I'm looking for three ships, "Athol", "Cygnet" both with Edward Simmons as Master.  The "Fraternity" renamed "Providence and Mary" with master and owner(1780-1783).  Any information or links would be a great help.   Michael

Hello Michael, It is rather difficult to judge from the wording of your enquiry how much you already know.  The apparently ?earlier ships I have so far drawn a blank on, but the Providence and Mary was under Edward SImmons/Symmons/Simmonds certainly from September 1773.  She was a collier, operating out of Newcastle, and according to Lloyd's Register for 1779/80 was of 200 tons register, American-built in 1764, and Simmons was then listed as the master/owner. The 18th century newspapers report a sequence of movements over several years.  The collier Providence and Mary, under Edward Simmons, from Newcastle, was reported at the Port of London on 8 Sept. 1773, but on the 21 Sept. the ship was under another master, George Taylor.  She was next reported at London under Simmons on the 13 June 1774, out from "Borowstoness".  Further reports at London are dated 12 Oct. 1774 (Symmons); 5 Dec. (Taylor); and 29 Dec. (Simmons).  She passed by Gravesend out from Dunkirk on the 7 May 1775 (Symmons), and was at London from Newcastle again on 26 June (Simmons).  On the 7 July she was at London under another master, James Forster; 25 Oct. (Simmons); 23 Nov. (Taylor); 19 Dec. (Taylor) and 30 Dec. (Simmons).  She was again at London under Simmons on 2 June 1776, 28 June, and on the 14 Oct.   In April 1777 a Providence and Mary, under a Captain Glynn, from Cork to New York, was reported as "taken by the Provincials", but Simmons' ship was back in London on the 12 November.  Martin Jilson was her master on 18 Dec., and again on 28 January 1778, but "Simmon" was in command again on the 6 March. She arrived at London from "Trepton" under "Summons" on 13 July 1778, but this is the last mention of the vessel that I can find. At least this is a start, and I hope will be useful. Regards, Peter Klein ________________________________ From: MICHAEL MITCHESON <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 5 August 2013, 20:28 Subject: [MAR] Ships on the Tyne 1770-1783 I'm looking for three ships, "Athol", "Cygnet" both with Edward Simmons as Master.  The "Fraternity" renamed "Providence and Mary" with master and owner(1780-1783).  Any information or links would be a great help.   Michael ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message