Hi Klifton I have had another look at the Wreck Reports this time with my glasses on, I found the " Nymph " Cutter / Yacht, Master "R. H . Williamson" . The Info Nymph Age about 10 years old Not registered Cutter / Yacht, Wooden Crew : 3 Tons : about 10 Master : R.H.Williamson Owner : W.H.P Ward, Southsea Voyage : Newhaven - Portsmouth in ballast Comment: Not Heard of since sailing on 25th march 1905. With a crew of three how likely is it to have R.H.Williamson and R.H.Wilkinson ?. I will post the page from the Wreck Report to our Photo Gallery later , may be now we can turn up something from a News Paper . Mick Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: thesnows To: Mick ; Mariners Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] "Nymph" Yacht, lost off Selsey,Sussex on or around 26th March 1905.
Hello Mick, Thank you very much for checking again. So the tone of the writing was right. I didn't realise so many ships where "lost" at sea. I have emailed Portsmouth Archives, and had already placed a request on the West Sussex rootsweb site, but it will probably have to be a visit in person though to Chichester local studies. I assume a newspaper article will be the only way to find who else was on board? also if the Yacht was not registered then is it harder to trace it, would you know. Would it also mean that it is likely there was no trace of the Yacht at all, and this would mean not even on an admiralty chart as a wreck if the place it sank was quite deep. Thanks again, Klifton ----- Original Message ----- From: Mick To: Mariners ; thesnows Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] "Nymph" Yacht, lost off Selsey,Sussex on or around 26th March 1905. Hi Klifton I have had another look at the Wreck Reports this time with my glasses on, I found the " Nymph " Cutter / Yacht, Master "R. H . Williamson" . The Info Nymph Age about 10 years old Not registered Cutter / Yacht, Wooden Crew : 3 Tons : about 10 Master : R.H.Williamson Owner : W.H.P Ward, Southsea Voyage : Newhaven - Portsmouth in ballast Comment: Not Heard of since sailing on 25th march 1905. With a crew of three how likely is it to have R.H.Williamson and R.H.Wilkinson ?. I will post the page from the Wreck Report to our Photo Gallery later , may be now we can turn up something from a News Paper . Mick Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: thesnows To: Mick ; Mariners Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] "Nymph" Yacht, lost off Selsey,Sussex on or around 26th March 1905.
<I assume a newspaper article will be the only way to find who else was on board?> I was recently in contact with MAR about my wife's ancestor, Samuel Mitchell, assumed drowned on the Lowestoft smack, Shells of the Ocean. On advice I looked at the National Archives site and found the Board of Trade document, BT 159 / 4 Return of Deaths at Sea, reported to the Register General of Shipping and Seamen under the provisions of the Merchant Shipping Act 1854. Our chap was May 1882. The record gave all five members of the crew, recorded consecutively under the name of the boat. The major disadvantage is that you can search by name of deceased or name of the boat, but both can be <it's good but it's not right>. And you have to pay to see the record, with no refunds if it isn't the boat that you wanted. I understand that Find My past has a deaths at sea index, but doesn't give the rest of the crew as readily. Graham (husband of Irene) ----- Original Message ----- From: "thesnows" <thesnows@eircom.net> To: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com>; "Mariners" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] "Nymph" Yacht, lost off Selsey,Sussex on or around 26th March 1905. > Hello Mick, > > Thank you very much for checking again. > > So the tone of the writing was right. I didn't realise so many ships where "lost" at sea. > > I have emailed Portsmouth Archives, and had already placed a request on the West Sussex rootsweb site, but it will probably have to be a visit in person though to Chichester local studies. > > I assume a newspaper article will be the only way to find who else was on board? also if the Yacht was not registered then is it harder to trace it, would you know. > > Would it also mean that it is likely there was no trace of the Yacht at all, and this would mean not even on an admiralty chart as a wreck if the place it sank was quite deep. > > Thanks again, > > Klifton >
Hi Klifton This was a small pleasure craft with no registration number so its unlikely to turn up in any shipping records at the National Archives, but check every thing. Yes a newspaper article is possibly the place this info will be found, also check out web sites of Libraries in the area some have online access to local news papers this might save a visit or might help plan your visit better. May be some of the local Yacht Clubs keep a history of lost vessels if she sailed from Newhaven that might have been her home, check with Yacht Club websites. As to the numbers of vessels lost it often passed 2000 a year for Britain and Ireland alone. The possibility of a wreck remaining is nil, a small wooden vessel even if it did sink would break up in a short time, and as Paul explained in a previous post Vessels lost at sea often came ashore in bits over a wide area. Also I would not rule out the possibility that your man was the Master and the Wreck Report misnamed him, R.H.Williamson and R.H.Wilkinson looks suspect to me. Happy Hunting Mick Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: thesnows To: Mick ; Mariners Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] "Nymph" Yacht, lost off Selsey,Sussex on or around 26th March 1905.