On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:38:29 -0400 "R.J.Marjoribanks" <Rogmarj@compuserve.com> writes: >I'll see what I can find out - it might be worth >starting by checking the PRO indexes. >Unfortunately I won't be able to travel to Kew (not >that it's very far!) for some time as I'm about to >be engulfed in exam scripts. What's an exam script? >When I was last at the Chancery Lane branch of the >PRO (before everything was moved to Kew) I sifted >through several boxes of stuff on the '15 but >didn't come across any such lists as are mentioned >- maybe they have been collected since (It was >several years ago). I thought 6 months or a year ago you checked the Lancaster Assizes or some such for George. I know we (the list) were discussing George's home in the UK. Were you researching George at that time via snail mail, web pages of the BPRO, or your agent (I have forgotten his name)? The image I had was of you checking the Lancaster records in the National Archives (BPRO) in Chancery Lane. I have since learned from you & others that the archives has moved to near Kew Gardens, south of the Thames in London County. Leigh did not give her source, but said "The lists and indictments of the rebels of 1715 is identified as KB8/66. It is described as "Special oyer and terminer rolls and files, including informations and depositions", and is filed in two boxes. The box labelled "Part 1" contains seven folders or bound manuscripts, of which the folios have been numbered in a single series, ff. 1-132." I was thinking that all one would need to ask for was KB8/66 or at most: KB8/66 "Special oyer and terminer rolls and files, including informations and depositions" and if they were still lost or brought you something different than the following, you could show them what you expected is: "The box labelled "Part 1" contains seven folders or bound manuscripts, of which the folios have been numbered in a single series, ff. 1-132. The other is a very long box because some of the documents are three or four feet long. It contains Part 2 (ff. 133-201) and Part 3 (ff. 202-254)." Of course they will want to know the source (including date) of these words & Leigh will have to provide that. Leigh, is that from an email or web page? Man! This is a detailed description of the records! If it is an old description and they have microfilmed the records & have these boxes off limits or removed from boxes & stored in some other fashion &/or in another building, then we may have a problem. What struck me from Leigh's next paragraph: "Each folder bears the heading: "A list of ye Rebell Prisoners at [place], showing their Christian Names and surnames the Parish and county they dwelled In." {These records are all written in Latin.}" was you will finally have the home parish for George and can then see if they have the parish records for that parish & thus research his ancestors! I am excited for you Georges! On rereading this, I note it also says "A list of ye Rebell Prisoners at [place] ..." I had expected all of them to be in the dungeon of the castle at Lancaster. Perhaps I get this mental vision from watching Robin Hood on TV as a child. One of the American Bill of Rights was no billeting of troops in people's homes? Did the Brits billet prisoners in homes or just other jails around England? >As for the book, I suppose it's long out of print & >I'm none too sure where to start looking - Bob, >have you any ideas? I suppose I might contact the >publishers, who I believe are still in business >under the name Routledge Kegan Paul - mainly >associated with the R.C. Church. Leigh wrote: "a book published in 1895 by George Routledge and Sons, Limited titled "Preston Fight or The Insurrection of 1715" Reviewers say this book is historically correct." Leigh, what was the relevance of those words to the previous words? Were your previous words taken from that book? If so those boxes existed prior to 1895 when the book was written & I hope they are still in the boxes & can be found. Looking above, I do not see that it says the records were. It does not say London, Lancaster, Preston, or anywhere. I hope you George's will continue this discussion. I (a Sam) would do best to fall silent. This is your all's affair. >Roger > >Later:- I've e-mailed the P.R.O. enquiry desk & >hope for a reply this year, next year, sometime, >never! -- James W. Green III/285 Agnew Rd/Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home: 803-635-9236 http://www.Genealogy.Org/~green & http://millennium.fortunecity.com/byker/362/ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.