genetic distance of 1, 2 , 3, 4 etc. Maybe I belong in one of their family groups but the people that would provide the necessary links just haven't been tested? Logically though this must mean I potentially belong to many family groups and it just depends on where the arbitrary lines are drawn between families. This is the reason why I doubt that family groupings are relevant except for exact matches. I think this just proves that we are probably all related if you look far enough back in time. Regards, Steve Joe Marshall wrote: > Hi , You won't find those answers on this group or the Marshall DNA > site, it is on other DNA sites and School sites, etc. > > my caps is sticking so sorry if I miss a few > > Our Marshall DNA site is 1999. Still no responses from FTDNA other than > "we will look into it". You would need to look around at other sources > to get the info. There are lots out there. I have a link below to one > page to look at. > > I had more than 12 markers done but he does not add them. I have > people write to me and say they never have been posted. There are a > bunch on there that should be in the Simon Granser Marshall line based > on the numbers > > on one other note first, we could actually find that the ancient > Marshall's did think they were related because of name. Or there could > have been some adoption in 1400 or something that created another DNA > line. It is only a method to see who is blood relative at some point in > time. It could be from 1200's when they first started using last names. > Or in some other case such as a totally different name, there could > have been some adoption in 800 for all we know. We will also all have > other name matches from back in time before the use of last names. > > Remember this, when there were not that many people, they did not use > last names. They were Sir John of Essex, for example. He was the only > one in that town with that name. You have to imagine a much smaller > neighborhood than we have today. > > > The help you get from it depends on when you are stuck in your tree. If > you are stuck 100 years ago, you would want numbers that are nearly > 100% identical. If you are stuck 500 years ago, the branches will have > changed a bit. > the closer you are on the tree, the closer your numbers usually are. > > to find the truth you must read and remember history and facts that > some are not taught > > your haplogroup came from one person long ago, it is a fact > (haplogroup is not even in the spell checker) > WHEN, is another question that can not be scientifically proven > > It is known though, that I1b is the Normans and R1b is the Irish > possibly "Picts" that were there longer than the Normans > > certain markers are prone to genetic mutation. others do not change at > all. it has to do with where you live ie: the sun rays hitting you/ > radiation. this means a higher mutation rate of those certain numbers. > If you live near the equator you will have more mutation. that is a > fact. when you go outside and feel the sun burning you, that is > radiation. You have to take in to account that some base mutation rates > are very low. some match exact because they are a father and son as > noted on the charts. You would probably have to have someone in your > exact branch to be an exact match with no mutation. Now if you get a > lot of Xrays or something, that will possibly do it. > > one mutation in Group F is the first digit 15 to 14 and the 12th digit > > > those certain numbers that do not change or not much, are probably the > ones you match with every one else. > > sometimes those numbers are in red on charts. the ones that change more > > > you can type in numbers here and experiment > > http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode > > I can not get this page to work on my site at the moment > > > > > > Joe Marshall > > gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 > 10th Virginia Militia 1776 > ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel > > r[EVOL]ution calling > > http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org > > rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 > > DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm > > marshall DNA: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Marshall <smarshall@meridianfreight.com.au> > To: marshall@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 2:06 am > Subject: [MARSHALL] How are family groups determined in the Marshall > DNA Project? > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > Can anyone explain how family groups are determined for DNA test > subjects? > > I used to think that subjects were placed in groups where there was a > high level of marker matches, say 11 of 12, and where the non-matching > marker varied by only 1 or 2. Probably a common haplo group was also > important. I'm now unsure how scientific this process can be (I mean > the > arbitrary grouping of individuals not the DNA testing itself). > > By way of example, on the Marshall DNA Project website, Group A is > shown > as having 5 testees. As I read from testee 1 down to testee 5 I see the > similarities and assume that's why they've been grouped together. If > you > look, however, at 1 and 5 in isolation they match on only 8 of 12. If > results for the remaining testees were not available I presume 1 and 5 > would not be in the same group. > > Logically this then raises the question of whether many other testees > with perhaps only 8 of 12 matches may belong within a common family > group but proof is just not available (ie there may be "linking" > individuals who have not been tested). > > My next query relates to the increased use of 25, 37 and 67 marker > testing. In determining family groups are the first 12 markers given > more weight than remaining markers? Two individuals could match 100% on > the 1st 12 but vary considerably thereafter. Would they then belong in > the same family group? I have had a 67 marker test done for myself. I > match on more than 12 markers with a few other testees but not > necessarily the 1st 12 or even 12 consecutive markers. > > I find this really hard to understand. I'd love to read other people's > views on this. > > Regards, > > Steve Marshall > Sydney > Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

