Is anybody looking for Markham's in this county? I am interested in the F. M. Marcum listed below, he just might be my Francis Marion Markham that is in Lavaca Co., Texas by 1851. Gary Blakely blakely@flash.net 1850 Yalobusha County, Mississippi Page 377 29 AUG 1850 N. Marcum 33 M TN Planter Elizabeth 26 F AL Martha 9 F AL John 8 M AL Sarah 6 F AL Georgann 5 F AL Henry 2 M MS Franklin 1 M MS Page 381 31 AUG 1850 F. M. Marcum 22 M AL Planter T. H. Reden? 18 M NC Page 408 25 SEP 1850 Carroll Marcum 28 M KY Planter Jane 27 F TN Adeline 7 F MS Sarah 5 F MS Lucy 2 F MS Eliza 10/12 F MS Page 428 26 OCT 1850 Samuel Marcum 33 M TN Planter Nancy 30 F TN John 13/12 M MS Rebecca E. Scott 10 F TN

I do not know the date of when I became a subscriber I thought it was 97 but it could have be early 98.

Hi Joan, Don't feel bad because I wasn't on it either. I had been given the location of the list by Betty Damron so I don't know if I was considered an actual member or not. Rhoda

I am rather new to the Mailing List. I enjoy all the E-Mail messages and they have been a valuable resource for me. I must thank Rosemary...she has been a valuable resource for the Kentucky (Wayne/Pulaski/Somerset) sides of my family. Thanks to all the researchers... ray taylor tnemelcy@wk.net

Dear List Members: I was new to the Markham Mail List some 18 month ago, and I know what a wonderful thing it was for me when I joined. I had been groping around for about twenty years before, trying the best that I could, to document my family's history. When I subscribed to the list it took me at warp speed to where I am now, and that is very very much further than I was. It is especially good to hear from Brenda in her letter of May 6, as she was an inspiration and very helpful to me in my trek through the past. I now have a Home Page that is full of My Markham History and Many Pictures of Bedford County, Virginia. The inspiration to this work came from becoming a member of the Markham List. Last Summer a group of Markham's that had roots in Botetourt County, Virginia, especially the Jennings Creek Area, cleaned the John Markham Cemetery in that area. This project was brought to the forefront and to its actual happening by being supported by the Markham Mail List. There is no stopping as to the benefits of this list, and I give it my fullest support. Thank You Brenda. Your Cousin, Tommy Thomas A. Markham markm@ictransnet.com Researching: MARKHAM, LEE, LOWRY ASHLEY, TINGEN, WATTS FUQUA, HARDY, JONES and JOHNSON Check Out My Home Page At: http://www.geocities.com/markm_34974/index.htm

Thanks to all of you for your responses. It brought back old memories to hear from some of you again. I think that Curtis probably hit the nail on the head with the list he shared with us. I came up with the count of 31 from that list. For some of you that have not been around that long, you may want to take a look at the archives from 1997. You can access these archives by clicking on the blue link <A HREF="http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl">Ro otsWeb Mailing Lists -- Interactive Search</A> and keying in the name MARKHAM for your first search. We shared alot of records back then and you may find them useful. Make sure you bookmark this page as you will probably spend hours there. Ken wrote and asked about MAISER. It was a network much like ROOTSWEB and was very popular until the mailing lists overloaded the capacity of the server. This happened sometime in May of 1997 and we were afraid that we would lose the list but Rootsweb rescued many of Maiser's lists and that's how we came to be where we are today. As promised, I said I would update our current subscribers. That total comes to 271. I was surprised by that number. I think that's quite a jump from the last report that I gave. For those of you who have not posted to the list, you can see by these numbers that there is alot of knowledge out there. Most of us lurk in the shadows waiting for someone like you to post. As I mentioned earlier, there has been alot of records shared through this list, but it's up to you to let us know that you are here and seeking information. So if you haven't done so already, please post. We are all family and this family does SHARE. Thanks to all the old-timers for sticking around. I think that we bonded in the beginning and stay with the list not only looking for additional connections but for sentimental reasons. As for our newer subscribers, let us get to know you. Brenda Markham Listowner

Didn't the first list start in 1995 or 1996 sometime on Maiser?. Was Maiser a name for a computer, network, or program ?.

Mye Goodye Cosynes, I am looking to add more Markham books to the "TW" website for all of us to enjoy. Some-one did a look-up for me at the Ohio LDS and here are some items that caught my beady little eye: ______________________________________________________________________ Markham family histories, ca. 1592-ca1981, Jones, Lucretia Markham ______________________________________________________________________ Markham genealogical records, Markham, Dewey Wallace, 1926- ______________________________________________________________________ Markham genealogical records, ca. 1668-1850, Whitcomb, Dorothy Markham ______________________________________________________________________ Markham, Marcum, Markum, & Marcome family records from Virginia, Bell, Annie W.B. (Annie Walker Burns), b. 1894 ______________________________________________________________________ The Marshall family: or a genealogical chart of the descendants of John Marshall and Elizabeth Markham, his wife, sketches of individuals, and notices of families connected with them, Paxton, W.M. (William McClung), 1819-1916 [I would be interested in seeing these pictures of Elizabeth and John from this book !!!] ______________________________________________________________________ Records of the Markham family of Connecticut ______________________________________________________________________ Markham: the church and parish, Markham, Clement Robert ______________________________________________________________________ I would like to know more on the following: ______________________________________________________________________ Confederate States of America. Army. Virginia Infantry Regiment. Markham Guards (1861) ______________________________________________________________________ For those who had problems trying access the second page of the "TW" website, I have removed the Javascripts, so you should not have any more problems I hope. ______________________________________________________________________ Yours Sincerely, Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B., (95). [A Phenomenal Researcher In The Mists Of Time] [Genealogist Extra-Ordinaire]

