Mariners, If I may be permitted a supplementary question please? Further to Colin's answer to my original question. According to Lloyds 1846/7 this vessel was a Snow of 452 Tons, owners Hutchinsons of Sunderland. If this is Henry CLASPER, the Master Mariner referred to, then he was of Sunderland. This begs the question: if Newton and Joseph CLASPER owned the vessel NEWTON, where did Newton CLASPER of Newcastle fit into the story and was Henry CLASPER from another family, possibly of Sunderland? Thank you for any more assists. Rod Title: Manuel de l'Assureur ou Vade-Mecum du Commerce Maritime. Par M. Auguste Morel, No. 5. - Dix-huitième Année, 1845, Paris, 563 1845 REGISTRE INTEGRITAS. [Numéro d'ordre:] [N] 421 [Nom:] [NEWTON.] [Classification:] 5 [Capitaine:] Glasper , J. [Capitaine subséquent: blank] [Espèce:] Glt. [Tonnage:] 62 [L'année de construction:] 1838 [Port d'armement:] Newcastle. [Navigation soit habituelle soit de compétence:] Manche. and Title: Manuel de l'Assureur ou Vade-Mecum du Commerce Maritime. Par M. Auguste Morel, No. 5. - Dix-huitième Année, 1845, Paris, 817 1845-1846 REGISTRE INTEGRITAS. [Numéro d'ordre:] [W] 542 [Nom:] [WILLIAM]-&-JANE. [Classification:] 5 [Capitaine:] Clasper, H. [Espèce:] Bk. [Tonnage:] 228 [L'année de construction:] 1837 [Port d'armement:] Sunderland. [Navigation habituelle:] Baltique. RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org

Rod, I managed a cursory delve (we are not allowed to carry out our own research at work)in an index we have of marriages in the Tyne & Wear area 1778 to 1838. There were a few Henrys but no Joseph or Newton. They may still be the same family as there was a lot of movement between Newcastle and Sunderland and the current rivalry between them is a relatively recent event. Based on past examples, from the dates and events found so far, an 'inspired guess' could be that Newton was the father of Joseph and Henry and that he died 1849/50 when Joseph took over as sole owner. The records exist- it's just finding the right one! Cheers Colin Colin Boyd Documentation Assistant Collections and Exhibitions Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums Tel: 0191 2772177 Fax: 0191 2302614 Email: colin.boyd@twmuseums.org.uk R ead Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums' new blog, and get involved with our social media, games and digital projects here - http://www.twmuseums.org.uk/engage/ Leader of the North East Regional Museums Hub Our mission is to help people determine their place in the world and define their identities, so enhancing their self-respect and respect for others. Find out more at: www.twmuseums.org.uk 2009 North East Public Sector Organisation of the year. v.1TWAM From: mariners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mariners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rod Clayburn Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 3:49 PM To: mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: [MAR] GLASPER/CLASPER Masters Mariners, If I may be permitted a supplementary question please? Further to Colin's answer to my original question. According to Lloyds 1846/7 this vessel was a Snow of 452 Tons, owners Hutchinsons of Sunderland. If this is Henry CLASPER, the Master Mariner referred to, then he was of Sunderland. This begs the question: if Newton and Joseph CLASPER owned the vessel NEWTON, where did Newton CLASPER of Newcastle fit into the story and was Henry CLASPER from another family, possibly of Sunderland? Thank you for any more assists. Rod Title: Manuel de l'Assureur ou Vade-Mecum du Commerce Maritime. Par M. Auguste Morel, No. 5. - Dix-huitième Année, 1845, Paris, 563 1845 REGISTRE INTEGRITAS. [Numéro d'ordre:] [N] 421 [Nom:] [NEWTON.] [Classification:] 5 [Capitaine:] Glasper , J. [Capitaine subséquent: blank] [Espèce:] Glt. [Tonnage:] 62 [L'année de construction:] 1838 [Port d'armement:] Newcastle. [Navigation soit habituelle soit de compétence:] Manche. and Title: Manuel de l'Assureur ou Vade-Mecum du Commerce Maritime. Par M. Auguste Morel, No. 5. - Dix-huitième Année, 1845, Paris, 817 1845-1846 REGISTRE INTEGRITAS. [Numéro d'ordre:] [W] 542 [Nom:] [WILLIAM]-&-JANE. [Classification:] 5 [Capitaine:] Clasper, H. [Espèce:] Bk. [Tonnage:] 228 [L'année de construction:] 1837 [Port d'armement:] Sunderland. [Navigation habituelle:] Baltique. RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your IT department. All incoming and outgoing email are monitored for compliance with Tyne and Wear Museums email, Internet and security policy. This email has been swept by MIMEsweeper.