> > From: The Gabriels in BC <[email protected]> > Date: 2004/06/01 Tue AM 11:20:38 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MARSHALL] William Marshal > > Lyn, > have you tried looking under the Pickle surname? Martha C. Pickle is on the 1850 census, living in the Bedford County, TN in the household of Jonathan and Penelope Leggitt. Penelope's maiden name was Pickle, so it's a safe bet that Martha is related to her; the questions is, how? There are numerous family trees showing Penelope as the child of Henry & Rachel (Neely) Pickle. I thought Martha could be the child of one of Penelope's brothers, but she is not listed as the child of any of the brothers of the 'right' age, and other children are listed. Is that a rare name? I don't think it's that rare. I am under the impression that all the Pickles of Bedford County are related to each other, and that they came from NC. There are Pickle families in PA, but I don't have any reason to think they are related to mine. > That could be a good place to start. Also, if you are sure about the date > of death you can get the death records from the government. They might have > something there for you to pursue. William died before the state of Kansas required death certificates. I have Martha's dc, but all the parental info is "X Pickle" and "don't know". Do you know if he was ever in the > military? You could find out a lot from military records. I don't know if he was in the military or not. He is the right age to have been in the Civil War. Also, look for > land grants in his name or in her name. I know he farmed in Kansas and Illinois, so I can assume he farmed while living in Arkansas and Tennessee. Where do I write for land records? Thanks for your help. I sure do appreciate it. Lynn Until you get more facts about his > life, this all pretty much all that I can help you with. Since you know > when and where he died, start from there and try to rebuild his life. > > Good luck > Carol Gabriel > > List Admin > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Lyn, have you tried looking under the Pickle surname? Is that a rare name? That could be a good place to start. Also, if you are sure about the date of death you can get the death records from the government. They might have something there for you to pursue. Do you know if he was ever in the military? You could find out a lot from military records. Also, look for land grants in his name or in her name. Until you get more facts about his life, this all pretty much all that I can help you with. Since you know when and where he died, start from there and try to rebuild his life. Good luck Carol Gabriel List Admin

The following is a letter that was sent to someone else I know that also received an email about record destruction in SLC. It turns out the email was a hoax. I would like to say thank you to everyone that helper me out. Have a great day Carol Gabriel List Admin The Genealogical Society of Utah and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are not destroying genealogical records and have no plans to do so. The family group records that were on the 4th floor of the Joseph Smith Memorial Building have been microfilmed. These microfilm are in the Family History Library and can be loaned to our family history centers worldwide. The books and other materials that were on the 4th floor have been moved to the Family History Library. The library is being renovated and all films, fiche, books and other items will be returned to their proper places when the renovation is finished at the end of this year. Our genealogical records are not being destroyed. If you wish to learn more about the worldwide activities we suggest that you visit the Genealogical Society of Utah Web site at http://www.gensocietyofutah.org/. Sincerely, Family History Research Support [email protected] FCH/aw

Dear Janice, Consider yourself prayed for! I am a survivor of breast cancer . 12 years. I'm a Marshall by marriage but cancer runs in my family as well! No matter what you have to deal with God will help you through it. I'm praying you have a full recovery as I did. Hang in and God bless you! Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ms.J.HANCOCK" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:15 PM Subject: [MARSHALL] O/T > Hi everyone- > I am Janice Marshall-Hancock and my ancestors were MARSHALL-HAWKINS paternal > side MUSIC-ALEXANDER maternal side. > > This may be off topic, but wanted you all to know that I "may" have lung > cancer. Cancer runs in my Hawkins and Musick side of the family. > > This is something to watch for as I believe we get the genes from our > ancestors. I guess you could say it is MEDICAL GENEALOGY. > > I won't know if the tumor in my right lung is cancer until I have surgery to > have the lower lobe removed and have a biopsy on it. > > Please remember me in yours prayers and positive thoughts. > > Regards and best wishes, > Janice Marshall-Hancock > > A daughter is just a little girl who grows up to be a friend. > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