"The Mother's Day version of this worm is quite cunning", comments Mikko Hypponen, Manager of Anti-Virus Research at F-Secure Corporation. "The e-mail appears to be a confirmation of an order for 'Mother's Day diamond special', and the attached file mothersday.vbs is portrayed as if it were an invoice. When users get such e-mails they assume there is some mistake and will naturally open the attachment - infecting their computer. With only eight days to go until Mother's Day, this attack is quite credible." The worm arrives in an e-mail message attachment called mothersday.vbs. On a default Windows system, the ".vbs" extension is not visible. If the recipient opens the attachment, the worm will use Microsoft Outlook (if installed) to send a message to everyone in any address books (including global access books of the organization; these typically contains hundreds or thousands of addresses). The message looks like this: From: Name-of-the-infected-user To: Random-name-from-the-address-book Subject: Mothers Day Order Confirmation We have proceeded to charge your credit card for the amount of $326.92 for the mothers day diamond special. We have attached a detailed invoice to this email. Please print out the attachment and keep it in a safe place.Thanks Again and Have a Happy Mothers Day! mothersday@subdimension.com Attachment: mothersday.vbs As address books typically contain group addresses, the result of executing the VBS/LoveLetter worm inside an organization is that the first infected user sends the message to everybody in the organization. After this, other users open the message and send the message again to everyone else. This quickly overloads e-mail servers. In addition, this worm deletes all INI and BAT files from all drives and directories. This may leave the system in an unbootable state and might do serious damage to network files. This variant is detected as VBS/LoveLetter.E by F-Secure Anti-Virus. Like the original version of the worm, VBS/LoveLetter.E is written in the VBScript language. The other known variants of the worm are known as VBS/LoveLetter.A, B, C and D. The A variant was the original LoveLetter worm. The B variant has been modified in Lithuania, and the subject field of the sent e-mail messages is "Susitikim shi vakara kavos puodukui...", which in Lithuanian means "Let's meet this evening for a cup of coffee..." The C variant has the subject field of "fwd: Joke" and the attachment is called "Very Funny.vbs" The D variant is almost identical to the original LoveLetter worm. It has been modified slightly, probably to make it undetectable to some anti-virus programs. A technical description of the worm is available in the F-Secure virus description database at: http://www.F-Secure.com/v-descs/love.htm Sample pictures of e-mail messages generated by VBS/LoveLetter are available in the F-Secure virus screenshots center at: http://www.F-Secure.com/virus-info/v-pics/

Brenda, My first communication from you was dated 97-02-23. The "To:" list follows: marcum@dayton.bassinc.com, ChazTuna, JG1044 mleekham@postoffice.worldnet.att.net JMark@ix.netcom.com, HWClark@ix.netcom.com Erinf5119, PantherDJ1, AAHouse, mmarkham@mdc.com JAQULYNB, DrgnKpr1, marcum@hula.net jrperry@earthlink.net, EJParrish, NMarkham George5609@worldnet.att.net melville-vaughn@cclink.net.uokhsc.edu bjstock@jag.net, NClark1976, judymay@tenet.edu marma@ee.net, BAYWATCH4U tcward@www.columbus-ks.com, dianaa@erinet.com rlsmith@iac.net, rik_vigeland@mentorg.com, PiraF CMore60515, DAWNDOL, noel@defcen.gov.au 0496588@nptmc.eskom.co.za Curtis Hartwig c.hartwig@worldnet.att.net alias NMarkham