a good dna site is the one that has "7 daughters of eve" groups. google that. I think they are in UK. They explain a bit better. None are gonna tell you that unless you wear SPF 200, the sun rays etc. mess you up Ftdna actually does little to help anyone analyze anything. Every website I have seen for other surnames, some really nice, are made by the people running them. Some have an ORG like "Marshall Genealogy Org." Just on another note, could we do that? They have a thing called "chip in" and we could all donate a couple bucks like other names. we COULD band together on that!?!? anyway, I only did ftdna because they are in the USA. I also did the "free" Sorensen test but they do not give you much info and then try to make you pay. this will need to be seen wide from the dna site 81462 Marshall I1c 15 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 13 12 31 15 08 10 11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15 me 43076 Marshall I1c 14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 12 14 12 32 15 08 10 11 11 25 14 19 27 11 14 14 15 * * * * * this is a genetic distance of 1 on certain digits or Y-alleles, not 5 because 5 are different when you go beyond 1-2 digits it is starting to be a different haplogroup, a different people that is why they tell you what group you belong. there are also haplogroup predictor pages that you can type numbers in these are both I1c as well as...... see this page? http://www.familytreedna.com/ftGroups_score_frame_classic.aspx?pass=ZQspFAycOmZvnbXkIjqCFefM6Ma2nXS01tkG0Iak5PURMftastABJRltynkXrpki13Eq6IXMBs6Odx7hi8nczK8MLXfGMapt6GnLm0dwILLnGzqTlAP%2BjEq5ZFgJKqkefwdP2bTjZRA%3D all these people are related at some point in time. If you can not accept that, you can not even begin to work with dna. If you are looking for an exact match you are going to need someone like your uncle. If no one really close to you joins, yours will be a bit unique. I think you sent me yours and I said group P, but part of a bigger group. Not sure, been mailing a few people :) I am the only person in my direct line, but others in group F are father and son etc. that is why some match exactly 100% like on Maury Who's Your Daddy. LOL you might not know what that is. 5 different numbers or mutations is not a genetic distance of 5. You have to look at the whole number and the amount of digits the numbers are off. Those you show are off 1. If one was 12 and one 15 that is 3 and different. you really can not make up numbers and which ones to change. If you do not feel yours matches you need to look at the other numbers. get a longer test like 67 marker I think? Not many have though. But then again I am not sure bacause it never gets updated. Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Marshall <smarshall@meridianfreight.com.au> To: marshall@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 9:00 pm Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] How are family groups determined in the Marshall DNA Project? Hi Joe, Thanks for the detailed reply. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places but I haven't been able to find answers to my question despite countless Google searches. I'm still puzzled about the criteria used to place testees into family groupings. Following is a set of 12 marker results for 6 fictitious individuals that might be considered as a single family group: 13 22 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 22 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 11 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 11 14 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 Each person matches on 11 of 12 markers with the person above and/or below on the list and there is a genetic distance of 1 on the marker that is not a match. Various websites explain the % chance of sharing a common ancestor within a certain number of generations where there is a genetic distance of 1. If they share a common surname that % should be the same for each of the 6 testees when comparing results with those immediately above or below but the % decreases as the genetic distance increases. There is a genetic distance of 5 between the first and last person so the chance of them sharing a common ancestor is far less. In isolation the first and last do not appear to belong to the same family group: 13 22 13 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 14 23 14 11 14 14 11 14 11 12 12 30 When viewed with the results of the other testees the links become obvious. When I compare my personal DNA results with others there are many that are similar but may have a genetic distance of 1, 2 , 3, 4 etc. Maybe I belong in one of their family groups but the people that would provide the necessary links just haven't been tested? Logically though this must mean I potentially belong to many family groups and it just depends on where the arbitrary lines are drawn between families. This is the reason why I doubt that family groupings are relevant except for exact matches. I think this just proves that we are probably all related if you look far enough back in time. Regards, Steve Joe Marshall wrote: > Hi , You won't find those answers on this group or the Marshall DNA > site, it is on other DNA sites and School sites, etc. > > my caps is sticking so sorry if I miss a few > > Our Marshall DNA site is 1999. Still no responses from FTDNA other than > "we will look into it". You would need to look around at other sources > to get the info. There are lots out there. I have a link below to one > page to look at. > > I had more than 12 markers done but he does not add them. I have > people write to me and say they never have been posted. There are a > bunch on there that should be in the Simon Granser Marshall line based > on the numbers > > on one other note first, we could actually find that the ancient > Marshall's did think they were related because of name. Or there could > have been some adoption in 1400 or something that created another DNA > line. It is only a method to see who is blood relative at some point in > time. It could be from 1200's when they first started using last names. > Or in some other case such as a totally different name, there could > have been some adoption in 800 for all we know. We will also all have > other name matches from back in time before the use of last names. > > Remember this, when there were not that many people, they did not use > last names. They were Sir John of Essex, for example. He was the only > one in that town with that name. You have to imagine a much smaller > neighborhood than we have today. > > > The help you get from it depends on when you are stuck in your tree. If > you are stuck 100 years ago, you would want numbers that are nearly > 100% identical. If you are stuck 500 years ago, the branches will have > changed a bit. > the closer you are on the tree, the closer your numbers usually are. > > to find the truth you must read and remember history and facts that > some are not taught > > your haplogroup came from one person long ago, it is a fact > (haplogroup is not even in the spell checker) > WHEN, is another question that can not be scientifically proven > > It is known though, that I1b is the Normans and R1b is the Irish > possibly "Picts" that were there longer than the Normans > > certain markers are prone to genetic mutation. others do not change at > all. it has to do with where you live ie: the sun rays hitting you/ > radiation. this means a higher mutation rate of those certain numbers. > If you live near the equator you will have more mutation. that is a > fact. when you go outside and feel the sun burning you, that is > radiation. You have to take in to account that some base mutation rates > are very low. some match exact because they are a father and son as > noted on the charts. You would probably have to have someone in your > exact branch to be an exact match with no mutation. Now if you get a > lot of Xrays or something, that will possibly do it. > > one mutation in Group F is the first digit 15 to 14 and the 12th digit > > > those certain numbers that do not change or not much, are probably the > ones you match with every one else. > > sometimes those numbers are in red on charts. the ones that change more > > > you can type in numbers here and experiment > > http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode > > I can not get this page to work on my site at the moment > > > > > > Joe Marshall > > gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 > 10th Virginia Militia 1776 > ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel > > r[EVOL]ution calling > > http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org > > rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 > > DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm > > marshall DNA: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Marshall <smarshall@meridianfreight.com.au> > To: marshall@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 2:06 am > Subject: [MARSHALL] How are family groups determined in the Marshall > DNA Project? > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > Can anyone explain how family groups are determined for DNA test > subjects? > > I used to think that subjects were placed in groups where there was a > high level of marker matches, say 11 of 12, and where the non-matching > marker varied by only 1 or 2. Probably a common haplo group was also > important. I'm now unsure how scientific this process can be (I mean > the > arbitrary grouping of individuals not the DNA testing itself). > > By way of example, on the Marshall DNA Project website, Group A is > shown > as having 5 testees. As I read from testee 1 down to testee 5 I see the > similarities and assume that's why they've been grouped together. If > you > look, however, at 1 and 5 in isolation they match on only 8 of 12. If > results for the remaining testees were not available I presume 1 and 5 > would not be in the same group. > > Logically this then raises the question of whether many other testees > with perhaps only 8 of 12 matches may belong within a common family > group but proof is just not available (ie there may be "linking" > individuals who have not been tested). > > My next query relates to the increased use of 25, 37 and 67 marker > testing. In determining family groups are the first 12 markers given > more weight than remaining markers? Two individuals could match 100% on > the 1st 12 but vary considerably thereafter. Would they then belong in > the same family group? I have had a 67 marker test done for myself. I > match on more than 12 markers with a few other testees but not > necessarily the 1st 12 or even 12 consecutive markers. > > I find this really hard to understand. I'd love to read other people's > views on this. > > Regards, > > Steve Marshall > Sydney > Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Whssuper Surnames: Marshall, Garrett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4885/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there any Marshall's in Alabama that have relatives that they know about but do not know what happened to them. I have a brick wall. My G-Grandfather James Butler Marshall was supposed to be born in Alabama and he had a brother Frank, on the 1900 Census they are living with an Aunt with the last name of Garrett. So their parents must have died. I am unable to locate their parents or know who their father was. Both died by 1915, so they did not live long. By Grandmother was one of only two children by James and Frank died before James and had no children that I am aware of. So, I am looking for Garrett's or Marshall's that may have some family they are wondering about. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TheodoraLange Surnames: Marshall Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I suggest you post your birth name on one of the other message boards that is associated with adoptions and the message board for Lackwanna County. If you would do a Google for Dunmore, PA you will find all kinds of possibilities for researching. In the subject line at least put your birth surname and at least the year. If at all possible go to the Lackwanna County Courthouse and check the birth records yourself. You should be able to find the orginal certificate as well as the amended one. I have been sucessful in doing this myself. There may be other records that may lead you to the Marshalls. I will be happy to help you if you will contact me directly. Mrs. Theodora Lange tslange@msn.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi , You won't find those answers on this group or the Marshall DNA site, it is on other DNA sites and School sites, etc. my caps is sticking so sorry if I miss a few Our Marshall DNA site is 1999. Still no responses from FTDNA other than "we will look into it". You would need to look around at other sources to get the info. There are lots out there. I have a link below to one page to look at. I had more than 12 markers done but he does not add them. I have people write to me and say they never have been posted. There are a bunch on there that should be in the Simon Granser Marshall line based on the numbers on one other note first, we could actually find that the ancient Marshall's did think they were related because of name. Or there could have been some adoption in 1400 or something that created another DNA line. It is only a method to see who is blood relative at some point in time. It could be from 1200's when they first started using last names. Or in some other case such as a totally different name, there could have been some adoption in 800 for all we know. We will also all have other name matches from back in time before the use of last names. Remember this, when there were not that many people, they did not use last names. They were Sir John of Essex, for example. He was the only one in that town with that name. You have to imagine a much smaller neighborhood than we have today. The help you get from it depends on when you are stuck in your tree. If you are stuck 100 years ago, you would want numbers that are nearly 100% identical. If you are stuck 500 years ago, the branches will have changed a bit. the closer you are on the tree, the closer your numbers usually are. to find the truth you must read and remember history and facts that some are not taught your haplogroup came from one person long ago, it is a fact (haplogroup is not even in the spell checker) WHEN, is another question that can not be scientifically proven It is known though, that I1b is the Normans and R1b is the Irish possibly "Picts" that were there longer than the Normans certain markers are prone to genetic mutation. others do not change at all. it has to do with where you live ie: the sun rays hitting you/ radiation. this means a higher mutation rate of those certain numbers. If you live near the equator you will have more mutation. that is a fact. when you go outside and feel the sun burning you, that is radiation. You have to take in to account that some base mutation rates are very low. some match exact because they are a father and son as noted on the charts. You would probably have to have someone in your exact branch to be an exact match with no mutation. Now if you get a lot of Xrays or something, that will possibly do it. one mutation in Group F is the first digit 15 to 14 and the 12th digit those certain numbers that do not change or not much, are probably the ones you match with every one else. sometimes those numbers are in red on charts. the ones that change more you can type in numbers here and experiment http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode I can not get this page to work on my site at the moment Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Marshall <smarshall@meridianfreight.com.au> To: marshall@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 2:06 am Subject: [MARSHALL] How are family groups determined in the Marshall DNA Project? Hi, Can anyone explain how family groups are determined for DNA test subjects? I used to think that subjects were placed in groups where there was a high level of marker matches, say 11 of 12, and where the non-matching marker varied by only 1 or 2. Probably a common haplo group was also important. I'm now unsure how scientific this process can be (I mean the arbitrary grouping of individuals not the DNA testing itself). By way of example, on the Marshall DNA Project website, Group A is shown as having 5 testees. As I read from testee 1 down to testee 5 I see the similarities and assume that's why they've been grouped together. If you look, however, at 1 and 5 in isolation they match on only 8 of 12. If results for the remaining testees were not available I presume 1 and 5 would not be in the same group. Logically this then raises the question of whether many other testees with perhaps only 8 of 12 matches may belong within a common family group but proof is just not available (ie there may be "linking" individuals who have not been tested). My next query relates to the increased use of 25, 37 and 67 marker testing. In determining family groups are the first 12 markers given more weight than remaining markers? Two individuals could match 100% on the 1st 12 but vary considerably thereafter. Would they then belong in the same family group? I have had a 67 marker test done for myself. I match on more than 12 markers with a few other testees but not necessarily the 1st 12 or even 12 consecutive markers. I find this really hard to understand. I'd love to read other people's views on this. Regards, Steve Marshall Sydney Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

here is a book by William Marshall mentions a Mr Boswell??? http://books.google.com/books?id=WAoHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA285&dq=%22william+Marshall%22+%22boswell%22&lr=#PPP7,M1 Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Marshall <thechipsrus@aol.com> To: marshall@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 6:08 pm Subject: [MARSHALL] William Marshall "eminent writer upon agricultural subjects" 1745-1818 m. Maud Bruce This line is connected with John THE Marshall FitzGilbert and William THE Marshall children unknown siblings unknown he is in the lines of Marshall and Bruce his father was William Lord of Empringham 1418 Marshall families may have been overseers of plantations at one point may have came to America...tracking now William Marshall, The Rural Economy of Norfolk, 2nd edn., 2 vols. (London, 1795), A calculation. published. by. William Marshall. in. 1785 illus-. trates. the. heavy. demands made. upon. English. woodlands ... William Marshall considered a 20-cow farm ‘middling’ size JSTOR: William Marshall's Advice on Plant SelectionAmong those with a claim on our attention is William Marshall (1745-1818). He had a natural flair for agricultural improvement, but he had ambitions to be ... links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0307-1243(199324)21%3A2%3C206%3AWMAOPS%3E2.0.CO %3B2-K - The hall of the Bruces stood on the spot now occupied by Beck Isle, The last of the Pickering branch of the family was Sir William Bruce, who died in the early part of the 15th century, leaving three daughters co-heirs, the eldest of whom married Sir William Marshall. Beck Isle was built by William Marshall, the eminent agriculturist and author of "A Survey of the Rural Economy of England," the last representative of the family. The Lascelles had, according to Camden, a "Manor Place" at Keld Head, There are tablets to the memory of members of the families of Fothergill, Marshall, Wood, Piper, and Robinson of Riseborough. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Pickering/Pickering90.html Marshall, William Minutes, experiments, observations, and general remarks on agriculture, in the southern counties Marshall, William. Minutes, experiments, observations, and general remarks, on agriculture, in thesouthern counties; a new edition. To which is prefixed a sketch of the Vale of London, and an outline of its rural economy: now first published. London: printed for G. Nicol; G. G. and J. Robinson; and J. Debrett, 1799. xxiii(1), 414; xi(1), 387(5) p. + two double-page plans, three double-page plates, a folding table, and a leaf of bookseller's advertisements at the end of Vol. I. Two vols., 8vo, contemporary tree calf, gilt, spines gilt (rubbed, some wear to spines and corners). First edition thus; a substantially reworked version of two titles published in 1778 and 1779, together with a new section of the Vale of London. William Marshall was one of the most important agricultural writers of the late 18th and early 19th century, but he remained something of an outsider, both in his own mind and in the view of his contemporaries. In the early 1790's he suggested the formation of a Department of Rural Affairs, and a national survey of farming; both ideas were appropriated by Sir John Sinclair, who was instrumental in the establishment of the Board of Agriculture in 1793, and in the vast project of county reports which quickly followed. Marshall, however, was only marginally involved in these efforts, and his comments upon them inevitably show a certain amount of resentment. Later critics tend to find Marshall's writings less appealing than those of Arthur Young from a purely literary point of view, but superior in many ways with regard to careful observation and practical advice. Complete with two double-page farm plans, three double-page plates of agricultural implements, and a folding table; in this set, four leaves of preliminaries from the first volume are duplicated in the last signature of Vol. II (where they were originally imposed). Fussell II, p. 118; Perkins 1141. Price: GBP 275.00 other currencies order no. B3892 inquire offered by: Ximenes Rare Books, Inc. (GREAT BRITAIN) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Marshall, William A review of the reports to the Board of Agriculture Marshall, William. A review of the reports to the Board of Agriculture; from the northern department of England: comprising Northumberland, Durham, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Lancashire, Yorkshire; and the mountainous parts of Derbyshire, &c. York: printed by Thomas Wilson & Son; for Longman, Hurst, Rees, and Orme (London), 1808. xlvii(1), 536 pp. + a double-page map, and a16-page bookseller's catalogue at the end (dated June 1, 1808). 8vo, original light blue boards, recent tan paper backstrip and label (some wear to corners). First edition. The first in a series of five volumes, published over a period of ten years, in which Marshall analyzes, with great reservations, the survey of British agriculture carried out by the Board of Agriculture. Marshall said of these reports that, "seeing the magnitude of their bulk and the comparative smallness of the useful matter they contain, [they] may well be deemed a heavy tax o the time, if not the purse, of the agricultural public." Faint waterstains in the lower gotters, some light browning, but a very good copy, entirely uncut. Fussell II, p. 119; Perkins 1144. Price: GBP 150.00 other currencies order no. B3896 inquire offered by: Ximenes Rare Books, Inc. (GREAT BRITAIN) Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cwmarshall80 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you tried petitioning the local district court where this adoption took place, asking them to release your records to you? Folks that were adopted have so many more rights now to info like this than they had even just a few years ago. It's always worth a try. The worst thing they can say is "no"... About 10 years ago, I wrote a pleading letter to the local county courthouse here to try and get access to my late grandfather's deceased sister's son's adoption records from the mid-1920s (she died at the age of 19, complications from the birth - his father put him up for adoption a couple of months later). To my surprise, the judge released ALL sealed adoption records to me and I found out a ton of great information as a result of this. This also helped me find my "missing" cousins who, as it turns out, had been looking for us for years too. That was quite a meeting. Best of luck to you. Charles Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This line is connected with John THE Marshall FitzGilbert and William THE Marshall children unknown siblings unknown he is in the lines of Marshall and Bruce his father was William Lord of Empringham 1418 Marshall families may have been overseers of plantations at one point may have came to America...tracking now William Marshall, The Rural Economy of Norfolk, 2nd edn., 2 vols. (London, 1795), A calculation. published. by. William Marshall. in. 1785 illus-. trates. the. heavy. demands made. upon. English. woodlands ... William Marshall considered a 20-cow farm ‘middling’ size JSTOR: William Marshall's Advice on Plant SelectionAmong those with a claim on our attention is William Marshall (1745-1818). He had a natural flair for agricultural improvement, but he had ambitions to be ... links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0307-1243(199324)21%3A2%3C206%3AWMAOPS%3E2.0.CO %3B2-K - The hall of the Bruces stood on the spot now occupied by Beck Isle, The last of the Pickering branch of the family was Sir William Bruce, who died in the early part of the 15th century, leaving three daughters co-heirs, the eldest of whom married Sir William Marshall. Beck Isle was built by William Marshall, the eminent agriculturist and author of "A Survey of the Rural Economy of England," the last representative of the family. The Lascelles had, according to Camden, a "Manor Place" at Keld Head, There are tablets to the memory of members of the families of Fothergill, Marshall, Wood, Piper, and Robinson of Riseborough. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Pickering/Pickering90.html Marshall, William Minutes, experiments, observations, and general remarks on agriculture, in the southern counties Marshall, William. Minutes, experiments, observations, and general remarks, on agriculture, in thesouthern counties; a new edition. To which is prefixed a sketch of the Vale of London, and an outline of its rural economy: now first published. London: printed for G. Nicol; G. G. and J. Robinson; and J. Debrett, 1799. xxiii(1), 414; xi(1), 387(5) p. + two double-page plans, three double-page plates, a folding table, and a leaf of bookseller's advertisements at the end of Vol. I. Two vols., 8vo, contemporary tree calf, gilt, spines gilt (rubbed, some wear to spines and corners). First edition thus; a substantially reworked version of two titles published in 1778 and 1779, together with a new section of the Vale of London. William Marshall was one of the most important agricultural writers of the late 18th and early 19th century, but he remained something of an outsider, both in his own mind and in the view of his contemporaries. In the early 1790's he suggested the formation of a Department of Rural Affairs, and a national survey of farming; both ideas were appropriated by Sir John Sinclair, who was instrumental in the establishment of the Board of Agriculture in 1793, and in the vast project of county reports which quickly followed. Marshall, however, was only marginally involved in these efforts, and his comments upon them inevitably show a certain amount of resentment. Later critics tend to find Marshall's writings less appealing than those of Arthur Young from a purely literary point of view, but superior in many ways with regard to careful observation and practical advice. Complete with two double-page farm plans, three double-page plates of agricultural implements, and a folding table; in this set, four leaves of preliminaries from the first volume are duplicated in the last signature of Vol. II (where they were originally imposed). Fussell II, p. 118; Perkins 1141. Price: GBP 275.00 other currencies order no. B3892 inquire offered by: Ximenes Rare Books, Inc. (GREAT BRITAIN) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Marshall, William A review of the reports to the Board of Agriculture Marshall, William. A review of the reports to the Board of Agriculture; from the northern department of England: comprising Northumberland, Durham, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Lancashire, Yorkshire; and the mountainous parts of Derbyshire, &c. York: printed by Thomas Wilson & Son; for Longman, Hurst, Rees, and Orme (London), 1808. xlvii(1), 536 pp. + a double-page map, and a16-page bookseller's catalogue at the end (dated June 1, 1808). 8vo, original light blue boards, recent tan paper backstrip and label (some wear to corners). First edition. The first in a series of five volumes, published over a period of ten years, in which Marshall analyzes, with great reservations, the survey of British agriculture carried out by the Board of Agriculture. Marshall said of these reports that, "seeing the magnitude of their bulk and the comparative smallness of the useful matter they contain, [they] may well be deemed a heavy tax o the time, if not the purse, of the agricultural public." Faint waterstains in the lower gotters, some light browning, but a very good copy, entirely uncut. Fussell II, p. 119; Perkins 1144. Price: GBP 150.00 other currencies order no. B3896 inquire offered by: Ximenes Rare Books, Inc. (GREAT BRITAIN) Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nancyrevans148 Surnames: Steen, Rose, Marshall Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4884/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can someone please help me find out who the parents and siblings of Levenia Marshall as well as when she was born and died. Levenia was the 2nd wife of James Henderson Steen (1863-1911). The lived in Conoquenessing Twp. James and Lavenia were married 18Apr1900 at the home of Rev W. J. Grimes. James had a daughter Willa May from his first marriage. I believe he and Lavenia had Irene and William Harold Steen. Thank you in advance! