Hi I've got the Lubbock book, which is about the Cutty Sark, not about Woodget, but having followed up all the index references managed to find this: "Captain Woodget's sea training had been the usual hard one of sailing ship days. He was the younger son of Richard Woodget, a farmer of Burnham Norton in Norfolk, and was born on 21st November 1845. When 10 years of age he was sent to school at Burnham Market, where his resolute, high-spirited character soon showed itself..... He was then sent to a private school at Deepdale for a while before a second term of Burnham Market.... when he was 16 years of age his indentures were signed with Bullard, King & Co. On the 30th September 1861 he joined the billiboy JOHNS, of 80 tons, which traded between Seaham Sluice near Blythe and London, her cargo being usually bottles. His next ship was the schooner PEACE in the same trade. In these ships he distinguished himself by his indomitable attitude towards the incredibly hard hearted and iron fisted skippers and mates of those days...... the brig BRITISH ENSIGN which he joined in the summer of 1863, and finished his time on. Space will not admit of a fuller description of his early life, but a summary of his service will be found on page 276" Lubbock was a bit of a romanticist but was writing while Woodget was still alive and he may have consulted him as there is plenty of detail in the book which appear to come either from Woodget's writing or something Woodget said. Cheers Piers On 15 May 2015 at 11:04, elizgh via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Clare , thanks so much for this > .........yes this is what makes him so splendid , who would have thought > that a son of an ag lab could have ended up with a good long obit in the > Times and leave £6,818 in his will ???!!!! he must have been very > remarkable . Burnham Norton and Overy Staithe are both very shipping and > probably like a lot of coastal villages , there was ag lab work and fishing > . I have found the space where his house in Downham Market was > .......sadly .......as I feel we can lay a little claim to him because of > his time here . But have nothing to put a plaque on !!! And yes I thought > William and Susanna for his grandparents , but they too were ag labs , and > give no clue as to his extraordinary elevation in the world . Jock Willis , > the shipbuilder and owner must have spotted him somehow to advance his > career. We shall probably never know though Basil Lubbock wrote a book > around the Log of the Cutty Sark during Capt Woodget`s time as master , but > its very expensive even on Amazon . Celia his mother I agree is odd being > so much younger and may well not be his father`s first wife . Thank you > again for this confirmation , multiple brains are better than one !!! The > Times and other papers said he was 16 when apprenticed to Jock Willis , Old > White Hat , as he was called so around 1861 perhaps after the census was > taken . Thanks again for your time and interest . > > -----Original Message----- > From: rosalindthefair via > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:43 AM > To: mariners@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MAR] WOODGET, Capt Richard > > > > > > Hi > > I don't think there is any doubt that Captain Woodget's parents were > Richard > Bircham Woodget (or Woodgate) and Celia Gage (also Cecelia other varieties, > don't worry about it). Richard Bircham Woodgate was an agricultural > labourer > in Burnham Norton, Norfolk, born 10th December 1797 and was buried 5th > February 1868 (www.familysearch.org). I thought Celia may not be Capt > Woodget's mother as she was 12 years younger than her husband, but they > married in 1831 so she must be. > Captain Richard is in the 1861 census aged 15 living with his brother > Charles, both then ag labs. I can't find (from the Master's and Mates > certificates) when he began his apprenticeship. The first ship I can find > he > served on was the Isabella ON 46824, beginning March 1869 as Mate. How > wonderful to rise from such beginnings to be the Captain of the Cutty Sark! > There is a nice photo of him on Ancestry but maybe it was also in the > obituary? > Richard Bircham's parents were William and Susanna, as you say. One person > on Ancestry gives their dates and birthplaces in Kent but with no > supporting > evidence. > Best wishes > Clare, Oxford UK > > >From: Graham Read<grahamread43@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [MAR] WOODGET , > Capt > >Richard.To: elizgh<elizgh@btinternet.com>,mariners@rootsweb.comMessage-ID > : > ><CABRjMdqoR12=Hk4z9euKcxMfKMUWGmJnKNpeFG0xR+7Eo46Xnw@mail.gmail.com > >Content-Type:text/plain; > >charset=UTF-8In the IBO class, butJobs run in families, sohave you tried > >the Carne Library for other membersof the Woodget tribe whoapplied for > >Masters or Mate's tickets ? It is anunusual name, so any 'hits'are likely > >to be relatives.GrahamOn Sat, May 9, 2015 at 4:48 PM, elizghvia > ><mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote:> Hi, I > >amtrying to find more about the> family of the celebrated master of the > >clipperCutty Sark from 1885-1895 .> He was born in Burnham Norton in 1845 > >and died in1928 . I think I have> his parents an earlier Richard and > >possibly hisgrandparents William and> Susanna . The Times has a very > >good and detailedobituary and marks as> no other publication his two > >marriages and his 3 sons. Does anyo! > ne know of> any research done on his antecedents ?>> ---> Thisemail has > been > checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.>http://www.avast.com>> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >