Hello,I am looking for information on the Barque Isabella, from Preston. It's on Captain Edward Byrne's testimonial as being the ship he was an apprentice on & his seamans ticket said he 1st went to sea in 1839 as an apprentice. His testimonials & statement of service record him as being on the ship for 5 years & 5 months leaving as chief mate.I'm looking for crew records or apprentice records or anything that will help me research my ancestor. Thanks

I think I've found her in in Lloyd's Register for 1843 see http://tinyurl.com/nd2a22d Barque Isabella, Master: Dalton, 327 tons, built New Brunswick 1837, registered port of Preston, trading between London and Quebec, owner Humber & ? [presumably others]. Built from Black birch, spruce, pine, and hatmatack. Large repairs 1839, damage repaired and some repairs 1842, appears up to 1848 but has dropped out (or changed name) by 1849. Dalton appears to have been master up to 1848 edition. This doesn't mean she necessarily still existed at that point - it sometimes took a while (years) for news to reach the register. Also appears to have traded to New Brunswick 1843 see http://www.genealogy.restigouche.net/ships.htm You may find references in Lloyds List and other newspapers Googling brings up this reference for Preston as a port: "The Last Tide, A history of the Port of Preston 1806 - 1981 by Jack Darkes" - might be interesting. On 23 July 2015 at 09:17, Jackie via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello,I am looking for information on the Barque Isabella, from Preston. > It's on Captain Edward Byrne's testimonial as being the ship he was an > apprentice on & his seamans ticket said he 1st went to sea in 1839 as an > apprentice. His testimonials & statement of service record him as being on > the ship for 5 years & 5 months leaving as chief mate.I'm looking for crew > records or apprentice records or anything that will help me research my > ancestor. > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Piers beat me to the first part - but here's what I found in any case, including some events that would have been during Byrne's time on board. I suspect that the disappearance from Lloyd's Register is to do with the expiry of the classification following survey in 1842 - she was apparnelty lost in 1854. "The Last Tide" has no specific mention nof the ISABELLA, but has passing mention of the Humber family, who were active in the development of the port of Preston. +++++++++ >From Lloyd's Register ISABELLA - barque 327t old measure; 305t new measure built 1837 at New Brunswick, Canada (of black birch, spruce, pine and hackmatack (a larch species); copper sheathing 1837 Humber & Co, reg Lancaster (master T Rymer) 1841 reg Preston (same owners) 1842 (master Dalton) 1846 (master Berrill) 1848 deleted from LR [1842 classification survey gave "4 years"] annotated: large repairs 1839, 1846, damage repairs 1842 [see below] [Limerick newspaper - c5 December] 1837 The barque Isabella of Preston, Capt Rymer, from Pernambuco for Liveprool, laden with cotton, entered Waterford on Monday night, duiring a dreadful gale. She went aground near Drumroe Bank, a large shoal near Duncannon, where she lay beating in on the sand, the sea flying over her in a truly awful manner. Mr Benjamin Conn, the efficient head of the Pilot establishment at Passage, boarded the vessel, and why they were engaged in clearing away the wreck, the vessel beat over the Bank, and settled into deep water. Nearly fifteen thousand dollars were extricated from the vessel by Mr Conn. Belfast Newslatter, 29 March 1842 Cairnryan, 20 March: Barque ISABELLA (Rymer), Preston for New York, put in here with loss of foretopgallant mast, jib-boom, sails and rigging. Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh), 7 April 1842 As the barque Isabella, Rymer, was coming into Loch Ryan on the 25th and had shut in Corsewall light, about half a mile from the point of Milleur (west point of the entrance to the loch) she struck adn hung on a sunken rock, and lost her false keel; she was not supposed to have received any other injury; but Mr Rymer, having so many lives in charge (thirty of forty passengers), resolved to proceed for Greenock or Liverpool to have her bottom examined, the wind being from the south-west. The rock on which the barque struck is not laid down in any chart I have seen; it is not in any chart in the shole mof the wind-bound fleet in the loch, not is it laid down in the late Admiralty survey by Commander C G Robinson, 1841. The barque was drawing fifteen feet water. This rock, discovered for the first time in the mouth of the loch, has surprised every body. It must, in fact, have been thrown up by some subterranean commotion, for it was never heard of before, and I can't think a rock of the kind could have escaped discovery in a Loch so well frequented; besides Captain Robinson's survey in 1841 was a most minute one, and if the rock had been there at the time, I think he would have discovered it; it is in the very track for the vessels taking the Loch after coming round the Corswall Point. Preston Guardian, 16 March 1844 Letters were received yesterday from Alexandria in Egypt by Messrs Humber, corn dealers of this town, conveying the intelligence that Captain Dalton of the barque Isabella, there lying in port, had been found dead in his cabin, on the night of the 22nd ult. The British consul had appointed an inquiry to be instituted, it being suspected that he had come to his death by taking laudanum. The same mail brought a letter form the deceased, announcing that he expected to sail from Alexandria on the 25th ult. The unfortunate young man, who was only 25 years of age, was the son of Rev Thomas Dalton, of Angle, near Pembroke. He had been in Messrs Humber's empl oy five years. Liverpool Mercury, 21 July 1854 ISABELLA of Preston, derelict, passed in 30°N 21°W on 9 Jul 1854, floating bottom up (with apparently recent zinc sheathing), apparently run into amidships. +++++++++ David On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Jackie via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello,I am looking for information on the Barque Isabella, from Preston. > It's on Captain Edward Byrne's testimonial as being the ship he was an > apprentice on & his seamans ticket said he 1st went to sea in 1839 as an > apprentice. His testimonials & statement of service record him as being on > the ship for 5 years & 5 months leaving as chief mate.I'm looking for crew > records or apprentice records or anything that will help me research my > ancestor. > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Jackie, Though originally registered to Preston, your ISABELLA appears to have been transferred to Tyne registry in 1854. [You might pick up more details of her build through 'transcriptions and transactions' in the Newcastle?/Shields Customs House Register for that year.] Her dimensions are given as 93.2 X 24.5 X 15.8 feet. New owner as of 20 April, 1854 was George Guildford, shipowner of North Shields. New master as of same date was George Cunningham. She went missing after leaving the Tyne for Quebec with master and crew of thirteen. [That suggests that she was then in the timber trade, or coal out and timber home.] Source: Entry #2217 in Richard Keys' "Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships". **************************************************************************** From:  MARINE INTELLIGENCE . The Newcastle Courant etc (Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England), Friday, June 2, 1854; Issue 9365. "NORTH SHIELDS ----- The ISABELLA, Cunningham, from hence, for Quebec, which had to put into the Orkneys, leaky, discharged 50 tons of coals and repaired damage, and was to leave again on Saturday for North America," ********************************************************************************* [The fact that she was still described as "ISABELLA of Preston" when her wreckage was sighted 9 July 1854 by SPARKLING WAVE from New Orleans, position lat. 30 or 50 (different news accounts), long. 21, was probably due to the recentness of the transfer.] Regards,Adi From: Jackie via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 4:17 AM Subject: [MAR] Barque Isabella Hello,I am looking for information on the Barque Isabella, from Preston. It's on Captain Edward Byrne's  testimonial as being the ship he was an apprentice on & his seamans ticket said he 1st  went to sea in 1839 as an apprentice. His testimonials & statement of service record him as being on the ship for 5 years & 5 months leaving as chief mate.I'm looking for crew records or apprentice records or anything that will help me research my ancestor. Thanks