Brenda, Time does fly, didn't realize I had been on the list that long. However, my name is spelled Shields (I before E!) Thanks for all your hard work. Rosemary P.S. Leslie Ashman is also a Wayne Co, KY descendant, although she lives in Australia. >From: Rhoda Dian Marcum <rdmarcum@rica.net> >Reply-To: rdmarcum@rica.net >To: MARKHAM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: To Brenda Marble-list members >Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 10:05:58 -0700 > >Dear Brenda, >I think this might help some. I kept it when we started because I was >pretty new to internet sites. It was put on the list on Jun 21, 1997 >and it was the most up-to-date list of Markham list subscribers then. I >believe it was submitted by Pam Garrett. > >Donald William Markham-dawndol@aol.com (connection to Northeastern US) >Sandy Russell-yesco7a@prodigy.com (Escondido, CA) >Curtis Hartwig-c.hartwig@worldnet.att.net (desc. Daniel Deacom Markham) >Cissi-misscissi@aol.com (Mary Markham of Mass and NY) >Hugh Markham-hmarkham@nni.com (desc. Daniel Deacon Markham) >Irving Morey-urmj45a@prodigy.com ( Lakeland, CA) >Jim Tupitza-Jim_Tupitza@msn.com (desc. Daniel Deacon Markham) >Brenda Marble-bmarble@aol.com (Missouri) >Betty Damron-BityDamron@aol.com (Waxahachie, TX) >Jack Perry-jrperry@earthlink.net (Louisville, Ky) >Charlie Leighton-ChazTuna@aol.com (Markham-Bedford Co, VA) >Melvin L. Markham-mleekham@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Bedford Co VA) >Tom and Carolyn Ward-tcward@www.columbus-ks.com (Columbus, KN) >Bonnie Johnston Miller-johnstbs@ucrwcu.rwc.uc.edu >Bob Scott-bobwscott@aol.com >Claire Morelli-cmore60515@aol.com (Wayne Co, Ky Markhams) >Noel and Leslie Ashman-noel@defcen.gov.au (Australia) >Rosemary Sheilds-rory70@juno.com (Wayne Co Ky) >Chris Marcum-marcum@dayton.bassinc.com (Lee Co VA) >Carol Clark-baywatch4u@aol.com >rik_vigeland@mentorg.com >Diana Beal Amey-Dianaar@aol.com ( Luther Markham, TN, Lee Co VA) >Mike Markham-mmarkham@mdc.com (Lee Co VA) >Judi Galloway-jg1044@aol.com (Houston, TX) >Genie Holt-hawkholt@aol.com (Arkansas Markhams) >Kim Melchor-kimelch@aol.com (Clark, Ark. Markhams) >Pam Garrett-pamhutgar@aol.com (Oklahoma City) >Clare Patteson Braden-Rio Pride@aol.com (Harlingen, TX) >Arvin House-AAHouse@aol.com (Markhams of N.C.) >Slade Anderson-Hawkeye350@aol.com >rlsmith@iac.net >HwClark@ix.netcom.com >DLRC1967@aol.com >Pantherdj1@aol.com >ErinF5119@aol.com >Larry Marcum-Marcum@hula.net (Kailua, Hawaii) >Claudia Parrish-EJParrish@aol.com (Ark.) >Doris Linblad and Cheryl Bray-DrgnKprl@aol.com (Robert Markham) >Jmark@ix.netcom.com >melville.vaughan@cclink.net.uokhsc.edu >Ann Gabbert-agabbert@aol.com (Prince George Co VA Markhams) >Jackie Bushnell-jaqulynb@aol.com (Washington State) >Lrudd@aol.com >Dcurry2365@aol.com >G888@aol.com >bkm@melbpc.org.au >armarcum@preferred.com >Theresa Wright-twright@ctllc.com (Wayne Co ILL. Markhams) >chet@bdt.com >Jill Joseph-jej@archone.tamu.edu (England to Ohio) >MRMarkham@aol.com >Jmarkham@ix.netcom.com >Romona-rwilli7315@aol.com (Melinda Marcum m. Elias Williamson) >JFMarkham@aol.com >rac15025@nwrain.com >lessandy@highway1.com >Cathy Marvel-cmarvel@adsnet.com >Frances Bruce-FBruce3554@aol.com (Josiah Markham-Tn to TX) >Jim Fristoe-jfristoe@augusta.net (Evans, Georgia) >Lyn Baker-lbaker@cnz.com (Marcum in Jackson Co Ky) >Lin Markum-Lmarkum@aol.com (Markum in Texas 1900's) >De Lewis-dlewis3@ix.netcom.com (Leander Marcum Warren Co TN) >Yonya96@aol.com > >Hope this helps you find those original ones. >Rhoda Marcum Burks > > >==== MARKHAM Mailing List ==== >Markham Associated Web Page >Check out Jack Perry's Home Page at >http://Perry-family.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Brenda, I think this might help some. I kept it when we started because I was pretty new to internet sites. It was put on the list on Jun 21, 1997 and it was the most up-to-date list of Markham list subscribers then. I believe it was submitted by Pam Garrett. Donald William Markham-dawndol@aol.com (connection to Northeastern US) Sandy Russell-yesco7a@prodigy.com (Escondido, CA) Curtis Hartwig-c.hartwig@worldnet.att.net (desc. Daniel Deacom Markham) Cissi-misscissi@aol.com (Mary Markham of Mass and NY) Hugh Markham-hmarkham@nni.com (desc. Daniel Deacon Markham) Irving Morey-urmj45a@prodigy.com ( Lakeland, CA) Jim Tupitza-Jim_Tupitza@msn.com (desc. Daniel Deacon Markham) Brenda Marble-bmarble@aol.com (Missouri) Betty Damron-BityDamron@aol.com (Waxahachie, TX) Jack Perry-jrperry@earthlink.net (Louisville, Ky) Charlie Leighton-ChazTuna@aol.com (Markham-Bedford Co, VA) Melvin L. Markham-mleekham@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Bedford Co VA) Tom and Carolyn Ward-tcward@www.columbus-ks.com (Columbus, KN) Bonnie Johnston Miller-johnstbs@ucrwcu.rwc.uc.edu Bob Scott-bobwscott@aol.com Claire Morelli-cmore60515@aol.com (Wayne Co, Ky Markhams) Noel and Leslie Ashman-noel@defcen.gov.au (Australia) Rosemary Sheilds-rory70@juno.com (Wayne Co Ky) Chris Marcum-marcum@dayton.bassinc.com (Lee Co VA) Carol Clark-baywatch4u@aol.com rik_vigeland@mentorg.com Diana Beal Amey-Dianaar@aol.com ( Luther Markham, TN, Lee Co VA) Mike Markham-mmarkham@mdc.com (Lee Co VA) Judi Galloway-jg1044@aol.com (Houston, TX) Genie Holt-hawkholt@aol.com (Arkansas Markhams) Kim Melchor-kimelch@aol.com (Clark, Ark. Markhams) Pam Garrett-pamhutgar@aol.com (Oklahoma City) Clare Patteson Braden-Rio Pride@aol.com (Harlingen, TX) Arvin House-AAHouse@aol.com (Markhams of N.C.) Slade Anderson-Hawkeye350@aol.com rlsmith@iac.net HwClark@ix.netcom.com DLRC1967@aol.com Pantherdj1@aol.com ErinF5119@aol.com Larry Marcum-Marcum@hula.net (Kailua, Hawaii) Claudia Parrish-EJParrish@aol.com (Ark.) Doris Linblad and Cheryl Bray-DrgnKprl@aol.com (Robert Markham) Jmark@ix.netcom.com melville.vaughan@cclink.net.uokhsc.edu Ann Gabbert-agabbert@aol.com (Prince George Co VA Markhams) Jackie Bushnell-jaqulynb@aol.com (Washington State) Lrudd@aol.com Dcurry2365@aol.com G888@aol.com bkm@melbpc.org.au armarcum@preferred.com Theresa Wright-twright@ctllc.com (Wayne Co ILL. Markhams) chet@bdt.com Jill Joseph-jej@archone.tamu.edu (England to Ohio) MRMarkham@aol.com Jmarkham@ix.netcom.com Romona-rwilli7315@aol.com (Melinda Marcum m. Elias Williamson) JFMarkham@aol.com rac15025@nwrain.com lessandy@highway1.com Cathy Marvel-cmarvel@adsnet.com Frances Bruce-FBruce3554@aol.com (Josiah Markham-Tn to TX) Jim Fristoe-jfristoe@augusta.net (Evans, Georgia) Lyn Baker-lbaker@cnz.com (Marcum in Jackson Co Ky) Lin Markum-Lmarkum@aol.com (Markum in Texas 1900's) De Lewis-dlewis3@ix.netcom.com (Leander Marcum Warren Co TN) Yonya96@aol.com Hope this helps you find those original ones. Rhoda Marcum Burks

