Thanks again Colin I had a note from Pete Owens of the Clip website he has access to the Appropriation books of the Register General of shipping, A foot note under the entry for Malacca says " Sold to Foreigners 30/5/62 as per cert [or might be "subsequently"] repurchased by British subjects and reregistered at Liverpool under the name of Florida 176/1862 [1864?]. Lost per return 21/6/67 " The cert[ificate] and return refer to correspondence between the Superintendents of Shipping and the Board of Trade. The date of the return may not be the date of the loss, or even the date when the register was closed. It all helps to build up a history. In the 1860s all ships carried sails so Lloyds would include her rig , what abbreviation or symbol do Lloyds use to show auxiliary steam engine ? I am still missing the vital conformation of her loss at Ballycotton, which will come from Lloyds List or her Register at Liverpool. Mick www.irishshipwrecks.com