Hello Rhonda and Ron Many thanks for your input ... for a moment I thought I had lost my document with what SW Smith said in his letter dated Aug 13th 1895. He says he came on the "Arab" some two months ago ... so I would say that was about May or early June ..... He states something which I cannot quite read and maybe it's of note here ... "I notice in the gazette that you are advertising for one SW Smith of Egypt & "....... " maybe Luclia .... Anyway .. .perhaps you know more about which "Arab" I am looking for now. Kind regards Paxie ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhonda Staskow To: Ron Mapplebeck Cc: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] VESSELS NAMED "ARAB" was Re: Barque Arab Hi - Indeed there are many barques named "Arab." While it appears that the 1882 voyages were linked to the 1880 vessel built in Apenrade, my original research began with the Arab built by Johann Heinrich David Reimer, my G-G-G grandfather, also in Apenrade. I have traced many of its voyages from 1859 to 1873 with much of the time spent in the Far East trade with Captains Bruhn and Holst and possibly Bang. The information has the ship listed out of register around Aug 1873 but I am not sure what happened to it. The last record I have is the arrival in Singapore, Captain Bang on June 3 1873. The 2nd Arab, Captain Moos, I track from 1881 when it arrived 11 Nov in HK from Chefoo. Then I have the trip to Manila. There is a story from 1883 in Google Books dated around 20 October - as follows >From the Life-Boat Journal At about 3 A.M. on the 20th of October large flares were seen in the direction of the Middle Cross Sand, and guns and rockets were fired by the Cockle and St. Nicholas lightships. The Caister No. 1. Life-boat Covent Garden was launched, and found the barque Arab, in ballast from London to Newcastle with a crew of fifteen men, lying to in the centre of the Middle Cross Sand. The Life-boat let go her anchor, veered down, and with great difficulty boarded her. The master requested the Life-boatmen to try to get the vessel off, and this having been successfully accomplished, a steam-tug was engaged to tow her into Yarmouth harbour. The wind was blowing fresh from the SW by W and there was a nasty sea on the sand. Listed as Barque Arab of Apenrade. There were 15 on board. Rhonda On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ron Mapplebeck <ron.mapplebeck1@virgin.net>wrote: > I've retitled this message as it does seem quite likely we are here > dealing with two different vessels with the same name. > > From Miramar I have the basic history of the steamer ARAB mentioned by > Adi. > Launched 23.1.1879 by J.& G.Thomson, Clydebank, and completed 3.5.1879 > (3 May). > 3170 gross tons, length 106.7 metres (350.0 feet according to 1897 > Lloyd's Register) > Arrived Hamburg August 1900 to be broken up. > > The barque ARAB was 541 gross tons, completed at Apenrade in August 1880 > for J. Mathiesen. What was her career/fate? > > That sent me off looking for Apenrade! Now Abenra (Aabenraa) in Denmark, > but then Apenrade in Prussia! > > Ron Mapplebeck (UK) > **** > On 07/07/2011 14:40, Mme_N_Carmichael wrote: > > Hello Paxie, > > > > Are you sure it is this German/Prussian barque ARAB? I suspect that > > it might have been the Union Steamship Company (Limited) > > intermediate steamer ARAB, Captain Tyson, which left Southampton > > Sat., 26 January, 1895 with passengers, mails and cargo for Lisbon, > > Teneriffe and Cape of Good Hope. Can you give any further > > information?, more specific dates? was SWS passenger or crew? > > > > Regards, Adi > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/6/11, Paxie Kelsey<paxie@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > > > > Hi there Is there anyone who could tell me a more complete history > > of this barque ... I have a Stephen William SMITH who sailed on the > > Arab from England to the Cape in 1895. Many thanks Paxie ----- > > Original Message ----- From: Ted Finch To: Rhonda Staskow ; > > mariners@rootsweb.com > > > > Hello Rhonda, > > > > According to American Lloyds Register, the Master's name in 1882 was > > Moos. > > > > regards Ted > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > > send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message