Hi Judith The only certificate I can find is a Second Mates one issued on 28th October 1862. It is accompanied by his record, which is 5 years as an apprentice on "Alfred the Great" on foreign service 24 August 1857 to 24 Aug 1862. At the time of his application he lived at 92 Roscommon Street, Liverpool and had been unemployed for 2 months. He gives his birthdate as October 3rd 1841. There were 2 ships of that name, one a sailing ship registered at Liverpool in 1850, no crew lists seem to be available. There seem to be a lot of newspaper reports of the ship, but only "seem" as the site is so slow this morning I can't access them yet 1862 was during the American Civil War, which was bad for British trade with America. You might like to research this with respect to Liverpool. The cotton workers of Lancashire suffered great poverty during this war. I also have been unable to find out much about Thomas. You would need to get his birth certificate, Dec q 1841 vol 20 page 394. There are a couple of people called Kennerdale at the time in Liverpool, but no link to them. I believe he was convicted of larceny in Lancashire 5th Jan 1874, receiving 4 months in prison. The record does not give his age, and I can't find a reference to the trial in the newspapers of the time. Clare Oxford UK >Thanks to Rosalind the fair for your help! >Another query. I have a masters certificate dated 1862 for Thomas Kennerdale, b. Liverpool 1841. >I'm unableto find any further reference to him anywhere. Would be very grateful for any help/further locations of him. >regardsJudith Kennerdale

Thanks Clare, that gives me a little more to go on. There is another Thomas Kennerdale in the area, Bolton in fact, born 1826 ish, and I'm inclined to give him the larceny charge! I also found something on a tramp by the same name being done for drunk and disorderly, 1877 I think it was! I think I shall have to order that birth certificate, this is a mystery from my point of view! Judith > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:15:00 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MAR] Thomas KENNERDALE > > > Hi Judith > > The only certificate I can find is a Second Mates one issued on 28th > October 1862. It is accompanied by his record, which is 5 years as an apprentice > on "Alfred the Great" on foreign service 24 August 1857 to 24 Aug 1862. At > the time of his application he lived at 92 Roscommon Street, Liverpool and > had been unemployed for 2 months. He gives his birthdate as October 3rd > 1841. There were 2 ships of that name, one a sailing ship registered at > Liverpool in 1850, no crew lists seem to be available. There seem to be a lot of > newspaper reports of the ship, but only "seem" as the site is so slow this > morning I can't access them yet > > 1862 was during the American Civil War, which was bad for British trade > with America. You might like to research this with respect to Liverpool. The > cotton workers of Lancashire suffered great poverty during this war. > > I also have been unable to find out much about Thomas. You would need to > get his birth certificate, Dec q 1841 vol 20 page 394. There are a couple of > people called Kennerdale at the time in Liverpool, but no link to them. > > I believe he was convicted of larceny in Lancashire 5th Jan 1874, > receiving 4 months in prison. The record does not give his age, and I can't find a > reference to the trial in the newspapers of the time. > > Clare > Oxford > UK > > > >Thanks to Rosalind the fair for your help! > >Another query. I have a masters certificate dated 1862 for Thomas > Kennerdale, b. Liverpool 1841. >I'm unableto find any further reference to him > anywhere. Would be very grateful for any help/further locations of him. > >regardsJudith Kennerdale > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message