Ken has asked me to prepare an introductory page about the Markham list for his website. I know that the first posting to the list was on Mar 6, 1997. I am trying to remember how many subscribers we had at the beginning and was thinking it was somewhere between 16 and 18. Do any of you remember? This would have been the list that began with Maiser (haven't heard that one for a long time, have you?) Anyway, I would like for the original list members to contact me, through the list, and let me know how many of you are still here. We worked very, very hard together back then and I think you all deserve some recognition. I haven't done a recent count of our current subscribers will be try to get that info to all of you within the next week or so. My cemetery project should be wrapping up around September or October. I'm pushing very hard to get it done as I am expecting a GRANDSON in September and I'm sure that my granddaughter will be needing some extra attention since she wants "NO BABY". Drop a line and let me know if you are still here and/or if you remember our starting head count. Thanks Brenda Markham Listowner

A new virus was released today is spreading fast and has already infected users on campus. If you receive an attachment as follows Subject: ILOVEYOU Body: kindly check the attached LOVELETTER coming from me. Attachment: LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs Delete the message immediately, do not open it! Below is more info on what this virus does: VBS/LoveLetter is a VBScript worm. It spreads thru email as a chain letter. The worm uses the Outlook e-mail application to spread. LoveLetter is also a overwriting VBS virus, and it spreads itself using mIRC client as well. When it is executed, it first copies itself to Windows System directory as: - MSKernel32.vbs - LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs and to Windows directory: - Win32DLL.vbs Then it adds itself to registry, so it will be executed when the system is restarted. The registry keys that it adds are: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run\MSKernel32 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\RunServices\Win32DLL Next the worm replaces the Internet Explorer home page with a link that points to an executable program, "WIN-BUGSFIX.exe". If the file is downloaded, the worm adds this to registry as well; causing that the program will be executed when the system is restarted. After that, the worm creates a HTML file, "LOVE-LETTER-FOR- YOU.HTM", to the Windows System directory. This file contains the worm, and it will be sent using mIRC whenever the user joins an IRC channel. Then the worm will use Outlook to mass mail itself to everyone in each address book. The message that it sends will be as follows: Subject: ILOVEYOU Body: kindly check the attached LOVELETTER coming from me. Attachment: LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs { INCLUDEPICTURE "http://www.europe.datafellows.com/virus-info/v-pics/love1.jpg" \* MERGEFORMATINET }_ LoveLetter sends the mail once to each recipient. After a mail has been sent, it adds a marker to the registry and does not mass mail itself any more. The virus then searches for certain filetypes on all folders on all local and remote drives and overwrites them with its own code. The files that are overwritten have either "vbs" or "vbe" extension. For the files with the following extensions: ".js", ".jse", ".css", ".wsh", ".sct" and ".hta", the virus will create a new file with the same name, but using the extension ".vbs". The original file will be deleted. Next the the virus locates files with ".jpg", ".jpeg", ".mp3" or ".mp2", adds a new file next to it and deletes the original file. For example, a picture named "pic.jpg" will cause a new file called "pic.jpg.vbs" to be created. LoveLetter was found globally in-the-wild on May 4th, 2000. It looks like the virus is Philippine origin. At the beginning of the code, the virus contains the following text: rem barok -loveletter(vbe) <i hate go to school>

