Hi Clare , thanks so much for this .........yes this is what makes him so splendid , who would have thought that a son of an ag lab could have ended up with a good long obit in the Times and leave £6,818 in his will ???!!!! he must have been very remarkable . Burnham Norton and Overy Staithe are both very shipping and probably like a lot of coastal villages , there was ag lab work and fishing . I have found the space where his house in Downham Market was .......sadly .......as I feel we can lay a little claim to him because of his time here . But have nothing to put a plaque on !!! And yes I thought William and Susanna for his grandparents , but they too were ag labs , and give no clue as to his extraordinary elevation in the world . Jock Willis , the shipbuilder and owner must have spotted him somehow to advance his career. We shall probably never know though Basil Lubbock wrote a book around the Log of the Cutty Sark during Capt Woodget`s time as master , but its very expensive even on Amazon . Celia his mother I agree is odd being so much younger and may well not be his father`s first wife . Thank you again for this confirmation , multiple brains are better than one !!! The Times and other papers said he was 16 when apprenticed to Jock Willis , Old White Hat , as he was called so around 1861 perhaps after the census was taken . Thanks again for your time and interest . -----Original Message----- From: rosalindthefair via Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:43 AM To: mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] WOODGET, Capt Richard Hi I don't think there is any doubt that Captain Woodget's parents were Richard Bircham Woodget (or Woodgate) and Celia Gage (also Cecelia other varieties, don't worry about it). Richard Bircham Woodgate was an agricultural labourer in Burnham Norton, Norfolk, born 10th December 1797 and was buried 5th February 1868 (www.familysearch.org). I thought Celia may not be Capt Woodget's mother as she was 12 years younger than her husband, but they married in 1831 so she must be. Captain Richard is in the 1861 census aged 15 living with his brother Charles, both then ag labs. I can't find (from the Master's and Mates certificates) when he began his apprenticeship. The first ship I can find he served on was the Isabella ON 46824, beginning March 1869 as Mate. How wonderful to rise from such beginnings to be the Captain of the Cutty Sark! There is a nice photo of him on Ancestry but maybe it was also in the obituary? Richard Bircham's parents were William and Susanna, as you say. One person on Ancestry gives their dates and birthplaces in Kent but with no supporting evidence. Best wishes Clare, Oxford UK >From: Graham Read<grahamread43@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [MAR] WOODGET , Capt >Richard.To: elizgh<elizgh@btinternet.com>,mariners@rootsweb.comMessage-ID: ><CABRjMdqoR12=Hk4z9euKcxMfKMUWGmJnKNpeFG0xR+7Eo46Xnw@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type:text/plain; >charset=UTF-8In the IBO class, butJobs run in families, sohave you tried >the Carne Library for other membersof the Woodget tribe whoapplied for >Masters or Mate's tickets ? It is anunusual name, so any 'hits'are likely >to be relatives.GrahamOn Sat, May 9, 2015 at 4:48 PM, elizghvia ><mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote:> Hi, I >amtrying to find more about the> family of the celebrated master of the >clipperCutty Sark from 1885-1895 .> He was born in Burnham Norton in 1845 >and died in1928 . I think I have> his parents an earlier Richard and >possibly hisgrandparents William and> Susanna . The Times has a very >good and detailedobituary and marks as> no other publication his two >marriages and his 3 sons. Does anyo! ne know of> any research done on his antecedents ?>> ---> Thisemail has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.>http://www.avast.com>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com