Mary, I see your original posting came in while I was away earlier in the month and although I spotted it later it is in you passing on Peter's comments that I add my own about the local geography. It sounds as though you may be fairly local and may already know this, but it may be of general interest to the List. In 1851 Middlesbrough was still in its infancy as a new town, developing from 1830. It was not incorporated as a borough (with only one "o" in the actual town name) until 1853. Until about then the town was growing "across the border" as we call it, north of the railway. It seems expansion south of the railway started in the early 1850s, including Dundas Street, now the site of the Dundas Arcade (shops), only a couple of hundred yards from the railway station, and well within a mile of Middlesbrough Dock which had opened in 1842. There would be many riverside berths within the same radius. You may find something in archived newspapers and if you do live nearby the Teesside Archives in Marton Road (the old post office near the railway station end) may also hold some records. All I can do, however, is wish you luck with your search - you will probably need it! Ron Mapplebeck (Middlesbrough - UK) **** On 12/08/2011 19:24, D M STORRY wrote: > To Peter Kirsopp. > > Thank you for your reply to my query, I will try Middlesbrough Newspapers. > > Mary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Kirsopp<peter.kirsopp@gmail.com> > To: dms<dms@dmstorry.force9.co.uk> > Sent: 04 August 2011 15:37 > Subject: Re: [MAR] Mark Ridley BAKER > >> It sounds as though his career was in the short distance trades, mostly >> colliers in this area. Middlesborough is an easy train ride from several >> possible loading ports. Possibly it was where his wife was at home rather >> than him. He probaly got his start on a Whitby owned ship but sailing from >> any port where coal cargoes offered, hence the Sunderland call..Employment >> was often obtained initially through local or family connections. If he >> made it to Master perhaps local newspapers might add his name to that of a >> ship in the shipping news. Some crew lists can be searched from the Clip >> project on www.findmypast.com >> Peter >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "dms"<dms@dmstorry.force9.co.uk> >> To:<mariners-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:43 PM >> Subject: [MAR] Mark Ridley BAKER >> >> >>> Hello Listers >>> >>> My problem is how can I find out the name if the ship or ships that my >>> great grandfather Mark Ridley Baker sailed on. On his Seaman's Ticket > it >>> states that he was born at Robin Hood's Bay , 11th July 1828 when >>> unemployed resides at Whitby. He first went to sea as an Apprentice 20 >>> December 1843. Ticket issued at Sunderland 6 day of May 1845. The > years >>> 1949 and 1850 are blank. In 1951 he was a Seaman in June and a Mate > in >>> December. I have been unable to finding anything more about him until >>> the following Censuses. >>> >>> On the 1851 Census he is lodging at a house in Middlesbrough, North >>> Yorkshire. He married in 1852 and on the 1861 Census he is with his > wife >>> and 3 sons at 28 Dundas Street, Middlesbrough >>> >>> Does this mean that the ship/ships he was on is/are in Harbour at >>> Middlesbrough? >>> >>> Looking forward to knowing any comments about this enquiry. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >