Thank you to Paul, Piers, David & Pat for the information and insights into the voyage of the JOHN AND LUCY in 185. This has all proved very interesting and relevant and I will continue to research. The "Log of Logs", which I have not come across before, will be especially useful. Many thanks Lynden -----Original Message----- From: Paul Benyon [mailto:pbenyon@pbenyon.plus.com] Sent: 29 July 2015 17:06 To: Hughes, Lynden M; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Ship JOHN AND LUCY : 1854 Hi Lynden You are still in the period when the Trade Winds decided the route to be taken by a sailing vessel, so was probably to the east coast of South America, occasionally via Madeira, or the Western Isles as they were sometimes known, then onwards for water and provisions, the port, e.g. Pernambuco, Bahia, or Rio, perhaps depending on the time of the year and whether fever was a problem, or not, such news often being picked up from other vessels spoken with en route. Your vessel doesn't appear to have been on a government subsidised voyage, so presumably, whether passengers would have been embarked en route would depend on the instructions given to the Master by the ship's owners. Whilst a course was steered for many years via the Cape of Good Hope, by this date most vessels, after leaving the port on the East Coast of S America, or giving it a miss altogether, would have sailed down into the upper reaches of the Roaring Forties, on what was known as the Great circle route, picking up the westerly trades, as they headed for the Antipodean ports, thus, not only reducing the distance travelled, but picking up stronger and more predictable winds, usually reducing the earlier passage times, via the Cape of Good Hope, by as much as a month or more : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_Forties Regards Paul On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:05:05 +0100, Hughes@lists2.rootsweb.com, Lynden M via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Can anyone tell me the route that the 'John And Lucy' would have taken from Liverpool to Australia in 1854? She left Liverpool 9 June 1854 and arrived Port Phillip on 13 September 1854. I understand she carried 494 passengers and also a cargo of books and lime. > >I really want to know if she would have stopped en route and picked up more passengers? > >Thanks for any help. >Lynden > >West Sussex, UK > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html