Greetings I hope that some on this list may be able to give me some clues as to how I can find out if Henry Blandford 1 & 2 are the same person, here is what I have found out. Henry Blandford 1 Henry was a seaman on the Brothers an immigrant ship from England to Australia which arrived in Sydney on the 11th March 1841. On arrival in Sydney members of the crew including Henry were indicted for mutiny and insubordination on board the Brothers, on the 6th January 1842 off the Cape of Good Hope. The indictment contained two counts, the first charging revolt the second with insubordination on the high seas. Henry was also found loitering around the female quarters. On 6th June 1842 Mary McKay, who coincidentally was on the Brothers, gave birth to a son known as Henry Charles Blandford, my g g grandfather. Nothing is known of Henry snr after the incident on the Brothers. Mary McKay married some years later and described herself as a spinster. Henry Blandford 2 In the Hampshire Advertiser & Salisbury Guardian Saturday 5th March 1842 there is an article that describes the death of all the crew, including Captain Bazin, of the Eleanor in Gambia. According to the report while at the Nunes two crew members became sick and died. Without sufficient provisions to take them home they put into the Gambia on the 6th January 1842 where they all caught a fever and died or as the article says "we are sorry to say has taken them off." One of the crew was a Henry Blandford. According to the state records of NSW, in May 1841 there was a Brig called Eleanor in Sydney and in August 1841 there was a Barque called Eleanor in Sydney. I read some where that there are records in England that list all mariners with a unique number that details the ships they sailed on. Is any one able to give me contact details of who would hold these records? And can anyone tell me what is meant by the term "Nunes"? My apologies for this long email but I and other family researchers have been wondering what happened to our ggg grandfather Henry Blandford 1 Howard Australia

Hello Howard, For what it's worth, according to Lloyd's Register for 1841/42 Captain Bazin appears to have been master of the Eleanore (with an "e" on the end), a brig built in Guernsey in 1840, 167 tons, and owned by Blondell of Guernsey. She appears again in 1842/43, this time under a captain Makernot, and later capt. Wakeham (1843/44) etc. In theory she was only sailing locally, so what she might have been doing in the Gambia I do not know. From other vessels listed in 1841/42, the two Eleanors that reached Australia were probably: (1) barque Eleanor, 300 tons, Captain Holderness, owners Godwin & Co., London, sailing from London to Sydney. She was loading at London for Sydney on the 25 February 1841, leaving via Deal on the 2 April. This Eleanor was destroyed by fire at anchor when at "Aleppee" (presumably Alleppey or Alappuzha, Kerala), said to be an act of sabotage, before the 29 October 1842, while on her way to Calcutta. (2) brig Eleanor, 253 tons, Capt. Mossman, owned by Cockburn, London, and sailing from London to N.S.W. She was said elsewhere to have arrived in Sydney from London before 7 September 1840. She left Mauritius for Hobart on the 13 March 1841, and then left Sydney on 12 June back to Mauritius. She arrived in Melbourne from Mauritius on 12 February 1842. These are the only two listed as sailing for Australia in that year. I hope this might help in teasing these various vessels apart. Regards, PK ________________________________ From: Howard Benson <hdb@hotkey.net.au> To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 27 June, 2011 12:18:11 Subject: [MAR] Henry BLANDFORD 1 & Henry BLANDFORD 2 - Mariner Greetings I hope that some on this list may be able to give me some clues as to how I can find out if Henry Blandford 1 & 2 are the same person, here is what I have found out. Henry Blandford 1 Henry was a seaman on the Brothers an immigrant ship from England to Australia which arrived in Sydney on the 11th March 1841. On arrival in Sydney members of the crew including Henry were indicted for mutiny and insubordination on board the Brothers, on the 6th January 1842 off the Cape of Good Hope. The indictment contained two counts, the first charging revolt the second with insubordination on the high seas. Henry was also found loitering around the female quarters. On 6th June 1842 Mary McKay, who coincidentally was on the Brothers, gave birth to a son known as Henry Charles Blandford, my g g grandfather. Nothing is known of Henry snr after the incident on the Brothers. Mary McKay married some years later and described herself as a spinster. Henry Blandford 2 In the Hampshire Advertiser & Salisbury Guardian Saturday 5th March 1842 there is an article that describes the death of all the crew, including Captain Bazin, of the Eleanor in Gambia. According to the report while at the Nunes two crew members became sick and died. Without sufficient provisions to take them home they put into the Gambia on the 6th January 1842 where they all caught a fever and died or as the article says "we are sorry to say has taken them off." One of the crew was a Henry Blandford. According to the state records of NSW, in May 1841 there was a Brig called Eleanor in Sydney and in August 1841 there was a Barque called Eleanor in Sydney. I read some where that there are records in England that list all mariners with a unique number that details the ships they sailed on. Is any one able to give me contact details of who would hold these records? And can anyone tell me what is meant by the term "Nunes"? My apologies for this long email but I and other family researchers have been wondering what happened to our ggg grandfather Henry Blandford 1 Howard Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My understanding is that the central index register of merchant seamen did not start until 1913. Those original records are in the city archives in Southampton and on microfiche in the National Archives in Kew. Alan On 27/06/2011 12:18, Howard Benson hdb-at-hotkey.net.au |Mariners L| wrote: > I read some where that there are records in England that list all mariners with a unique number that details the ships they sailed on. Is any one able to give me contact details of who would hold these records? >