I would like to hear more about this (see the messages below)-and in both directions, what about Americans/Canadian sailors who finished their job on a ship on England or European shores? I've found my great grandfather coming back as a passenger on a ship, yet listed as a sailor. his seamans papers, the ones the nation archives would have here in the US, were lost or destroyed. Cornelia Message: 3 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:38:26 -0400 From: "KATHLEEN LOPEZ" Subject: [MAR] mariners crossing the Pond To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is probably a dumb question, but when a man joined a vessel bound for Canada or the USA did they require a passport? I am thinking about the early 1900's. What kind of paper work was needed for the man? Kathleen in toronto ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Betty Hebert Subject: Re: [MAR] mariners crossing the Pond To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com [5] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well my grandfather crossed the pond in 1901 and jumped ship in Galveston.? He had his seaman's papers but not the one for the trip he was on.? I assume the captain did not give it to the sailor until completion?of the voyage.? Persons the country legally or via a passenger ship signed "An Intent to Immigrate" paper upon?arrival. In New Orleans a?fee was charged to leave the ship so many actually jumped in the water at the mouth of the Mississippi to?avoid payment. Regards, Betty Hebert? ________________________________ From: KATHLEEN LOPEZ To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com [8] Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 8:38:26 PM Subject: [MAR] mariners crossing the Pond This is probably a dumb question, but when a man joined a vessel bound for? Canada or the USA did they require a passport?? I am thinking about the early 1900's. What kind of paper work was needed for the man? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Kathleen in toronto ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com [9] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the MARINERS list administrator, send an email to MARINERS-admin@rootsweb.com [10]. To post a message to the MARINERS mailing list, send an email to MARINERS@rootsweb.com [11]. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com [12] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of MARINERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 133 **************************************** Links: ------ [1] mailto:kathleen.lopez@rogers.com [2] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com [3] mailto:F43072D176744C9280FB108E9A596093@DJLDR9B [4] mailto:ebhebert@yahoo.com [5] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com [6] mailto:492265.53047.qm@web130209.mail.mud.yahoo.com [7] mailto:kathleen.lopez@rogers.com [8] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com [9] mailto:MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com [10] mailto:MARINERS-admin@rootsweb.com [11] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com [12] mailto:MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com
Cornelia There were periods during the 19th Century, such as we are now experiencing in the West, when demand for goods and services were at a low ebb and there was quite a bit of unemployment in most counties, and it was difficult for seamen to find work, in contrast to periods when economies were booming or when there were wars amongst the sea powers, when ship owners had to pay extra to recruit crews and when countries like G.B. often had difficulty manning all the war ships they wanted to send to sea. In addition to wars and the economic ups and downs, Gold Rushes and the like could empty a coast of seamen, such as the West Coast of the US, when ships were arriving at SF and whole crews were heading for the gold fields with many of these ships now forming a part of the foreshore ? Paul On Wed, 04 May 2011 13:00:54 -0700, fenenga@connpoint.net wrote: > > > I would like to hear more about this (see the messages below)-and in >both directions, what about Americans/Canadian sailors who finished >their job on a ship on England or European shores? I've found my >great grandfather coming back as a passenger on a ship, yet listed as >a sailor. his seamans papers, the ones the nation archives would have >here in the US, were lost or destroyed. > > Cornelia > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:38:26 -0400 > From: "KATHLEEN LOPEZ" > Subject: [MAR] mariners crossing the Pond > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > This is probably a dumb question, but when a man joined a vessel >bound for Canada or the USA did they require a passport? I am >thinking about the early 1900's. What kind of paper work was needed >for the man? > Kathleen in toronto > ------------------------------ > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:12:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Betty Hebert > Subject: Re: [MAR] mariners crossing the Pond > To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com [5] > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Well my grandfather crossed the pond in 1901 and jumped ship in >Galveston.? He > had his seaman's papers but not the one for the trip he was on.? I >assume the > captain did not give it to the sailor until completion?of the >voyage.? Persons > the country legally or via a passenger ship signed "An Intent to >Immigrate" > paper upon?arrival. > In New Orleans a?fee was charged to leave the ship so many actually >jumped in > the water at the mouth of the Mississippi to?avoid payment. > Regards, > Betty Hebert? > ________________________________ > From: KATHLEEN LOPEZ > To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com [8] > Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 8:38:26 PM > Subject: [MAR] mariners crossing the Pond > This is probably a dumb question, but when a man joined a vessel >bound for? > Canada or the USA did they require a passport?? I am thinking about >the early > 1900's. What kind of paper work was needed for the man? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Kathleen in toronto > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com [9] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ > To contact the MARINERS list administrator, send an email to > MARINERS-admin@rootsweb.com [10]. > To post a message to the MARINERS mailing list, send an email to >MARINERS@rootsweb.com [11]. > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com [12] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >the body of the > email with no additional text. > End of MARINERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 133 > **************************************** > > >Links: >------ >[1] mailto:kathleen.lopez@rogers.com >[2] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com >[3] mailto:F43072D176744C9280FB108E9A596093@DJLDR9B >[4] mailto:ebhebert@yahoo.com >[5] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com >[6] mailto:492265.53047.qm@web130209.mail.mud.yahoo.com >[7] mailto:kathleen.lopez@rogers.com >[8] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com >[9] mailto:MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com >[10] mailto:MARINERS-admin@rootsweb.com >[11] mailto:MARINERS@rootsweb.com >[12] mailto:MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html