Interesting but I'm quite sure this isn't the account I'm looking for. The 'Ranger' I'm looking for, sank off the coast of Aberdeen, Scotland. I appreciate your input. Susan. On 30-Jun-11, at 6:32 PM, Peter Klein wrote: > Hi Susan, > > The following report was printed in The Examiner (of London) for the > 8th September 1833: "The Late Gales. The Ranger schooner, > Christie, master, was brought in this morning (Dover), having been > discovered on the 2nd inst. by the smack Endeavour, about 4 or 5 > miles from Calais, driving westwards towards the French coast. No > person whatever was on board, and she had lost both anchors, and the > pumps were choked and useless. It is not known what has become of > the crew." > > Regards, > > PK > > From: Susan Enns <bellenns@rogers.com> > To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 30 June, 2011 20:34:03 > Subject: [MAR] The sinking of the 'Ranger' > > I'm looking for as much information as I can find regarding the > schooner 'Ranger'. I have a letter describing the sinking of the ship > dated Sept.1st, 1833 but no identification as to the author of the > letter. It came to me in a bundle of old letters written by relatives > from Sunderland, UK. > > I believe this schooner is the vessel described at http://www.aberdeenships.com/single.asp?index=100687 > . At this site, it suggests the owner was John CHRISTIE of > Sunderland who I believe to be a relative. > Would there be a Scottish newspaper account? > > This site also indicates that a commemorative 'coin' Rummer Glass for > the schooner was made with the markings of J & B Christie. I'm > suspecting these initials represent John and Barbara CHRISTIE. Was > this common practice to manufacture commemorative glasses and would > there only be one of these made? > > I welcome any information. > Many thanks, > > Susan Enns > Canada. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
Hello Susan, May we know the exact wording of the information that leads you to believe that your RANGER sank off the coast of Aberdeen? Is it just this bit from the Aberdeen ship site? "Lost off Aberdeen 1st September 1833" Well........ it's not unknown for museums to be wrong. I've been to the Aberdeen ships site and had a look and then to the newspapers and I come to the same conclusion as Peter because: 1) From the entry on the Aberdeen site, (extract below) new sole owner John Christie was a master mariner of Sunderland. It was logical that he would both take command and transfer the registry. 16 February 1830 - Alexander Matthew, John Lumsden, James Brebner, Alexander Dalgarno, Robert Catto, Alexander Duthie the younger, William Maitland, William Catto and John Catto all of Aberdeen in the County of Aberdeen, merchants, William Reid of the same place, shipbuilder, and William Stewart, Advocate, only accepting Executor of the last will and testament of James Mess, late of the same place, merchant, deceased transferred by Bill of Sale date 15 February 1830 sixty four sixty fourth shares to John Christie of Sunderland near the sea in the County of Durham, Master Mariner. Shipbuilder NICOL REID Dimensions length 59 5/6' x breadth 18 3/6' x depth 10 9/12' Registered Tonnage: 84 ton 2) From: MARINE INTELLIGENCE . The Newcastle Courant etc (Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England), Saturday, August 31, 1833; Issue 8275 " ARRIVALS AT FOREIGN PORTS. from Newcastle. .....Ranger, Christie; ... Caen." 3) From: Multiple News Items . The Standard (London, England), Monday, September 02, 1833; Issue 1968. "The Ranger, of Sunderland, has been abandoned near the Goodwin Sands." 4) From: SHIP NEWS . The Morning Post (London, England), Tuesday, September 03, 1833; Issue 19575 "DEAL, SEPT. 1.- ...FIVE P.M.- Another crew is just landed belonging to the Ranger, from Caen to Sunderland; the vessels were totally lost, and I fear, from the severity of the gale, many more have suffered." 5) From: Multiple News Items . The Standard (London, England), Wednesday, September 04, 1833; Issue 1970 "RAMSGATE, SEPT. 2.- ... The Ranger of Sunderland, reported as riding in a dangerous situation near the Goodwin Sands, is gone to pieces. Crew saved. Several anchors and chains have been picked up and landed here today." 6) From: THE LATE GALES . The Examiner (London, England), Sunday, September 8, 1833; Issue 1336. This is again the article that Peter gave you. The information in it tallies with what is in the attached snippetts #2-5. Regards, Adi --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Susan Enns <bellenns@rogers.com> wrote: Interesting but I'm quite sure this isn't the account I'm looking for. The 'Ranger' I'm looking for, sank off the coast of Aberdeen, Scotland. I appreciate your input. Susan. On 30-Jun-11, at 6:32 PM, Peter Klein wrote: > Hi Susan, > > The following report was printed in The Examiner (of London) for the > 8th September 1833: "The Late Gales. The Ranger schooner, > Christie, master, was brought in this morning (Dover), having been > discovered on the 2nd inst. by the smack Endeavour, about 4 or 5 > miles from Calais, driving westwards towards the French coast. No > person whatever was on board, and she had lost both anchors, and the > pumps were choked and useless. It is not known what has become of > the crew." > > Regards, > > PK > > From: Susan Enns <bellenns@rogers.com> > To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 30 June, 2011 20:34:03 > Subject: [MAR] The sinking of the 'Ranger' > > I'm looking for as much information as I can find regarding the > schooner 'Ranger'. I have a letter describing the sinking of the ship > dated Sept.1st, 1833 but no identification as to the author of the > letter. It came to me in a bundle of old letters written by relatives > from Sunderland, UK. > > I believe this schooner is the vessel described at http://www.aberdeenships.com/single.asp?index=100687 > . At this site, it suggests the owner was John CHRISTIE of > Sunderland who I believe to be a relative. > Would there be a Scottish newspaper account?