Dear Readers, I just finished this and thought everyone would find it interesting. I know some of you have heard us Wayne Co WV Marcums discussing a McDonald -Marcum and trying to pinpoint who it was. This report just gives all info I've ever been sent or found on the subject. It'll prove interesting that so many different lines have it and some that were removed from that group of Marcums for several generations have even heard it. Like mine. McDonald-Marcum Mystery Josiah's Father was the Original McDonald: "My father, Luther F. Damron, said that the father of Josiah Silas Marcum was Silas MacDonald who changed his name from MacDonald to Marcum. This Silas MacDonald had lived with a family by the name of Marcum, and adopted the Marcum name from possibly his step-father." -From Harry Marcum, an interview by Luther F. Damron to Retta D. Hatfield -Vernia Brooks letters 5 & 8-Mary Ann Canterbury's summary of Josiah Marcum My comments: I don't really know where people have come up with Josiah's middle name being Silas. I have looked at Deeds over in Wayne Co WV and none mention even a middle initial for him. I do know of a grandson named Josiah Cyrus Marcum. I am not sure if someone may have mixed this person up with the older Josiah since their names are the same. Eda McDonald Marcum was the Original McDonald: Josiah married Eda McDonald @1778. - Lineage Book DAR by Amy Cresswell Dunne-Genealogical History. Vol. 134 p. 41. Pub. Washington D.C. 1917 or 1933. {Josiah Marcum m. Eada McDonald}. From Richmond Va State Archives. (Mar 1992) In 1787, Montgomery Co VA, a common law case, book #531 (misc. record) was entered into the courts. It was Henry McDonald vs. Josiah Markum. -The East Kentuckian, Journal of Genealogy and History, June 1978, Vol. XIV, No. 1, p.12 (this has a chronological record of sources for Josiah Marcum throughout his life.) My comments: I believe that the above Henry McDonald may have been somehow attached to Eda McDonald. Since it was a common law case and Josiah and Eda had been having children for about 7 years, a predicament must have came to pass. Either Eda left her husband Henry McDonald and took up with Josiah Marcum, and Henry wasn't happy about it; or this could be Eda's father and he wasn't happy that the couple wasn't married yet. Since Henry McDonald brought the case before the courts, he was the wounded party. Of course, my comments are my own and not what actually happened. Just figuring how the puzzle was laid out. Eda McDonald was believed to be the relative of Bryan McDonald who's widow came in about 1804 to what is now Logan Co WV with six sons and one daughter. Bryan McDonald was the son of Edward McDonald who had settled in New Castle, Delaware. -'Wayne Co Roots', article " Marcum Family Background" by June B. Ashworth. (M KY 9) "I don't think we'll ever get that straight any farther back than Jake. The Josiah and McDonald business is hard to unravel. I've always heard she (Eda) was a McDonald or MacDonald and had 2 sons when she married him. Those two sons are our Stonecoal line or so it goes--handed down from generation to the next and no documents of proof either way." -Elena Chaffins letter to Ruth Kazee "But the speculation of many years as to the identity of Josiah Marcum and his wives continue, I believe that the "McDonald" thing is a complete fabrication, based on the fact that Josiah indeed did have 2 wives and children by both. I do not know if Eadie died or was divorced but probably died as many young women did in those hard times. The "McDonald Marcums" came into being when they wanted to distinguish themselves from the second family, (wanting to do this in respect of their mother). Thus Jacob, Mose, Stephen, and Joseph were McDonald Marcums and the rest...were by Polly... William, John C., Randall, Thomas, Rebecca, and Clara. The second family produced some exceedingly outstanding men such as your John C. whom I'm proud to find in my genealogy.... but I think the old folks got their facts mixed up about the Marcums being McDonalds from Ireland, etc...." -email from Columbus C. Marcum on Eadie McDonald Marcum, on 18 June 1998.- 1827 Lawrence Co Ky Court Document of Josiah's pension hearing. From James Browning. (M Ky 9) (this source mentions a wife, Polly) My comments: I don't know what happened to Eda McDonald Marcum. Not much is found on her in records. The only true source that shows her children are two births in Washington Co VA for the sons, Jacob and Stephen. Researchers don't even know her birth or parents names. I did find, as others have, a divorce petition in 1823 for Lydia Sutherland Marcum against William Marcum in the book, Lawrence Co, Kentucky Abstracts of Circuit Court Records 1821- 1873, p.20. An Eda Marcum is mentioned here, but there were two Eda Marcums at that point in time; Eda Bryant Marcum and Eda McDonald Marcum. The key clue in this divorce that leads me to think its Eda McDonald is the Eda Marcum who gave a deposition on June 21, 1824 along with Alex and Elizabeth Sutherland, Lydia's parents, stated "they have known Lydia M. for 17 or more years." Well, we know the parents knew her for the " or more years", so this Eda Marcum knew her about 17 years. Eda McDonald: Lydia stated in the divorce she married William Marcum in 1809. Starting at the time of marriage and until the divorce, Eda McDonald would have know Lydia about 16 years as her daughter in law. Eda Bryant Marcum: married Moses in 1819 and would have only know Lydia for 5 years if we consider it in a family relationship angle. Unknown Marcum of Josiah Marcums age was Original Marcum: "An unknown Marcum came from Ireland, to America during the American Revolutionary War in 1775-1776. We have been told, that a brother came with him (this brothers name is not mentioned). They were Scotch-Irish decent. The unknown Marcum had a son, John C. Marcum born 1798 in Virginia." -from Mary Marcum Smalley's book on her ancestors. This was told to her by her grandfather, Randolph Marcum. "The first Marcum came to Jamestown. I've proof of where the Marcums came from in England. We think maybe some of the family Marcum-McDonalds came from Scotland originally." --Elena Chaffins letter to Ruth Kazee My comments: I was always told that our Marcums were Irish. Josiah Marcum/Markham was the Original McDonald: "Josiah McDonald come from Ireland and I gather he came alone when 14 years old and he boarded with this old family named Marcum and he wanted to join the Revolutionary War and wasn't old enough, so by taking the old man Marcum's name and having him sign for him, he could join as a drummer boy. This took place in what was then called Burks Garden, VA" Ida went on to say, "The old Marcum that the McDonald-Marcum took the name from, now they was known as the Bullet-head Marcums. Now Kelly Marcum at Kermit, he was one of the Bullet-head Marcums. There's five or six groups of them; one of them's the Quill-back, Bullet-head, Big-Nose, Lick-Skillet, and the Witchy-Wylie Marcum's. That's all I know. And we're the Big-Noses." -The Mountain Call, March 1978, Vol. 1, No.5.Interview with Ida Belle Marcum, by Michael Fanning.