Hi List, Can someone please let me know if they know the reason for the following: BT 111/5 page 43 of the Transcripts & Transactions Index to Ships Registries 1786-1907 date no Ship Master Weight 1840 201 CARLETON William Tucker 182 6/10th Fredk Hy Colepeper I have looked at this document and wonder why the name of Colepeper would be placed underneath the name of the ship. I know that Colepeper was the master of this ship, but for a sailing late April 1841 to Singapore. Could he have been part of the crew of the earlier sailing with Captain Tucker's and then took over during the voyage due to Captain Tucker's illness or something like that? I will try to find the crew list and agreement of this voyage to see if Fredk Colepeper was in fact on the ship earlier than 1841. Any suggestions of this entry would be much appreciated. Perhaps someone else has found a similar entry in the registers. kind regards Valerie

Hello Valerie, William Henry Tucker was master of CARLETON on the date she was registered. Sometime before her next registration (early in 1843 on page 47), Frederick Henry Colpeper became master. Some vessels, esp. coastal colliers, went through several changes of master in a single year. The clerk writing in the names of the successive masters started directly below the vessel name in the hopes of fitting them all in. That is the only significance to FHC's name being below the vessel name. (I've seen some entries where there are three lines worth! of masters' names and the space is so scribbled in that it is difficult to read the next entry.) I sent you two full-page images. Look through all the enrties and I'm sure you'll find vessels with more than one name. Apologies: I no longer have those pages to hand. Regards, Adi >________________________________ > From: Paul and Valerie <[email protected]> >To: Mariners rootsweb <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:10:53 PM >Subject: [MAR] Index to Ships Registries 1786-1907 > > >Hi List, > >Can someone please let me know if they know the reason for the following: > > >BT 111/5 page 43 of the Transcripts & Transactions Index to Ships Registries 1786-1907 > >date      no          Ship                        Master                            Weight > > >1840    201      CARLETON          William Tucker                182 6/10th >                        Fredk Hy Colepeper > >I have looked at this document and wonder why the name of Colepeper would be placed underneath the name of the ship.  I know that Colepeper was the master of this ship, but for a sailing  late April 1841 to Singapore.  Could he have been part of the crew of the earlier sailing with Captain Tucker's and then took over during the voyage due to Captain Tucker's illness or something like that? > >I will try to find the crew list and agreement of this voyage to see if Fredk Colepeper was in fact on the ship earlier than 1841. > >Any suggestions of this entry would be much appreciated.  Perhaps someone else has found a similar entry in the registers. > >kind regards >Valerie > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Adi, Thanks again for your reply and answer to my query to the list. I didn't send this query to do as I didn't want to be a pest. I have looked at the 4 entries you have sent to me and have looked through the full page and enlarged them, but cannot remember if there are any others but will look again in a minute. I hope to go soon to the National Archives, but domestic things getting in the way. I think I have a free day and something crops up. When I go I shall look into the Transcriptions and Transactions for the Carleton and let you know what I find. Also will try and look at some crew lists. I hope to have enough time, but maybe will go to London again later in the year. At the moment we have a threatened hurricane which is coming from your side of the world, USA is probably the direction, so hope it is less severe by the time it reaches Kent. kind regards Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mme_N_Carmichael" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] Index to Ships Registries 1786-1907 Hello Valerie, William Henry Tucker was master of CARLETON on the date she was registered. Sometime before her next registration (early in 1843 on page 47), Frederick Henry Colpeper became master. Some vessels, esp. coastal colliers, went through several changes of master in a single year. The clerk writing in the names of the successive masters started directly below the vessel name in the hopes of fitting them all in. That is the only significance to FHC's name being below the vessel name. (I've seen some entries where there are three lines worth! of masters' names and the space is so scribbled in that it is difficult to read the next entry.) I sent you two full-page images. Look through all the enrties and I'm sure you'll find vessels with more than one name. Apologies: I no longer have those pages to hand. Regards, Adi >________________________________ > From: Paul and Valerie <[email protected]> >To: Mariners rootsweb <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:10:53 PM >Subject: [MAR] Index to Ships Registries 1786-1907 > > >Hi List, > >Can someone please let me know if they know the reason for the following: > > >BT 111/5 page 43 of the Transcripts & Transactions Index to Ships >Registries 1786-1907 > >date no Ship Master Weight > > >1840 201 CARLETON William Tucker 182 6/10th > Fredk Hy Colepeper > >I have looked at this document and wonder why the name of Colepeper would >be placed underneath the name of the ship. I know that Colepeper was the >master of this ship, but for a sailing late April 1841 to Singapore. Could >he have been part of the crew of the earlier sailing with Captain Tucker's >and then took over during the voyage due to Captain Tucker's illness or >something like that? > >I will try to find the crew list and agreement of this voyage to see if >Fredk Colepeper was in fact on the ship earlier than 1841. > >Any suggestions of this entry would be much appreciated. Perhaps someone >else has found a similar entry in the registers. > >kind regards >Valerie > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message