Hello there! If I am reading the records on Find My Past correctly, my relative called William Kemp/Camp, born Wells Next the Sea, Norfolk, sailed on a ship called "Coke" between 1842 and 1843. This sounds a strange name for a ship; but the local aristocracy to Wells Next the Sea at Holkham Hall went by the surname of Coke (pronounced Cook) so wondered if the ship was anything to do with him? Does anyone have any further information about this vessel? This is where I think the name Coke comes from: http://www.holkham.co.uk/html/history.html If anyone wants to check that I am reading the document correctly - this is the reference on Find My Past: Last name: CAMP First names: WILLIAM Age:18 Place of birth: WELLS Series: BT112 Date range:1841-1844 Piece number:11 Hope someone can shed further light on this matter. Best regards, Lynn Sharpe

Hello Lynn, Yes, COKE was a Wells coaster of 55 tons. You'll find her in Lloyd's Register of Shipping for 1843, #524 under the "C'-s. You can also check the appropriate years of Lloyd's register for your REFUGE and OREGON. http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html Regards, Adi --- On Wed, 5/8/13, Lynn Sharpe <[email protected]> wrote: If I am reading the records on Find My Past correctly, my relative called William Kemp/Camp, born Wells Next the Sea, Norfolk, sailed on a ship called "Coke" between 1842 and 1843.  This sounds a strange name for a ship; but the local aristocracy to Wells Next the Sea at Holkham Hall went by the surname of Coke (pronounced Cook) so wondered if the ship was anything to do with him? Does anyone have any further information about this vessel? ... Lynn Sharpe

Hi Lynn Being a Norfolk ex-pat & with access in the past to the Norfolk Shipping registers I had a few details of the vessel you mentioned, COKE, but a friend with Wells antecedents let me have more info which I’ll set out below. I don’t know whether or not you have all you need about your Kemp family, but I think he would have another look round if you wished & let me know anything else relevant. All the best from Bristol, Geoff. Per Shipping Registers sunk Warham Hole near Wells but recovered& taken into Blakeney 8/1/1866 MNL. 1867 ". ". owner John Smith of Wells MNL. 1870. Ditto MNL 1876 regd Louth. Owner Benjamin Black of Barton on Humber. Built 1827 1878 sloop, converted to a lighter, register closed. Accounts of Voyages (which include Crew Lists) available for years 1863, 64, 1866-1874 from Newfoundland archives. >From Wells archives census returns: 1841 West End Lower Road, Ebeneezer Kemp age 3 with assorted others. 1845 marriage William Kemp& Mary Ann Parker ( some more details if wanted ) 1851 53 Glebe. William Kemp b. 1822 Wells Mariner Mary Ann wife 1861 37 Brigg Yard Mary Kemp b 1825 Wells, Mariners Wife (other Kemp were ag. labs.) Ebeneezer Kemp, boarder, b. 1838 ag lab 1871 24 W. Glebe. Mary Ann Kemp married, Head of Household so presumably William at sea 1881. Glebe Yard. Ditto. (No occupation so William must be getting a reasonable pay) 1891 153 The Glebe Mary 65 widowed and on parish relief 1895 burial report for Mary No children in any of these returns William not buried within Well so may have died at sea, according to their archives. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 05:54:47 +0100 > Subject: [MAR] More Info On Ships > > > > Hello there! > > > > If I am reading the records on Find My Past correctly, my relative called > William Kemp/Camp, born Wells Next the Sea, Norfolk, sailed on a ship called > "Coke" between 1842 and 1843. This sounds a strange name for a ship; but > the local aristocracy to Wells Next the Sea at Holkham Hall went by the > surname of Coke (pronounced Cook) so wondered if the ship was anything to do > with him? > > > > Does anyone have any further information about this vessel? > > > > This is where I think the name Coke comes from: > > > > http://www.holkham.co.uk/html/history.html > > > > If anyone wants to check that I am reading the document correctly - this is > the reference on Find My Past: > > > > Last name: CAMP > > First names: WILLIAM > > Age:18 > > Place of birth: WELLS > > Series: BT112 > > Date range:1841-1844 > > Piece number:11 > > Hope someone can shed further light on this matter. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Lynn Sharpe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lynn As a Norfolk ex-pat I had already a few details on Coke, but a friend with Wells ancestors provided more, as set out below. I think if you wished he would have another look but this may be all you need ? Please let me know, All the best, Geoff There are a couple of references to the ship COKE in Michael Stammers’s book on shipbuilding in Wells, One mentioning the vessel launched in 1827 ? with 42 tons measurement, receiving New Tonnage measurement of 41.75 gross (probably around 1855). The other mentions a mortgage of £80 to John Smith on the sloop COKE in 1865.The CLIP website gives just one vessel called COKE. official number 12480 (first) registered Wells 1846 MNL 1860 registered Wells (no detail) Per Shipping Registers sunk Warham Hole near Wells but recovered& taken into Blakeney 8/1/1866. MNL. 1867 ". ". owner John Smith of Wells MNL. 1870. Ditto MNL 1876 regd Louth. Owner Benjamin Black of Barton on Humber. Built 1827 1878 sloop, converted to a lighter, register closed. Accounts of Voyages (which include Crew Lists) available for years 1863, 64, 1866-1874 from Newfoundland archives. >From Wells archives census returns: 1841 West End Lower Road, Ebeneezer Kemp age 3 with assorted others. 1845 marriage William Kemp& Mary Ann Parker ( some more details if wanted ) 1851 53 Glebe. William Kemp b. 1822 Wells Mariner Mary Ann wife 1861 37 Brigg Yard Mary Kemp b 1825 Wells, Mariners Wife (other Kemp were ag. labs.) Ebenezer Kemp, boarder, b. 1838 ag lab 1871 24 W. Glebe. Mary Ann Kemp married, Head of Household so presumably William at sea 1881. Glebe Yard. Ditto. (No occupation so William must be getting a reasonable pay) 1891 153 The Glebe Mary 65 widowed and on parish relief 1895 burial report for Mary No children in any of these returns. William not buried within Well so may have died at sea, according to their archives. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 05:54:47 +0100 > Subject: [MAR] More Info On Ships > > > > Hello there! > > > > If I am reading the records on Find My Past correctly, my relative called > William Kemp/Camp, born Wells Next the Sea, Norfolk, sailed on a ship called > "Coke" between 1842 and 1843. This sounds a strange name for a ship; but > the local aristocracy to Wells Next the Sea at Holkham Hall went by the > surname of Coke (pronounced Cook) so wondered if the ship was anything to do > with him? > > > > Does anyone have any further information about this vessel? > > > > This is where I think the name Coke comes from: > > > > http://www.holkham.co.uk/html/history.html > > > > If anyone wants to check that I am reading the document correctly - this is > the reference on Find My Past: > > > > Last name: CAMP > > First names: WILLIAM > > Age:18 > > Place of birth: WELLS > > Series: BT112 > > Date range:1841-1844 > > Piece number:11 > > Hope someone can shed further light on this matter. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Lynn Sharpe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi June Did you get my message of 6 June re the vessel COKE & the Kemps of Wells okay ? Cheers Geoff > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 05:54:47 +0100 > Subject: [MAR] More Info On Ships > > > > Hello there! > > > > If I am reading the records on Find My Past correctly, my relative called > William Kemp/Camp, born Wells Next the Sea, Norfolk, sailed on a ship called > "Coke" between 1842 and 1843. This sounds a strange name for a ship; but > the local aristocracy to Wells Next the Sea at Holkham Hall went by the > surname of Coke (pronounced Cook) so wondered if the ship was anything to do > with him? > > > > Does anyone have any further information about this vessel? > > > > This is where I think the name Coke comes from: > > > > http://www.holkham.co.uk/html/history.html > > > > If anyone wants to check that I am reading the document correctly - this is > the reference on Find My Past: > > > > Last name: CAMP > > First names: WILLIAM > > Age:18 > > Place of birth: WELLS > > Series: BT112 > > Date range:1841-1844 > > Piece number:11 > > Hope someone can shed further light on this matter. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Lynn Sharpe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message