(M WV 13) "Josiah Marcum was a McDonald from Ireland. He came over here with a Marcum family when he was just a boy and was raised by them." -Fred Lambert Papers at Marshall University.(mentioned in a letter from his grandchild that lived at Fort Gay) "Josiah Marcum was told by his parents that he was born 2 May 1759 in Chesterfield Co VA along the James River but he had no written evidence to prove the date." -The Herald Dispatch, article "Soldier of the Revolution-Josiah Marcum was Early Cabell Settler" (Sequi- Centennial Edition). The Advertiser, 1959 Huntington, WV. (from Brooks Letter 3); {source: Pension Application-Louisa, Lawrence Co Ky-age 73} (M WV 25) Josiah's parents were William Markham and Mary Walton/ Walthen. -DAR Lineage Book {states pension 1832}. DAR Patriot Index by National Society of the DAR. Pub.1966 Washington. Diamond Jubilee Administration. From Virginia Beach Pub. Library. (Jul 91) -Latter Day Saints church records, LDS Church, Waynesboro, VA, Rt. 250. (Information to LDS was submitted by Carl E. Lowe, Ashland, KY) My comments: It seems that the theory that Josiah was the McDonald is the strongest belief. What always puzzled me was that family folk lore had him as a McDonald how was adopted by Marcums and the other, as stated by himself in a pension application, he was born in 1759 in Chesterfield Co VA. These two opinions seem to contradict each other. Kelly Marcum b. 1844 was the Original McDonald: "Two family stories that I have always heard but have not been able to confirm; that my grandfather, Albert Allen Marcum was part Indian, and that his father, Kelly Marcum, was born McDonald-then changed his name to Marcum for the man who raised him. I now know that some other marcum researchers have heard the McDonald/Marcum story and it seems to go back to Josiah." -Vernia Brooks letter 1-9 Feb 1993 "It is interesting that you have heard the Marcum/McDonald story so positively about your Grover Cleveland Marcum while I heard it about my Kelly without a doubt. But I think it has been passed down for so long that each generation thought it was their grandfather. Will we ever know the whole truth?" -Vernia Brooks letter 4 -16 Jun 1993 George Washington Marcum b. 1878 was the Original McDonald: "I spent a lot of time when I was a child trying to learn the history. But grandfather Marcum told me he wasn't really a Marcum. He said (but he may have been pulling my leg, he was quite a joker) that his parents had been killed on a wagon train by Indians and the Marcums had taken him and raised him and he had taken their name. So I could go no farther. Have you heard of anything like this? He said his name was McDonald and his parents were McDonalds but I have no first names or anything. Also he had a brother named Dee who lived in Logan. This would be interesting to me." -Email from Janelle Marcum to Betty Damron on 9 Feb 2000. Samuel Marcum b. 1875-1880 was the Original McDonald: "My grandmother, Grace Marcum Heath, said her grandfather Samuel Marcum came from somewhere in England. He worked on a ship to pay passage to America. She believes his name was Sam McDonald. When he came to the USA he worked on a farm for a Mr. Marcum, and eventually took on his name. Sam Marcum then married Jeanette Kirk. They had a son, Ransom Marcum. I think they lived in Kentucky. I'm not sure how many other children they had. My grandmother said she remembers Ransom Marcum having about (4) 1/2 brothers with the last name of Blevins." -Tammy Harrington email on 30 Mar 1998. Grover Cleveland Marcum, Sr. b. 1888 was the Original McDonald: My Aunt Irene Marcum Meister, daughter of Grover C. Marcum, Sr. had always heard that her father was adopted. She said something must have happened to his original parents, who were McDonalds, and so he was taken in by William Marcum. -Irene Marcum Meister-28Jun1991, 16 Dec 1994 Grandma Rhoda Salmons Marcum, Cleve's wife, stayed with our family in her old age. My mother, Anita, said Rhoda told her that Cleve was adopted. Grandma Rhoda said that William Marcum couldn't have any children and wanted to carry on the Marcum name, and so he adopted Cleve from a McDonald family. -Anita Marie Marcum-4 May 1993,4 Dec 1994 What interested me was that so many different Marcums in many different locations heard this same story passed down. My line of Marcums came out of Wayne Co, WV in the 1930's and stayed in Bath Co, WV, then Goshen and finally settling in Augusta Co, VA. Our story was passed down that my Grandfather, Grover Cleveland Marcum, was adopted from a McDonald. It was said my great grandad couldn't have children so he adopted a son to carry on the name. Vernia Brooks had told me the same about her Granddad. Kelly Marcum. It was also said that a Marcum son was needed to carry the name forward. With all four men mentioned in the upper paragraphs, they are 3 to 4 generations forward from Josiah Marcum. It is coincidental that these two men, Grover C. and Kelly, both descended from John C. Marcum. (Vernia Brooks believes that Kelly's line comes from Stephen Marcum). But in reading the paragraph stated by Mary Marcum Smalley far above about an "Unknown Marcum being the original Marcum", kind of makes you wonder if all this mystery and mystic surrounded John C. Marcum. And John C's father. The only one that I have not found a connection to our Marcums back to Josiah is Samuel Marcum who married Ginetta (Jeanette)Kirk. I found a marriage for Ransom, Samuel's son, and it mentioned his father as Samuel Marcum. I also have a Samuel that is in the right age bracket and he had a brother Ransom, which is an uncommon name. If this is the right connection for Samuel the he and George Washington Marcum have a close connection, both coming through Jacob Marcum and then Josiah. There is no telling where this will all lead or if we'll ever know the truth. More information may come to pass in the future but for now this will currently be a mystery for all those trying to trace the past to find Josiah's true roots. There is a story about how we came by our names in the scheme of things. I have been told this joke/story by several people over the years and it is very cute. I may not tell it the way it should be told but you'll get the idea: "There was a line of people at the Pearly Gates waiting to receive their names before descending to earth. All of the people had went through and received a name except for the last man. The name giver looked down at his book and looked up at the man and said, "I'm sorry but I seem to have run out of names." Another that had received his name said, "Just mark ‘em down , anyway. He can't go down without a name." Compiled by Rhoda Marcum Burks, May 1, 2000 email: rdmarcum@rica.net Researcher of all lines of Marcums decending from Josiah Marcum in Wayne Co WV. If anyone has anymore stories to add to this one of a McDonald Adoption, please write to the list and tell us about it. Rhoda Marcum Burks

