P.S. Oops. No, apparently didn't die at sea. Apologies. Regards,Adi   From: Mme_N_Carmichael <mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca> To: "mktgmaven2001@aol.com" <mktgmaven2001@aol.com>; "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] MARINERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 170 - Nutman/Ringdove Hello Kathleen, Erm ... I think that you did not look in chronological order. I also looked him up to make sure that I was giving instructions in the correct sequence. Yes, he *is* in the second pdf of BT 124/7 at the top of a page. The information in the columns up to 1856 are in code, after that he is shown as being on VOLUNTEER. He also died at sea. Have another go, lass. Regards,Adi   From: "mktgmaven2001@aol.com" <mktgmaven2001@aol.com> To: mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca; mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] MARINERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 170 - Nutman/Ringdove Hi Adi, Okay, I think I understand how it works now, thank you. Unfortunately, the certificate number entries jumped from 46.198 to 46.201 so William Reed's is not listed in the service record for some reason. I double checked his number 46.200 on Ancestry on the actual M&M certificate and it's correct.  Kathleen