Hi, Why don't you try to contact www.pilote-seine.fr, GEORGES LEVERDIER was one of their pilot ships, they would have reliable information. Best regards, Gildas Envoyé de mon iPad > Le 23 avr. 2015 à 11:25, andycadams@aol.com via <mariners@rootsweb.com> a écrit : > > Hi Joe > > The only reason I knew that you had responded was by accessing the > Archives, nothing in my Inbox. I had changed to a .org.uk address > because of troubles with aol. Doesnt seem to have worked. > > Can't find much about the withdrawal date for GL, however I seem to > recall that two more modern vessels (one may have been Albert Faroult) > were in operation at Le Havre in the mid 60's. Given the age span of a > pilot cutter as between 30 and 40 years it is not unreasonable to > assume that withdrawal occurred in the early sixties, I have no > recollection of her as I did not go to Le Havre until 1967. A referral > to Lloyds Registers would give you an end date in that she would no > longer be included or if she was, there would be an annotation stating > 'Class withdrawn' probably with the date of the required special > survey. I regret that my own copies do not go beyond 1955. > > I have in my posesion copies of pages from the Boarding Book which > clearly shows that she was still operating as a boarding vessel, with > pilots embarked, the entry 'anchored in harbor' is a strong indication > that the Boarding Officers were now American. The date for this is Feb > 1945. The inside page of the Boarding Book reads 'His Majesty's Ship > George Leverdier'. I strongly suspect that she had Free French crew. > The fact that she was still a Boarding/Examination vessel at this date > squares with entry in the Navy List for 1945. > > Signal Letters/Call Sign FORI > > I will keep drilling down on this one although I feel there is not much > further to go. > > Next to the question of the Pioneer and Guide. These two vessels were > built for the Dungeness station with Pioneer being the first purpose > built steam cutter. I have attached a data sheet which will give a full > technical spec. Remainder below. > > Pioneer 1 Built at a cost of £6361. First purpose built steam cruising > cutter. Built for the Dungeness station. Transferred to Harwich in > 1906, relicensed No 7. Transferred back to Dover in 1912 and reverted > to No. 1. Renamed Preceder in 1924 to free the name for the new > Pioneer. Sold to Pilotage du Gironde in 1925 and renamed Chevalier. > Broken up in 1935. > > Off No 98971 Signal Letters/Call Sign MHGF > > Guide 2 Built for the Dungeness station, contract price £6300 but > final price closer to £6415. Replaced by Patrol in 1914 and sold to J E > Bernier of Levis Lauzon, Quebec. Bernier a noted Arctic explorer used > her for supporting his gold prospecting and fur trapping activities > around Baffin Island. Sold to > Cie Navigation de la Baie de Bras d' Or in 1923. Sold to North Shore > Trading Co of Quebec 1926. Sunk Oct. 1926 > > Off No 98982 Signal Letters/Call Sign MHLF > > Photos are a little hard to come by. The photos that I have are for > Pioneer only including one from the Amos and Amos collection (NMM > copyright). No copyright on the others. > > I will review the Archives regularly to make sure that you have had > receipt. > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Merci Gildas, I will have a look at that web site. Kindest regards, Joe McMillan, South Australia. -----Original Message----- From: Gildas via Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 2:23 AM To: andycadams@aol.com ; mariners@rootsweb.com Cc: Mariners-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Georges Leverdier Hi, Why don't you try to contact www.pilote-seine.fr, GEORGES LEVERDIER was one of their pilot ships, they would have reliable information. Best regards, Gildas Envoyé de mon iPad > Le 23 avr. 2015 à 11:25, andycadams@aol.com via <mariners@rootsweb.com> a > écrit : > > Hi Joe > > The only reason I knew that you had responded was by accessing the > Archives, nothing in my Inbox. I had changed to a .org.uk address > because of troubles with aol. Doesnt seem to have worked. > > Can't find much about the withdrawal date for GL, however I seem to > recall that two more modern vessels (one may have been Albert Faroult) > were in operation at Le Havre in the mid 60's. Given the age span of a > pilot cutter as between 30 and 40 years it is not unreasonable to > assume that withdrawal occurred in the early sixties, I have no > recollection of her as I did not go to Le Havre until 1967. A referral > to Lloyds Registers would give you an end date in that she would no > longer be included or if she was, there would be an annotation stating > 'Class withdrawn' probably with the date of the required special > survey. I regret that my own copies do not go beyond 1955. > > I have in my posesion copies of pages from the Boarding Book which > clearly shows that she was still operating as a boarding vessel, with > pilots embarked, the entry 'anchored in harbor' is a strong indication > that the Boarding Officers were now American. The date for this is Feb > 1945. The inside page of the Boarding Book reads 'His Majesty's Ship > George Leverdier'. I strongly suspect that she had Free French crew. > The fact that she was still a Boarding/Examination vessel at this date > squares with entry in the Navy List for 1945. > > Signal Letters/Call Sign FORI > > I will keep drilling down on this one although I feel there is not much > further to go. > > Next to the question of the Pioneer and Guide. These two vessels were > built for the Dungeness station with Pioneer being the first purpose > built steam cutter. I have attached a data sheet which will give a full > technical spec. Remainder below. > > Pioneer 1 Built at a cost of £6361. First purpose built steam > cruising > cutter. Built for the Dungeness station. Transferred to Harwich in > 1906, relicensed No 7. Transferred back to Dover in 1912 and reverted > to No. 1. Renamed Preceder in 1924 to free the name for the new > Pioneer. Sold to Pilotage du Gironde in 1925 and renamed Chevalier. > Broken up in 1935. > > Off No 98971 Signal Letters/Call Sign MHGF > > Guide 2 Built for the Dungeness station, contract price £6300 but > final price closer to £6415. Replaced by Patrol in 1914 and sold to J E > Bernier of Levis Lauzon, Quebec. Bernier a noted Arctic explorer used > her for supporting his gold prospecting and fur trapping activities > around Baffin Island. Sold to > Cie Navigation de la Baie de Bras d' Or in 1923. Sold to North Shore > Trading Co of Quebec 1926. Sunk Oct. 1926 > > Off No 98982 Signal Letters/Call Sign MHLF > > Photos are a little hard to come by. The photos that I have are for > Pioneer only including one from the Amos and Amos collection (NMM > copyright). No copyright on the others. > > I will review the Archives regularly to make sure that you have had > receipt. > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com