Mye Goodye Cosynes, The new MS Word 7 books on the "TW" website have been password protected. If you open the books in either MS Word 7 or just your MS IE5.xx, a dialog box appears and asked you for a password. If you look further on, there is a tab on this same dialog box for 'READ ONLY". Click on this tab and the file will open in a read only format, and can be printed etc. Yours Sincerely, Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B., (95). [A Phenomenal Researcher In The Mists Of Time] [Genealogist Extra-Ordinaire]

Mye Goodye Cosynes, "I am interested in tracing any relatives of my great, great, great, great grandfather John MARKHAM who married Elizabeth TEMPLAR on Sunday 1 August 1784 at Ambrosden, a village in Oxfordshire. Is the person looking for more information on this line, still on this list ?... Yours Sincerely, Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B., (95). [A Phenomenal Researcher In The Mists Of Time] [Genealogist Extra-Ordinaire]

Is Rev. Little who is pastor of the Church at East Markham still on this list ? ... or can someone furnish me with his e-mail address ??? Thanks C .C. Marcum http://members.citynet.net/wcghs " Compromise is giving what you have away a little at a time " --- C.C. Marcum---

Mye Goodye Cosynes, I will be posting the text version of this book to the MML on behalf of Dave Markham, NZ. Dave is busy compiling this book into a Word 7 document for the "TW" website. The following emails will be for CHAPTER I of this book. As this chapter is very long, I am breaking the postings up into many shorter mails. They will be in the order of: A HISTORY OF THE MARKHAM FAMILY [1], A HISTORY OF THE MARKHAM FAMILY [2], A HISTORY OF THE MARKHAM FAMILY [3], etc. These will also have to be done over a couple of days too, as is just too much for just one day to post to a Roots Mailing List. Dave Markham can be contacted here: davemark@ihug.co.nz PLEASE NOTE: This book is NOT yet available on the "TW" website. Yours Sincerely, Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B., (95). [A Phenomenal Researcher In The Mists Of Time] [Genealogist Extra-Ordinaire]

