I am going to shorten the flag in the subject to "Sams:" as that is how we are differentiated from the Georges on the Marjoribanks list. I guess one could call Roger's group the Lees though he may be the only one of his branch that is subscribed. I don't have names for the other branches subscribed to the list. On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:48:11 -0500 James Long <114625.3372@compuserve.com> writes: >Hi James, >Good idea, the contents of the trunk ould have >been John's inventory. I guess the stock was his >way of earning a little money in the new world. > >The kilt business I doubt. You doubt the legend that Samuel wore a kilt to church his 1st Sunday in America? There is some detail to that legend & one tends to believe legends that have more detail. Roger, do you doubt that legend too? I guess I have lived with the legend long enough to get comfortable with it (used to it) and accepted it. I should be more skeptical. >The Marjoribanks and other lowland Scots being in >the Thornhill settlement were a political move as >anything else. The British policy was to use >lowland Scots in Northern Ireland and in the >Scottish highlands to keep the locals under >control. I agree with all of that. >Notice there were only two Catholics in the town >of Thornhill. What is the page number in the Thornhill book for that? >The Highlanders would have had a considerable >Catholic population. Yep, but the Moss may not be technically in Thornhill. Does the book say where the Moss is? I'd assumed the bog they speak of is Poldar Moss and the adjacent & larger Flanders Moss. Both being adjacent & west & southwest of the Boquhapples, I'd think the M'bankses of Boquhapples & Thornhill would see them & especially when they come to town (Thornhill). Anyway perhaps the highlanders came from a protestant area or converted. At any rate I am merely going by what was said on page 43: "There were now 126 moss tenants in the parish together with their families giving a total of 640 people. By 1811, there were 886 people living and working on the moss. These new settlers were almost all Highlanders." I had assumed that that was equal to the number of people living in Thornhill or at least 25% as many as living in Thornhill. I suppose Lord Drummond or Napier decided to help out the Highland chiefs who were doing "clearances" & he would get tenants for bog land that had never had tenants. Perhaps he went to protestant areas or picked Highlanders willing to convert or maybe the highlanders fearing yet another clearance (deportation to Ireland) kept quiet about their Catholic leanings. I really wonder if the stats of "2 Catholics" included the bogs being they are on the opposite side of the Boquhapples from Thornhill & outside of the parish, mostly in Port of Menteith parish (see 2nd map on the web page below). Citing the maps again: http://Genealogy.Org/~green/Mbanks.html http://members.FortuneCity.Com/jgreen/Mbanks.html Then click on: 1 then 28 Thornhill. >Read 'Albion's Seed' by David H. Fischer. Interesting coincidence. My Confederate buddies are selling the book for $36 + Shipping & tax, but every time I try to buy it, the web site malfunctions when I try to enter each digit of my credit card. But I must be crazy thinking I could find time to read an 800 page book. A number of years ago, at a meeting of our Fairfield County Chapter of the SC Genealogical Society, the program was a detailed report of the contents of the book & the book sounds great & ever since then I've wanted a copy of the book. However I should probably read the Thornhill book first don't you think? >My Longs went to Cumberland Co, Pa in the middle >1700. That was the frontier and the British used >Scotch-Irish to be the frontier guards. >Allen >Please reply to longjaa@sbu.ac.uk > >Back to work today! -- James W. Green III/285 Agnew Rd/Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home: 803-635-9236 http://members.FortuneCity.Com/jgreen http://Genealogy.Org/~green & working on: http://freepages.genealogy.RootsWeb.Com/~jwg3 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.