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Do a google search for adoptions. There is a central location where you can register that you are seeking your birth mother/parents and the biological mother can do the same that she is seeking her child she had to give up for adoption. Maybe you will have success doing this. Good Luck

Hi, Can anyone explain how family groups are determined for DNA test subjects? I used to think that subjects were placed in groups where there was a high level of marker matches, say 11 of 12, and where the non-matching marker varied by only 1 or 2. Probably a common haplo group was also important. I'm now unsure how scientific this process can be (I mean the arbitrary grouping of individuals not the DNA testing itself). By way of example, on the Marshall DNA Project website, Group A is shown as having 5 testees. As I read from testee 1 down to testee 5 I see the similarities and assume that's why they've been grouped together. If you look, however, at 1 and 5 in isolation they match on only 8 of 12. If results for the remaining testees were not available I presume 1 and 5 would not be in the same group. Logically this then raises the question of whether many other testees with perhaps only 8 of 12 matches may belong within a common family group but proof is just not available (ie there may be "linking" individuals who have not been tested). My next query relates to the increased use of 25, 37 and 67 marker testing. In determining family groups are the first 12 markers given more weight than remaining markers? Two individuals could match 100% on the 1st 12 but vary considerably thereafter. Would they then belong in the same family group? I have had a 67 marker test done for myself. I match on more than 12 markers with a few other testees but not necessarily the 1st 12 or even 12 consecutive markers. I find this really hard to understand. I'd love to read other people's views on this. Regards, Steve Marshall Sydney Australia

This link is to a page (loads sloooow) that shows how a person usually got their name back in the colonial days. It is very helpful to look at who surrounds a person, rather than look only for that person. http://www.ucan.us/genealogydata/g1079.html#I63287 note the Dixon and Wortham which is Worsham this is prob group F Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: MARSHALL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 5:24 pm Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] My Past This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TheodoraLange Surnames: Marshall Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you do a Google search for Dunmore, Penn it will give you lots of info. Dunmore is in Lackawanna County and there is info on how to obtain all sorts of records. Also there is a Message board for people looking for birth parents. If you want to contact me directly I will be happy to help you in your search for info. Teddy @ tslange@msn.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list I am trying to figure out mistakes. In the Rhodes family they have this Children of HEZEKIAH RHODES and ANNE HILL are: i. JOHN5 RHODES III (Source: Rhodes1.ftw, Date of Import: Aug 22, 1998.), b. September 27, 1721, Middlesex County, VA; d. Abt. December 1721. ii. ELIZABETH RHODES (Source: Rhodes1.ftw, Date of Import: Aug 22, 1998.), b. December 23, 1722, Middlesex County, VA. iii. SUSANNAH RHODES (Source: Rhodes1.ftw, Date of Import: Aug 22, 1998.), b. March 19, 1725/26; m. THOMAS MARSHALL (Source: Rhodes1.ftw, Date of Import: Aug 22, 1998.), Orange, Virginia (Source: Rhodes1.ftw, Date of Import: Aug 22, 1998.). It is no where near the 1749-1849 Thomas that supposedly m. Susannah Rhodes is there 2 sets of these out there or a mistake? Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Marshall <thechipsrus@aol.com> To: marshall@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 6:36 pm Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] Grp F Marshall and DIxon/Dickerson and then Ferrell/Fewell it is endless Ok just as I suspected, those are the same names, look it up on THEIR sites.........some of you all give up too easy one fact about group F, they did not come from any one country, like Ireland, they were all over the British Kingdom. It is proven more than one of the same dna line came from more than one country of the kingdom I am finding that most everyone is being a bit too picky when researching names in the colonial days. Most did not know how to spell their own name, or write it, or say it. Here is an example. A guy named Blue is family with other Blues, Blew, etc. but when the guy is right next to or brought by a Bly, no one thinks it might be similar but me. I am certain that Ferrell and Fewell are confused as well Another is Bouldin and Bowling Bowlin duh Bolin maybe??? It is on those sites that study those names, but no one in Marshall ever looks further. But I am. One guy wrote to me and says he is surprised there is not a lot working on the dna groups when there are over 100 in it. Me too. Where are ya?? Here is one on that subject. My dna is listed on FTDNA just under and nearly identical to Essex Worsham. There are tons of Marshall/Worsham pages out there. He was either adopted or something else. I predict Christopher Marshall to