Peter, Thank you SO much, it is exactly what I was looking for. Much appreciated. Sue Swiggum On 6/19/2013 4:03 AM, Peter Klein wrote: > Hi Sue, > > I'm replying off-list as it does not support attachments, but this > cutting from the Liverpool Mercury of 23 June 1854 may be useful in > giving a full description of the Black Eagle. She was said to have > sailed from Liverpool under captain Gemmell the 25 June, but on 3 July > she was reported as having put into Milford Haven with her mainmast > sprung, sailing again on the 15th. The same newspaper (26 Jan 1855) > reported her as having arrived at Melbourne. She was still under > Gemmell when she sailed for Bombay from Liverpool on the 26 March > 1856, and she had arrived there by the 11 December. She was > reportedly still under Gemmell when she sailed from Madras before 14 > December 1857. > > Just snippets, but I hope they are useful in filling out the picture. > > Best regards, > > Peter Klein > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Susan Swiggum <[email protected]> > *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 15:21 > *Subject:* [MAR] ship BLACK EAGLE ca. 1854 > > Hi Mariners, > > I am trying to learn more about the subject vessel and its crew. > > In the Sydney Morning Herald, 17 July 1854 p.2 it is indicated as being > chartered by the Government Emigration Commissioners. > >> > Emigration to Australia.-The ship Marshall Bennett, with Government > emigrants, left Southampton last week for Geelong. The Navarino will > shortly leave the same port with Government emigrants forAdelaide. The > Government Emigration Commissioners have chartered the Black Eagle for > Melbourne, the Moffatt, for Portland Bay, and the Confiance for Adelaide. > >> > > I have it on TSL, sailing from Liverpool 25th June 1854, arriving at > Melbourne 19th October 1854, 1,853 tons, old measurement. > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/aust1850s.shtml > > Then this Ad in The Argus, Monday 13 November 1854 p.1 > For Callao direct.-The fine AI clipper ship BLACK-EAGLE. 1468 tons > register, J. Gemmell, Commander, will positively sail for the above > port on Tuesday, 14th Inst. Has a few cabins still disengaged.. DE PASS > BROTHERS and CO., agents. > > Here is the 1854 arrival on the Argus Friday 20 Oct. 1854 p.2 ... > SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVALS. October 19. - Black Eagle, ship, 1468 > tons, John Gemmell, from Liverpool 16th July, with 301 Government > emigrants. D. McCosh, Surgeon Superintendent, John Gemmell, agent. > > I have her sailing again to Geelong, in 1857 but I couldn't find a > detailed arrival report so I'm not sure whether John Gemmell was still > the master and her tonnage is now shown as 1,250, new measure. > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/1858-1859.shtml > > I do believe I have found the right John Gemmell, as Mate in 1851 > > Name: John Gemmell > Estimated Age: 28 > Birth Date: 5 May 1823 > Birth Place: Paisley, Renfrewshire > Issue Date: 19 May 1851 > Issue Port: Glasgow > Certificate Number: 40.437 > > ... then Master 21 May 1853, Certificate Number 8.424 > > I then find him In the 1871 census for Kent with a wife and the first > two of his children born in the Seychelles, the others in Kent. The > birthdates of the children fit well with the two Australia trips. > > I cannot find him or his family after that, and absolutely nothing about > the BLACK EAGLE, or any of her crew, so if anyone is able to expand on > my knowledge about this vessel or any of her crew, I would appreciate it. > > Thanks, > > Sue > > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/