Dear Jenny & Piers, Many thanks for your time and all your research on my behalf. Jenny to answer your question; John Mallin, ships carpenter, was the son of Michael Mallin. I don’t know his mother’s name, I’d be guessing. John was married to Mary Mangan in Dublin in 1848 and they had two sons Michael (1852) and John (1854). Therefore given the birthdates of his children I would think John was on the 1858 voyage. John’s wife died before he went to Australia and his children were reared by their grandparents. John died in Australia, don’t know when or where. I think he has an accident and it may have been something to do with his gold mining activities in the Bendigo area. That’s all I know. Piers would you know who bought the INDUSTRY and what became of her? Also what was the role of the agent T.H. Martin, Forrest and Co were they the ship owners? Thank you for the reference number to the crew list, the next time I’m in London, I’ll look it up at the National Archives. Again, much obliged for all your help. Best wishes , Seán Tapley

I'm not 100% confident now about my identification of her official number following my digging around in the newspapers, I'll have to think about it as there are some discrepancies, over tonnage etc. However, an interesting story emerges about whatever ship named INDUSTRY made it to Melbourne in 1858. I suggest you have a look through the Australian Newspapers on the Trove site, bearing in mind that there was more than one vessel of that name, and that reporting isn't 100% accurate. If you search "barque industry" in trove and then "hulk industry" in the NZ "Papers Past" site, and Google, you will find the following tale:- You will recall that Industry arrived at Melbourne in May 1858. She was put up for sale in August 1858 but it appears she didn't sell. The suggestion that she was built of Irish oak, imported to Canada, sounds quite preposterous *http://tinyurl.com/l3f8hrd . * In September 1858 she was still in port and a French ship discharged ballast and equipment into her. She was sold in January 1859 for £800, and was stated as being "about 23 years old" (ie built c.1835) see *http://tinyurl.com/nurf4cp .* . The Argus reported on the 8th January that she had been sold to New Zealand owners and had been refitted to carry 2000 head of sheep to New Zealand, where she was intended to be turned into a coal hulk. * http://tinyurl.com/qdg6wud . *A New Zealand newspaper reported her as being 700 tons, and referred to her being intended to be hulked at Port Chalmers (ie Dunedin). Her new owner appears to have been a John Jones. * http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b* <http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b> She cleared from Hobsons Bay on 19th January; her master being reported as "W.R. Stephenson" *http://tinyurl.com/nf2dqm3 * Then "The barque *Industry*, bound for Otago, commenced taking in sheep on Thursday morning (Feb. 3.) alongside the Williamstown Railway Pier, and completed her loading of 1700 ewes, with which she hauled off before dark". -*Argus*. *http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b* She sailed on February 6th 1859 for New Zealand. * http://tinyurl.com/nl87cej* <http://tinyurl.com/nl87cej>* *but ran into trouble: "On sighting Tewaewae's Point, a vessel was observed to be on shore there, and the steamer [GEELONG] bore down to her assistance. She proved to be the barque * "Industry,"* from Melbourne to Otago, with sheep, which had drifted on the rocks in a most dangerous position. With considerable difficulty the crew were induced to assist in the endeavour to get her off, which was at length successful, and the * "Industry"* proceeded on her voyage, not having apparently received any serious damage. But for the opportune arrival of the steamer, the barque would in all probability have become a total wreck, as both the captain and crew appeared to be utterly indifferent as to the result." *http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b* Her consort NORTH STAR, sold at the same time and also intended as a hulk, ran aground at the New River and sustained considerable damage. * http://tinyurl.com/**qck2v2b* <http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b>. Which must raise some question as to whether her owners were actually bothered at all about whether INDUSTRY arrived or not. She arrived at Dunedin on 26th February. "Same day, *Industry*, 487 tons, Stephen, from Melbourne, via the Bluff, with 1700 sheep, 100 boxes candles, 766 deals, 700 tons coal, l package harness, and 1 dog cart. Arrived at 9.20 a.m." *http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b* ** May 7th: "The barque* "Industry"* was run aground at the Bluff. Owner Jones. Seaman - Barnes" *http://tinyurl.com/**qck2v2b*<http://tinyurl.com/qck2v2b> .She was turned into a hulk, ie a floating warehouse. ** That would normally be about the last one would expect to hear of her. But no! Twenty years later (1878) the much decayed vessel pops into the newspapers again. In 1878 Dunedin City Council wanted to turn her into a floating swimming pool! http://tinyurl.com/pebgma6. This report sums up her career since 1858, discusses her current condition and the plans for her, and adds the fact that Industry had been condemned at Melbourne [her crew having presumably being paid off]. However people smelt something fishy going on, not just the reek from the bilges of the decayed vessel ...was the council paying too much and being scammed? http://tinyurl.com/qe5kuva. It became a local issue * http://tinyurl.com/otfjjhd* <http://tinyurl.com/otfjjhd>* *and* http://tinyurl.com/mz9rgqz*. Suspicions were summed up by the Grey River Argus report on 27th December "The City Council of Dunedin bought an old worm eaten hulk called the Industry to turn her into public baths. They paid £600 for her and she was valued at £500. The report of Captain Russell, Lloyd's agent, on the hulk is short and sweet; it is as follows: That the Industry has been a ship of 500 tons burthen, American built; he believes her to be about 50 years of age; he has examined her timber and found it rotten from top to bottom, and he can put no intrinsic value on her". http://tinyurl.com/q8o4pc5 Despite the Chairman of the Baths committee pressing for an enquiry to exonerate him, it wasn't voted for http://tinyurl.com/pt7pqbd . It all sounds very political. A Cllr Fish seems to have been deeply involved but voted against the inquiry. Or it was. Later in 1879 there does seem to have been an inquiry after all but it exonerated everyone. * http://tinyurl.com/mr39hqx . *Some more subtle searching might tease out more of the tale. It is not clear whether Industry was ever converted into public baths, or whether the Council got their money back. Presumably, as the* Otago Daily Times *so graphically put* *it, after that Industry simply "melted away in her unsavoury bed". An interesting tale..... Cheers Piers Piers would you know who bought the INDUSTRY and what became of her? Also what was the role of the agent T.H. Martin, Forrest and Co were they the ship owners? Thank you for the reference number to the crew list, the next time I’m in London, I’ll look it up at the National Archives. Again, much obliged for all your help. Best wishes , Seán Tapley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message