ROBERT MARKHAM, born at his father's seat of Sireton, in the year 1536, succeeded his grandfather Sir John in the family estates, and like him was a "valiant consumer of his paternal inheritance." He appears to have been in high esteem with Queen Elizabeth, and in constant attendance upon her. What his office was about the court does not appear, but he seems to have had a shrewd insight into all the intrigues of the time, and yet to have borne himself with great discretion. In a letter to his cousin Sir John Harrington, date 1598, we find a graphic description of the state of parties in the court, combined with much judicious and friendly advice, peculiarly adapted to those dangerous times. It runs as follows- "Notwithstanding the perilous state of our times, I shall not fail to give you such intelligence as may tende to your use and benefite. We have gotten goode accounte of some matters, and as I shall finde some safe conduct for bearinge them to you, it may from time to time happen that I sende you tydinges of our courtly concerns. Since your departure from hence you have been spoken of, and with no ill will, both by the nobles and the quene herselfe. Your booke* is almost forgiven, but not for its want of wit and satyre. Those whom you feared most are now bozominge themselves in the quene's grace; and though her highnesse signified displeasure in outwarde sorte, yet did she like the marrow of your booke. Your greate enemie Sir James did once mention the Starr Chamber, but your goode esteeme in better mindes outdid his endeavours, and all is silent again. The quene is minded to take you to her favour, but she swearethe that she believes you will make epigrams on her and all her courte; she hath been heard to saye, 'That merry poet my godson must not come to Greenwich, tille he hathe growne sober, and leaveth the ladies' sports and frolics." She did conceive much disquiet on being tolde you had aimed a schafte at Leicester; I wish you knew the author of that ill deed, I would not be in his best jerkin for a thousand marks. You yet stand well in her highnesse love, and I heare you are to go to Ireland with the Lieutenant Essex; if so, mark my counsel in this matter: I doubt not your valour nor your labour, but that damnable uncovered honestie will marr your fortunes. * A severe satire on persons in high station, called "Metamorphoses of Ajax," by Sir J. Harrington. "Observe the man who commandethe, and yet is commanded himselfe; he goethe not forthe to serve the queen's realm, but to humour his owne revenge. Be heedful of your bearings, speake not your mind to all you meet. I tell you I have grounds for my caution; Essex hath enemies; he hath friends too; now there are two or three of Mountjoy's kindred sente oute in your armie; they are to reporte all your conduct to us at home. As you love yourselfe, the quene, and me, discover not these matters: if I did not love you they had never been tolde; high concerns deserve high attention; you are to take account of all that passes in your expedition, and kepe journal thereof, unknowne to anie in the companie. This will be expected of you. I have reasons to give for this order; if the Lord Deputy performs in the field what he hath promised in the council all will be well: but, though the quene has granted forgiveness for his late demeanour in her presence, we know not what to thinke hereof. She hathe in all outwarde semblance placed confidence in the man who so lately sought other treatment at her hands. We do sometyme thinke one way, and sometyme another. What betydeth the Lord Deputy is known to him only who knowethe all; but when a man hath so many shewinge friends, and so many unshewinge enemies, who learneth his end here below? I say, do you not meddle in any sorte, nor give your jestinge too freely among them you know not; obey the lord Deputy in all things, but give not your opinion; it may be hearde in England. Tho' you obey, yet seem not advise in anye one pointe; your obeysance may be, and must be, construed well; but your councell may be ill thought of. You have now a secret from one that wishes you all welfare and honour. I know there are overlookers set on you all. So God direct your discretion. Sir William Knolles is not well pleased. The quene is not well pleased. The Lord Deputy may be pleased nowe, but i sore feare what may happen hereafter. The heart of man lieth close hid oftime; men do not carry it in their hand, nor should they do so that wish to thrive in these times and places; I say this that your owne honestie may not shewe itself too muche, and turn to your own ill favour. Stifle your understandinge as much as may be, minde your bookes, and make your jestes, but take heed who they light on. My love hath overcome almoste my confidence and truste which my truthe and place demandethe. I have saide too much for one in my occupation, and yet too little for a friend and kinsman, who putteth himselfe in this harde tryal for your advantage. You have difficult matters to encounter beside Tyrone and the rebels; there is little heed to be had to shewe of affection in state business: I finde thys by those I discourse with daily, and those too of the wiser sorte. If my Lord treasurer had lived longer, matters would go on surer. He was our greate pilote, on whom all caste their eyes and soughte their safety. The quene's highness doth often speake of him in tears, and turn asyde when he is discoursed of; nay even forbiddeth any mention to be made of his name in the council. This I learne by some friendes who are in good likinge with Lord Buckhurst. My sister* bearethe this to you, but doth not knowe what it containethe, nor would I disclose to any woman my dealinges in this sorte; for danger goeth abroad, and silence is the safest armour. The deathe of King Philip was good news to our realme. God did seeme to punish his vain glorie both in life and deathe; it is reported he was eaten up of loathsome vermin, and we knowe what troubles he endured aforetime, and yet got little good but in his Portugal businesse. God speede your journies and keepe you safelie to return to us againe. So wishethe and praiethe "Your lovinge kinsman and friende "ROB MARKHAM." * Sanchia, wife of William de Hardwicke. Thoroton describes a very singular contract entered into between Robert Markham and others, which may probably be accounted for on Markham's part from the scarcity he was reduced to by his extravagance. "In the year 1574, a threefold exchange was made between Robert Markham of Cotham, Esquire, who passed his lands in Kelvington, Alverton, and Balington† to Robert Staunton, Esquire, who passed his in Claypole to Anthony Thorold, Esquire, who passed his to Robert Markham. But Robert Staunton had the hardest bargain, for he gave not only six pounds per annum more rent of land to his cousin Thorold, but also forty pounds in money to his cousin Markham. This was, after two or three years' talking of, at length agreed on and affected at Cotham Sep: 18, 1574" † These seem to have been outlying estates, and the exchange was effected for the purpose of making each estate more compact. In the thirteenth of Elizabeth, Sir Robert Markham was knight of the shire for the county of Nottingham, and high sheriff in the same year. In the twenty-fifth year of the same reign he again served the office of high sheriff, and was elected again in the thirty-first of Elizabeth as knight of the shire for the same county. He was in considerable repute with his royal mistress, and was a stout man at arms, earning for himself a place in that distich of the maiden queen in which she celebrated her four Nottinghamshire knights. "Gervase the gentle,* Stanhope the stout, Markham the lion, and Sutton the lout." * Sir Gervase Clifton, of Clifton, called "gentle Sir Gervase." When Sir Robert died I have not discovered, but he was living during a great part of James the First's reign, as we find by a letter from "his goode cousin" Sir John Harrington, wherin he recounts the exploits of Essex against the rebels,dated 1606, thus outliving the disgrace of his kinsman Si r Griffin Markham, which for a time threw a cloud over the family. Sir Robert was married twice, first to Mary, daughter of Sir Francis Leeke, and secondly to Jane, daughter of William Burnell, by whom he had a son named Roger, who died without issue. By his first wife he had five sons, Robert, who succeeded him, Francis, Gervase, John, and Godfrey; and three daughters, the youngest of whom, named Gertrude, was married to Sir Thomas Sadleir of Standen Court in Hertfordshire. He was the son of Sir Ralph Sadleir, Knight Banneret, the eminent statesman and ambassador in the reign of Henry VIII. Sir Thomas and his wife Gertrude entertained James I. In his progress from Scotland A.D. 1603. They had issue one daughter Gertrude, and Ralph, of whom Isaac Walton makes Venator speak. "To-morrow morning we shall meete a pack of otter dogs of noble Mr. Sadlier, upon Amwell Hill, who will be there so early that they intend to prevent the sun rising." There is a monument of Sir Thomas and his lady in Standen church. Of the sons of Sir Robert we will first speak of Francis, who has given us a few interesting memoranda of his own life, which are so well calculated to point out the manner of the education of the cadets of good families in England at that time, that they are well worth reading. ...