i'm sure this is not true. i am an LDS and not sure how many in this list are, but i have not seen anything about this at all. if they do move any records, please be assured that they will be handled with extreme care and will not be destroyed. the family history library in SLC is the largest of its kind in the world. almost all records are archived in more than one way so even if something did happen to any original records the data would still be available. i wouldnt worry about this. this is more than likely a hoax. look at all the LDS church has done for genealogy . i dont think we would destroy any records. On Sunday 23 May 2004 03:59 pm, The Gabriels in BC wrote: > Yes hopefully this is the case, and maybe someone else has > mistranslated the information. If they are trying to playa joke, then it > is in very poor taste. I shall have to look up the LDS website and see > what they have to say. I received the email about the destruction of > records through the Genealogy.com notification board. That is why I was > wondering if this was real or not. > > Thanks for the help > Carol > > List Admin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Crawford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] The LDS Library in Salt Lake City and record > destruction > > > Could this be something that has come out of a misunderstanding ? The LD > > Library is under going planned major renovations this summer and certain > > collections will be temporarily moved around while the work is being > > done. It is announced on the LDS web-site. > > > > Hopefully, this is the case. > > > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Gabriels in BC" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:45 PM > > Subject: [MARSHALL] The LDS Library in Salt Lake City and record > > destruction > > > > Hi everyone, recently I have received an email that I find awfully > > > > hard > > > > > to believe. Has anyone else heard of or received the same email from > > > someone claiming to live in Salt Lake City, stating that the LDS > > > library > > > > is > > > > > about to destroy thousands of records? > > > > > > Part of the email I have received reads as follows: > > > It would go a long way if you would file a letter of protest with your > > > request to get copies. "Don't eliminate the Ancestrial File". It has > > great > > > > value to your patrons. Please do not destroy it nor place it out of our > > > reach in the Granite Vault. (Sounds really urgent doesn't it. It is to > > the > > > > ones using it. As I said, anyone who can value records submitted from > > 1976 > > > > to 2000 needs to yell loudly and quickly.) > > > > > > Also request having someone go through the actual family group sheets > > that > > > > were once held in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building on the 4th floor. > > The > > > > whole collection of hundreds of books has been taken out of circulation > > > > and > > > > > are about to also be destroyed. Yell Loudly and ask if someone can look > > up > > > > names in the actual paper submission on the FLAGG and Barstow lines if > > you > > > > have an interest. > > > > > > Has anyone heard of this or received something like this? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Carol Gabriel > > > > > > List Admin > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Janice, My prayers are with you and what you are going through. Diseases do come genetically. My father's family has all had cancer. My mother's family has diabetes, heart problems and thyroid problems. I am doomed. I have diabetes and thyroid problems as well as a couple of cancer scares. God bless you. Mary

In a message dated 5/23/2004 3:16:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Please remember me in yours prayers and positive thoughts. Janice, I have taken your health issues to the throne of grace and left them there."Cast your cares on Him, for He cares for you." Our God hears and answers prayers and gives us peace; may you know His peace as you face this illness. Trust His goodness and grace as He is ever present in your life! Before the beginning of time He has purposed and planned this day, may we rejoice in it. May He richly bless you with His loving and healing touch. Amen. Jackie

Janice, We will keep you in our prayers and thoughts.

Could this be something that has come out of a misunderstanding ? The LD Library is under going planned major renovations this summer and certain collections will be temporarily moved around while the work is being done. It is announced on the LDS web-site. Hopefully, this is the case. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Gabriels in BC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:45 PM Subject: [MARSHALL] The LDS Library in Salt Lake City and record destruction > Hi everyone, recently I have received an email that I find awfully hard > to believe. Has anyone else heard of or received the same email from > someone claiming to live in Salt Lake City, stating that the LDS library is > about to destroy thousands of records? > > Part of the email I have received reads as follows: > It would go a long way if you would file a letter of protest with your > request to get copies. "Don't eliminate the Ancestrial File". It has great > value to your patrons. Please do not destroy it nor place it out of our > reach in the Granite Vault. (Sounds really urgent doesn't it. It is to the > ones using it. As I said, anyone who can value records submitted from 1976 > to 2000 needs to yell loudly and quickly.) > > Also request having someone go through the actual family group sheets that > were once held in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building on the 4th floor. The > whole collection of hundreds of books has been taken out of circulation and > are about to also be destroyed. Yell Loudly and ask if someone can look up > names in the actual paper submission on the FLAGG and Barstow lines if you > have an interest. > > Has anyone heard of this or received something like this? > > Thanks > Carol Gabriel > > List Admin > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi everyone- I am Janice Marshall-Hancock and my ancestors were MARSHALL-HAWKINS paternal side MUSIC-ALEXANDER maternal side. This may be off topic, but wanted you all to know that I "may" have lung cancer. Cancer runs in my Hawkins and Musick side of the family. This is something to watch for as I believe we get the genes from our ancestors. I guess you could say it is MEDICAL GENEALOGY. I won't know if the tumor in my right lung is cancer until I have surgery to have the lower lobe removed and have a biopsy on it. Please remember me in yours prayers and positive thoughts. Regards and best wishes, Janice Marshall-Hancock A daughter is just a little girl who grows up to be a friend.

