One more thing, Toni, Given that the father, the surgeon, would have had some education in Latin and further given that you already have "Septimus" and Octavius" among the forenames of the sons, I would add "Tertius" "Quartus" "Quintus" and "Sextus" to your search parameters. "The ordinal numbers in Latin are: primus, secundus, tertius, quartus, quintus, sextus, septimus (etc,). Romans often gave an individualised first name only to their eldest son: the rest were often just numbered and known by these ordinal numbers. " Regards,Adi   From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK.  They had 10 sons, seven of whom were  definitely mariners.