Hello Valerie, The first actual mention in newspapers of a voyage to Singapore is indeed the one reported in March 1841, although Lloyd's Register for 1840/41, published in July 1840, noted her then destined voyage as London/Singapore.  However, happily I have now found a reference to the same Carleton in the Supplement to Lloyd's Register for 1839/40, and here her master's name was given as Tucker, and a printed annotation gives her first voyage as London to Montevideo.  I find that the Carleton sailed from Deal for Montevideo under Captain Tucker on the 28 June 1840, and was entered back into the London Custom House out from Montevideo on the 16 February 1841, only her name was there spelled "Carlton".  This would therefore seem to have been her first commercial voyage, although not under Captain Colepeper.      As to Frederick Colepeper, I've tried all the variations I can think of in the spelling of his name, but can find no previous mention of him in shipping reports in connection with any vessel.  Curiously, his name does appear in Lloyd's Register published in July 1840 as the named master of the Carleton, only Tucker seems, presumably, to have been still in command in February 1841. A bit of a mystery! Sadly, online Lloyd's Lists (via the Hathi Trust) are only available up until 1826.  As Carleton was registered at London, the port registers should have a record of all her owners while she was homed there, see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/merchant-shipping-registration-1786-1994.htm, and that should provide a full record of all changes, together with notes of any shares that might have been taken by her masters.  It was not uncommon for a master to have a stake, say, 4/64ths or so of the shares in the voyage. I hope this provides some more of your answers, and might be more fruitful. Best regards, PK ________________________________ From: Paul and Valerie <[email protected]> To: Peter Klein <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 19 October 2013, 22:59 Subject: Re: [MAR] Transcrips/transactions - 'Carleton' Hello Peter, Many thanks for all the information you have sent me.  I'm not sure if you mean in your email that there were 2 voyages to Singapore 1840 and 1841 or was the ship delivered to London in 1840 and it took a year before the lst sailing.  I do have the crew list and agreement from the PRO of the April 1841 voyage which gives details of where the ship sailed to.  The number on the Crew List is 64/1153. Do you think that Captain Colepeper (Colpeper) would have brought her from St Johns to Gravesend? Thanks also for the information about the 2nd ship of same name.  My ancestor Frederick Colepeper unfortunately died in 1848 aged 42 and I fear this 1841 voyage may have been his last.  The spealling of his name often varies but he signs the crew list and agreement as Fredk Hy Colepeper. kind regards Valerie Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Klein" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Transcrips/transactions - 'Carleton' Hello Valerie, I can answer some part of your question. The Carleton was a new ship, a brig, 206 tons, built at St. Johns, New Brunswick, in 1839. Her first master appears to have been Captain Colpeper - she was owned by J. Field of London, and her first voyage was in 1840 to Singapore. She had arrived from St. Johns at Gravesend on the 16 March 1840. She was cleared out of London customs on 24 April 1841 destined for SIngapore, and was at Gravesend the following day. Colpeper was succeeded, probably during 1842, as master by Captain T. Odgers, and she arrived at Portsmouth from Nassau (New Providence) under his command in early August 1843. She also appears to have changed ownership, to an F. Barnes. Carleton was advertised as sailing again for the same destination during the following September. There was, however, another ship named Carleton, a barque, 404 tons, built at New Brunswick in 1834, and owned by Catto & Son of Aberdeen, The sailed frequently to Quebec, and often appears in contemporary shipping reports under various masters. Regards, Peter Klein ________________________________ From: Paul and Valerie <[email protected]> To: Mariners rootsweb <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 19 October 2013, 14:22 Subject: [MAR] Transcrips/transactions - 'Carleton' Hi List, I am hoping to go to the NA to look at BT 107 Transcripts and Transactions series 1 of the Ships Registries. I am looking for details of a ship 'CARLETON' sailing sometime in 1840. I have a record of the ship sailing from April 1841 to the far east returning Dec 1842 and have Crew List and Agreement, but would like to find out about a voyage that took place just before this and who was the owner and master of that sailing. Abi has mentioned that Fredk Colepeper was on an earlier voyage of the same ship. When I was researching for the crew list and agreement of this ship a few years ago, I only found one crew list and agreement for the 'Carleton' as mentioned above. I telephoned the NA to ask about these crew lists today and was told that there could be crew lists and agreements for the same ship in other files? Can anyone tell me if they have experienced this. kind regards Valerie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message