Not knowing ANYTHING about signaling, could his color blindness have affected how he saw signals from ship to ship, thus making him unfit to serve in his previous capacity?Jane On Monday, August 10, 2015 2:50 PM, Dawn Pillans via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi, The RFA could be Royal Field Artillery, a regiment in the Army. But given the context it is more likely to be that he joined the Royal Fleet Auxiliary. It was established in 1905 to provide coaling ships to supply the Royal Navy. Regards Dawn Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Aug 2015, at 15:36, elizgh via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >                                This is interesting , why get your Masters > ticket in July 1914 and then join the army ? and then becomes an officer in > the RN briefly , and then back to the RFA "on ships" ???? >                                Can you scan that portion of this service > record in so that we could have a crack at answering the question why he was > so banned from the RN ..... and then " modified " . > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angharad Holmes via > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:04 PM > To: mariners@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MAR] Deciphering a Naval record > > > I have my Grandfather's World War 1 Naval service history and there is one > thing in particular that I would like to know more about, and wondering if > someone on here can throw any light on it for me! > > He was a merchant seaman before the war, got his Masters Ticket July 1914, > then he served a year in the Royal Field Artillery. > > In April 1916 he seems to have been transferred to the Navy as a Sub > Lieutenant (temporary), went to HMS Excellent (April - May 1916)which I > believe was a shore establishment in Portsmouth and was then posted to HMS > Princess. (? Princess Royal). > > In June 1916 his record states that "he resigned" and > “ he is notto serve on any vessel in RN service for the rest of the war”. > This statementseems to have been modified in June  1917 but I cannot make > out the scribbled note on his record that says why. > > In June 1916 he transferred to the RFA and served the rest of the war out on > various ships, one of them being the S.S.Gothland which was torpedoed off > Malta in 1917. He was then on the S.S.City of Shanghai until 1923. > > He was killed during Dec 1940 after a year dodging u boats in the Atlantic. > > My father said that his dad was in the "wavy navy". > > I would like to know what the resignation in 1916 is all about, I thought > you couldn't just resign during war time! and why was he not allowed to > serve in the RN for the duration of the war. > > By the way - he was colour blind! > > In anticipation > > Angharad > > > > Angharad Holmes > angharadholmes@aol.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for reply Jane, it's something Ive considered, but ? don't know :) Angharad Holmes angharadholmes@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Jane Ward via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: Dawn Pillans <dawn.pillans@btinternet.com>; mariners <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 20:14 Subject: Re: [MAR] Deciphering a Naval record Not knowing ANYTHING about signaling, could his color blindness have affected how he saw signals from ship to ship, thus making him unfit to serve in his previous capacity?Jane On Monday, August 10, 2015 2:50 PM, Dawn Pillans via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi, The RFA could be Royal Field Artillery, a regiment in the Army. But given the context it is more likely to be that he joined the Royal Fleet Auxiliary. It was established in 1905 to provide coaling ships to supply the Royal Navy. Regards Dawn Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Aug 2015, at 15:36, elizgh via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > This is interesting , why get your Masters > ticket in July 1914 and then join the army ? and then becomes an officer in > the RN briefly , and then back to the RFA "on ships" ???? > Can you scan that portion of this service > record in so that we could have a crack at answering the question why he was > so banned from the RN ..... and then " modified " . > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angharad Holmes via > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:04 PM > To: mariners@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MAR] Deciphering a Naval record > > > I have my Grandfather's World War 1 Naval service history and there is one > thing in particular that I would like to know more about, and wondering if > someone on here can throw any light on it for me! > > He was a merchant seaman before the war, got his Masters Ticket July 1914, > then he served a year in the Royal Field Artillery. > > In April 1916 he seems to have been transferred to the Navy as a Sub > Lieutenant (temporary), went to HMS Excellent (April - May 1916)which I > believe was a shore establishment in Portsmouth and was then posted to HMS > Princess. (? Princess Royal). > > In June 1916 his record states that "he resigned" and > “ he is notto serve on any vessel in RN service for the rest of the war”. > This statementseems to have been modified in June 1917 but I cannot make > out the scribbled note on his record that says why. > > In June 1916 he transferred to the RFA and served the rest of the war out on > various ships, one of them being the S.S.Gothland which was torpedoed off > Malta in 1917. He was then on the S.S.City of Shanghai until 1923. > > He was killed during Dec 1940 after a year dodging u boats in the Atlantic. > > My father said that his dad was in the "wavy navy". > > I would like to know what the resignation in 1916 is all about, I thought > you couldn't just resign during war time! and why was he not allowed to > serve in the RN for the duration of the war. > > By the way - he was colour blind! > > In anticipation > > Angharad > > > > Angharad Holmes > angharadholmes@aol.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message