Sorry, I have never heard of this. Could it be someone's idea of a joke?? Bad taste if it is meant to be a joke but some people will do anything to upset a bunch of people. i.e. bad virus' ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Gabriels in BC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: [MARSHALL] The LDS Library in Salt Lake City and record destruction > Hi everyone, recently I have received an email that I find awfully hard > to believe. Has anyone else heard of or received the same email from > someone claiming to live in Salt Lake City, stating that the LDS library is > about to destroy thousands of records? > > Part of the email I have received reads as follows: > It would go a long way if you would file a letter of protest with your > request to get copies. "Don't eliminate the Ancestrial File". It has great > value to your patrons. Please do not destroy it nor place it out of our > reach in the Granite Vault. (Sounds really urgent doesn't it. It is to the > ones using it. As I said, anyone who can value records submitted from 1976 > to 2000 needs to yell loudly and quickly.) > > Also request having someone go through the actual family group sheets that > were once held in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building on the 4th floor. The > whole collection of hundreds of books has been taken out of circulation and > are about to also be destroyed. Yell Loudly and ask if someone can look up > names in the actual paper submission on the FLAGG and Barstow lines if you > have an interest. > > Has anyone heard of this or received something like this? > > Thanks > Carol Gabriel > > List Admin > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Yes hopefully this is the case, and maybe someone else has mistranslated the information. If they are trying to playa joke, then it is in very poor taste. I shall have to look up the LDS website and see what they have to say. I received the email about the destruction of records through the Genealogy.com notification board. That is why I was wondering if this was real or not. Thanks for the help Carol List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] The LDS Library in Salt Lake City and record destruction > Could this be something that has come out of a misunderstanding ? The LD > Library is under going planned major renovations this summer and certain > collections will be temporarily moved around while the work is being done. > It is announced on the LDS web-site. > > Hopefully, this is the case. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Gabriels in BC" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:45 PM > Subject: [MARSHALL] The LDS Library in Salt Lake City and record destruction > > > > Hi everyone, recently I have received an email that I find awfully > hard > > to believe. Has anyone else heard of or received the same email from > > someone claiming to live in Salt Lake City, stating that the LDS library > is > > about to destroy thousands of records? > > > > Part of the email I have received reads as follows: > > It would go a long way if you would file a letter of protest with your > > request to get copies. "Don't eliminate the Ancestrial File". It has great > > value to your patrons. Please do not destroy it nor place it out of our > > reach in the Granite Vault. (Sounds really urgent doesn't it. It is to the > > ones using it. As I said, anyone who can value records submitted from 1976 > > to 2000 needs to yell loudly and quickly.) > > > > Also request having someone go through the actual family group sheets that > > were once held in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building on the 4th floor. The > > whole collection of hundreds of books has been taken out of circulation > and > > are about to also be destroyed. Yell Loudly and ask if someone can look up > > names in the actual paper submission on the FLAGG and Barstow lines if you > > have an interest. > > > > Has anyone heard of this or received something like this? > > > > Thanks > > Carol Gabriel > > > > List Admin > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Janice, you are right about things such as cancer running along genetic lines on our families. While we are documenting our ancestors we should also be doing a medical genealogy at the same time. My Cannon line (my dad's family) all have heart disease. Infact, last year on May 27th my grandfather, my dad's father died with problems due to cardiovascular disease. Then almost a year to the day, this past Thursday, May 20th, one of my grandfather's brothers dropped dead on the sidewalk of a massive heart attack. Knowing what our ancestors died from will be able to help us out in the future. You will be in our prayers Carol Gabriel List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ms.J.HANCOCK" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:15 PM Subject: [MARSHALL] O/T > Hi everyone- > I am Janice Marshall-Hancock and my ancestors were MARSHALL-HAWKINS paternal > side MUSIC-ALEXANDER maternal side. > > This may be off topic, but wanted you all to know that I "may" have lung > cancer. Cancer runs in my Hawkins and Musick side of the family. > > This is something to watch for as I believe we get the genes from our > ancestors. I guess you could say it is MEDICAL GENEALOGY. > > I won't know if the tumor in my right lung is cancer until I have surgery to > have the lower lobe removed and have a biopsy on it. > > Please remember me in yours prayers and positive thoughts. > > Regards and best wishes, > Janice Marshall-Hancock > > A daughter is just a little girl who grows up to be a friend. > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi everyone, recently I have received an email that I find awfully hard to believe. Has anyone else heard of or received the same email from someone claiming to live in Salt Lake City, stating that the LDS library is about to destroy thousands of records? Part of the email I have received reads as follows: It would go a long way if you would file a letter of protest with your request to get copies. "Don't eliminate the Ancestrial File". It has great value to your patrons. Please do not destroy it nor place it out of our reach in the Granite Vault. (Sounds really urgent doesn't it. It is to the ones using it. As I said, anyone who can value records submitted from 1976 to 2000 needs to yell loudly and quickly.) Also request having someone go through the actual family group sheets that were once held in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building on the 4th floor. The whole collection of hundreds of books has been taken out of circulation and are about to also be destroyed. Yell Loudly and ask if someone can look up names in the actual paper submission on the FLAGG and Barstow lines if you have an interest. Has anyone heard of this or received something like this? Thanks Carol Gabriel List Admin