be group F but that is just my prediction based on things looking me in the face. There is not going to be too many miracle documents or Bibles found. It will take re making the families by using all the facts about who they were around and where they were as well as what may have driven them from East Coast to West Frontier like a war. Or a border moving when they did not move AT ALL. You could be in MD or VA and then PA after the Mason Dixon line but in the same spot. Anyone with names like these needs to start helping and looking again. There is so much new info out there and books online. There were Marshall's here i the early 1600's on. Tons of families are out there in books and other family name websites. Look at the wife name, the middle names, the mothers last name. These people lived and married and moved around in closely knit groups. Most marriages were arranged with someone they already married into. RootsWeb: TNSCOTT-L Re: [TNSCOTT] Sarah Jane Dixon/Dickerson Subject: Re: [TNSCOTT] Sarah Jane Dixon/Dickerson Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:24:15 EDT. Yes, it is the same. He was married twice. ... archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/TNSCOTT/2003-05/1052965355 - 4k - Cached - Similar pages RootsWeb: TNSCOTT-L Re: [TNSCOTT] Sarah Jane Dixon/Dickerson Dixon/Dickerson. She was married to my great great grandfather James Riley > Trammell. I need the names of her parents and this person below gets it FERRELL FEWELL look at it it is called "soundex in your brain" Author: grtrek Surnames: Antill, Barnett, Ferrell, Fewell, Antell, Antle, Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.jackson/6649/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking information on the following: Jesse Antill born about 1834 in Ohio. He married Susan Barnett about 1855 in Monroe County Ohio. Susan Barnett who was born about 1834 in Ohio. Jesse and Susan moved to West Virginia. (Virginia at the time) Jesse's sister, Violet Antill born about 1844 married Susan's brother, Kendall, born about 1837, Violet and Kendall also moved to Jackson, West Virginia. I need the parents of the Barnett siblings, Jesse Antill and Susan Barnett had ____ children most born in JACKSON COUNTY Names ? Susan Barnett (Antill) died and Jesse Antill remarried to Mary Jane FERRELL, dob 1827 Mary Jane FERRELL was born in Russell, VA in 1827 to John FERRELL and Sarah ALLISON. Mary Jane FERRELL was widow, as she had previously married David T. JONES in Lawrence County, Ohio. Mary Jane FERRELL and David T. JONES had _____ Children. Names ? Jesse Antill and Mary Jane FERRELL had one son Henry Withers Antill who I believe never married and had no issue (children) Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Marshall <thechipsrus@aol.com> To: marshall@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 3:02 pm Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] Family Tree Marshall Group F Hi, Both the rootsweb site link and family line in the posting: also group F and I am extracting it from the gedcom. The gedcom appears to have the CJ line mixed so I am only extracting this Mark line. Plus we are checking for corrections recently found yay more group F! fillin in that puzzle! we need more pre revolution info Joe Marshall gggg grandson Aaron Marshall b. abt 1750 10th Virginia Militia 1776 ggggg grandson Col. John Marshel r[EVOL]ution calling http://www.MiscellaneaMarescalliana.org rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=aaronmarshel1740 DNA site: http://www.chipster.us/AaronMarshallDNAline/default.htm marshall DNA: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~marshalldna/MarshallDNA1/ -----Original Message----- From: Chris A. Marshall <cmarshal@uark.edu> To: marshall@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 1:34 pm Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] Family Tree Marshall Group F Have you seen this listing on Roots Web? http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bmarsh2007&id=I1158 It has the same names that you listed but put together a little differently. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Usually, you can get someone in the church to help you get in touch with your birth parents. Always knock on the door and try the latch before assuming it is locked. It will, however, be easier for you if you are a practicing Catholic and can get your local pastor to help you. Joan Earnshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: MARSHALL-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MARSHALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] My Past This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chris56pa Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.1.1/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.1.1/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: Yes, I was adopted thru the Catholic church and I believe all the records were sealed. So if anyone who knows anything about my existence has info. I would be grateful. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MARSHALL-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chris56pa Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I was adopted thru the Catholic church and I believe all the records were sealed. So if anyone who knows anything about my existence has info. I would be grateful. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TheodoraLange Surnames: Marshall Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.marshall/4883.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you do a Google search for Dunmore, Penn it will give you lots of info. Dunmore is in Lackawanna County and there is info on how to obtain all sorts of records. Also there is a Message board for people looking for birth parents. If you want to contact me directly I will be happy to help you in your search for info. Teddy @ tslange@msn.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.