I have a question for the list administrator. Please send me your email address. David Marshall [email protected]

I don't know where to write for them. I have looked in the databases available on the internet & through ancestry.com for the marriage. No results. No idea where to look for baptismal certificate. I'm open to suggestions. Lynn > Lyn, have you tried looking for a marriage certificate of maybe even a > baptismal certificate? Those could list his parents names. > > Good luck > Carol Gabriel > > List Admin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Visone" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] William Marshal > > > > My William H. Marshall was born in NC in or about 1832, married in TN abt > > 1854 to Martha C. Pickle, moved to Arkansas, then Illinois, then Kansas > > where he died 3 Jan 1877. I do not know anything about his parents. > Martha > > lived with a family named Legit (Leggit, Leggitt) but I don't know > anything > > else about her side, so I don't know of any Claggetts in my family. > > > > BTW, my dad's mother's maiden name was Palmer. > > > > Lynn Stewart Visone > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] William Marshal > > > > > > > In/re to William Marshall, I have no knowledge of a William Marshall in > > our > > > family. Do you have any Claggets or Clagetts, who were married to a > > Marshall. > > > We were located in Maryland and Washington, D.C. I am a Marshall and > have > > a > > > twin brother, John. My full name is Katherine Alice Marshall Palmer. > My > > twin > > > brothers name is John William Marshall. We are in our late 70's at this > > > time. My father wworked hard on the family tree when he was alive. I > > still have > > > most of it. Let me know where your family came from. Alice Marshall > > Palmer > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Lyn, have you tried looking for a marriage certificate of maybe even a baptismal certificate? Those could list his parents names. Good luck Carol Gabriel List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Visone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] William Marshal > My William H. Marshall was born in NC in or about 1832, married in TN abt > 1854 to Martha C. Pickle, moved to Arkansas, then Illinois, then Kansas > where he died 3 Jan 1877. I do not know anything about his parents. Martha > lived with a family named Legit (Leggit, Leggitt) but I don't know anything > else about her side, so I don't know of any Claggetts in my family. > > BTW, my dad's mother's maiden name was Palmer. > > Lynn Stewart Visone > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] William Marshal > > > > In/re to William Marshall, I have no knowledge of a William Marshall in > our > > family. Do you have any Claggets or Clagetts, who were married to a > Marshall. > > We were located in Maryland and Washington, D.C. I am a Marshall and have > a > > twin brother, John. My full name is Katherine Alice Marshall Palmer. My > twin > > brothers name is John William Marshall. We are in our late 70's at this > > time. My father wworked hard on the family tree when he was alive. I > still have > > most of it. Let me know where your family came from. Alice Marshall > Palmer > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Carol for your time and efforts. However there seems to be a gap between Generation 18 and 22 that was on message #4 I believe. could you send this part 4 again Many Thanks. -- The Family Tree for the James Marshall family site is www.geocities.com/hayesliner2002/

Last Thursday (13th) I sent a note to several of the lists to which I subscribe telling you that the Consanguinity or Kinship Chart had been revised. At that time the counter was 184813. Now, just two days later (15th) it is already up to 185107 and still climbing. An increase of 294 hits in just two days is fantastic! Thanks so much. Perhaps it's proving to be of some value. I hope so. Please feel free to add a link to your own website if you'd like. Just click on the word "Link" near the bottom of that page. The Chart is at http://john.rootsweb.com/Longstreet/consangu.html Regards, John New Orleans __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/

My William H. Marshall was born in NC in or about 1832, married in TN abt 1854 to Martha C. Pickle, moved to Arkansas, then Illinois, then Kansas where he died 3 Jan 1877. I do not know anything about his parents. Martha lived with a family named Legit (Leggit, Leggitt) but I don't know anything else about her side, so I don't know of any Claggetts in my family. BTW, my dad's mother's maiden name was Palmer. Lynn Stewart Visone ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MARSHALL] William Marshal > In/re to William Marshall, I have no knowledge of a William Marshall in our > family. Do you have any Claggets or Clagetts, who were married to a Marshall. > We were located in Maryland and Washington, D.C. I am a Marshall and have a > twin brother, John. My full name is Katherine Alice Marshall Palmer. My twin > brothers name is John William Marshall. We are in our late 70's at this > time. My father wworked hard on the family tree when he was alive. I still have > most of it. Let me know where your family came from. Alice Marshall Palmer > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >