Hello Carol, The following appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette for the 11 February 1871: "The Storm.- Fearful Loss of Life. A telegram from Bridlington received this morning says: The storm of yesterday raged with terrific fury off this coast, and the loss of life and property is frightful. Up to this morning the boatmen can reckon on the loss of no fewer than forty lives; besides this, eighteen vessels have foundered or run ashore in Bridlington Bay between Flamborough Head and Auburn House. Those saved speak highly of the gallantry displayed by the lifeboat crews and by the coastguard to save life. ... ". In fact, seven lifeboat crew were lost in the Count Batthyany lifeboat, and the disaster was widely covered at length in the Yorkshire papers of the time. The Lavinia unfortunately is not mentioned in the lists of wrecked vessels, but those that were included are: Spinner (of Blythe); Agility (North Shields); Friends Increase (London); Echo (Maldon); Squirrel (Whitby); Worthy (Lynn); Peri (Lynn); Margaret (Ipswich); Rebecca and Elizabeth (Lowestoft); Bebside (Blythe); Urina (Worcester); Vivid (Scarborough); William Maitland (Whitby); Caroline (Yarmouth); Arrow (Sunderland); Delta (Whitby); and the Produce (Folkestone). "Four other vessels foundered, with all hands, names unknown." A long account of the storm and shipwrecks is to be found in the Sheffield and Rotherham Independent for the 18th February. Regards, Peter Klein ________________________________ From: CarolK Kampenhout <ckampenhout@hotmail.com> To: Mariners Rootsweb <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 4 June, 2011 6:01:45 Subject: [MAR] Vessel "Lavinia" wreck in the Bridlington Bay Feb 1871 Well, I FINALLY found the record where my gg gpa's (Anthony Hindson) ship wrecked off the coast of England. The burial record (14 Feb 1871) of the Bridlington Parish, York, says" drowned in Bridlington Bay in the wreck of the ship "Lavinia" of Seaham. I have a couple of questions: Where can I look to find information about the ship, and/or the wreck itself. He was listed in the record as (captain) although I never found him in the Lloyds list of Captains. Thanks! Carol Kampenhout ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, If its information about the wreck you want, try contacting the Hydrographic Office in Taunton. They hold detailed charts of the areas where many ships have been lost. Areas have been surveyed by Royal Navy ships, such as the HMS Hecate, to determine if any wrecks are/were hazards to navigation. Best wishes Paul -- http://www.paullee.com On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:52 PM, D KLEIN <klein84@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello Carol, > > The following appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette for the 11 February 1871: > > "The Storm.- Fearful Loss of Life. A telegram from Bridlington received > this > morning says: The storm of yesterday raged with terrific fury off this > coast, > and the loss of life and property is frightful. Up to this morning the > boatmen > can reckon on the loss of no fewer than forty lives; besides this, eighteen > vessels have foundered or run ashore in Bridlington Bay between Flamborough > Head > and Auburn House. Those saved speak highly of the gallantry displayed by > the > lifeboat crews and by the coastguard to save life. ... ". > > In fact, seven lifeboat crew were lost in the Count Batthyany lifeboat, and > the > disaster was widely covered at length in the Yorkshire papers of the time. > The > Lavinia unfortunately is not mentioned in the lists of wrecked vessels, but > those that were included are: Spinner (of Blythe); Agility (North > Shields); > Friends Increase (London); Echo (Maldon); Squirrel (Whitby); Worthy (Lynn); > Peri > (Lynn); Margaret (Ipswich); Rebecca and Elizabeth (Lowestoft); Bebside > (Blythe); > Urina (Worcester); Vivid (Scarborough); William Maitland (Whitby); Caroline > (Yarmouth); Arrow (Sunderland); Delta (Whitby); and the Produce > (Folkestone). > "Four other vessels foundered, with all hands, names unknown." A long > account > of the storm and shipwrecks is to be found in the Sheffield and Rotherham > Independent for the 18th February. > > Regards, > > Peter Klein > > ________________________________ > From: CarolK Kampenhout <ckampenhout@hotmail.com> > To: Mariners Rootsweb <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, 4 June, 2011 6:01:45 > Subject: [MAR] Vessel "Lavinia" wreck in the Bridlington Bay Feb 1871 > > > > Well, I FINALLY found the record where my gg gpa's (Anthony Hindson) > ship wrecked off the coast of England. The burial record (14 Feb 1871) > of the Bridlington Parish, York, says" drowned in Bridlington Bay in the > wreck of the ship "Lavinia" of Seaham. > > I have a couple of questions: > > Where can I look to find information about the ship, and/or the wreck > itself. > He was listed in the record as (captain) although I never found him in the > Lloyds list of Captains. > > > Thanks! > > > Carol Kampenhout > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol With reference to Peter's quote that "Four other vessels foundered, with all hands, names unknown," I think it perhaps worth pointing out that it wasn't unknown when wooden vessels came ashore during the night in a storm that about the only thing that might be found the following morning would be little more than match wood and perhaps the remains of the cargo. I would think that this would be more than likely on the coast from Bridlington southwards, which suffers from serious erosion and wasn't and still isn't therefore too well populated. About the only things identifiable that might survive could be the ship's boats or parts thereof which might have names of the ship or master etc., or be painted with distinctive colours, and maybe parts of the cargo if stowed in kegs or the like, which often carried markings which from which they might be identified. When possibly identifiable items of cargo or boats were found at sea or on the coast these were often taken to port and handed over to the powers that be, say the local Lloyds representative etc., who would advertise the finds, particularly in cases like this, where it was known that unknown vessels had also been lost. Paul On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:52:12 +0100 (BST), D KLEIN <klein84@btinternet.com> wrote: >Hello Carol, > >The following appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette for the 11 February 1871: > >"The Storm.- Fearful Loss of Life. A telegram from Bridlington received this >morning says: The storm of yesterday raged with terrific fury off this coast, >and the loss of life and property is frightful. Up to this morning the boatmen >can reckon on the loss of no fewer than forty lives; besides this, eighteen >vessels have foundered or run ashore in Bridlington Bay between Flamborough Head >and Auburn House. Those saved speak highly of the gallantry displayed by the >lifeboat crews and by the coastguard to save life. ... ". > >In fact, seven lifeboat crew were lost in the Count Batthyany lifeboat, and the >disaster was widely covered at length in the Yorkshire papers of the time. The >Lavinia unfortunately is not mentioned in the lists of wrecked vessels, but >those that were included are: Spinner (of Blythe); Agility (North Shields); >Friends Increase (London); Echo (Maldon); Squirrel (Whitby); Worthy (Lynn); Peri >(Lynn); Margaret (Ipswich); Rebecca and Elizabeth (Lowestoft); Bebside (Blythe); >Urina (Worcester); Vivid (Scarborough); William Maitland (Whitby); Caroline >(Yarmouth); Arrow (Sunderland); Delta (Whitby); and the Produce (Folkestone). > "Four other vessels foundered, with all hands, names unknown." A long account >of the storm and shipwrecks is to be found in the Sheffield and Rotherham >Independent for the 18th February. > >Regards, > >Peter Klein > >________________________________ >From: CarolK Kampenhout <ckampenhout@hotmail.com> >To: Mariners Rootsweb <mariners@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, 4 June, 2011 6:01:45 >Subject: [MAR] Vessel "Lavinia" wreck in the Bridlington Bay Feb 1871 > > > >Well, I FINALLY found the record where my gg gpa's (Anthony Hindson) >ship wrecked off the coast of England. The burial record (14 Feb 1871) >of the Bridlington Parish, York, says" drowned in Bridlington Bay in the >wreck of the ship "Lavinia" of Seaham. > >I have a couple of questions: > >Where can I look to find information about the ship, and/or the wreck itself. >He was listed in the record as (captain) although I never found him in the >Lloyds list of Captains. > > >Thanks! > > >Carol Kampenhout > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Subject: Re: [MAR] Vessel "Lavinia" wreck in the Bridlington Bay Feb 1871 Hello Carol, Further to Paul's interesting posting, I have found two references to a Captain Hindson - on the 2nd July 1870, among colliers arriving at Gravesend, the "Lavinia, Hindson" was listed in the Northern Echo of the 5th July. On the 12th August 1870 the "Minerva, Hindson, from Seaham" was noted as arriving at Texel in the Netherlands (Northern Echo, 18th August). The Minerva was a brig that was subsequently wrecked, near Happisborough on the Norfolk coast, on Christmas Day in 1870. The name of her then captain, who was rescued by a lifeboat, is not stated. The Lavinia appears to have been a coal-carrying brig (two masts), the work-horses of the coastal trade, that was never register with Lloyds, appearing neither in Lloyd's Registers, nor in the Mercantile Navy List of 1867. The newspaper account of the storm reported that the coast "between Flamborough Head and Auburn House" was the scene of some 18 wrecks, a stretch of coastline little more than 8 miles in length. Auburn House may no longer exist, but it was situated some 3 miles south of Bridlington, about half way along the road to Barmston. As this was clearly a major news story at the time, and comfortably within the era of photography, it may well be worth your while enquiring locally about any surviving photographs of the wreckage that came ashore although, as Paul says, little of the Lavinia may have been left that was recognizable. Regards, Peter K ________________________________ Subject: Re: [MAR] Vessel "Lavinia" wreck in the Bridlington Bay Feb 1871 Carol With reference to Peter's quote that "Four other vessels foundered, with all hands, names unknown," I think it perhaps worth pointing out that it wasn't unknown when wooden vessels came ashore during the night in a storm that about the only thing that might be found the following morning would be little more than match wood and perhaps the remains of the cargo. I would think that this would be more than likely on the coast from Bridlington southwards, which suffers from serious erosion and wasn't and still isn't therefore too well populated. About the only things identifiable that might survive could be the ship's boats or parts thereof which might have names of the ship or master etc., or be painted with distinctive colours, and maybe parts of the cargo if stowed in kegs or the like, which often carried markings which from which they might be identified. When possibly identifiable items of cargo or boats were found at sea or on the coast these were often taken to port and handed over to the powers that be, say the local Lloyds representative etc., who would advertise the finds, particularly in cases like this, where it was known that unknown vessels had also been lost. Paul On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:52:12 +0100 (BST), D KLEIN <klein84@btinternet.com> wrote: >Hello Carol, > >The following appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette for the 11 February 1871: > >"The Storm.- Fearful Loss of Life. A telegram from Bridlington received this >morning says: The storm of yesterday raged with terrific fury off this coast, >and the loss of life and property is frightful. Up to this morning the boatmen >can reckon on the loss of no fewer than forty lives; besides this, eighteen >vessels have foundered or run ashore in Bridlington Bay between Flamborough Head > >and Auburn House. Those saved speak highly of the gallantry displayed by the >lifeboat crews and by the coastguard to save life. ... ". > >In fact, seven lifeboat crew were lost in the Count Batthyany lifeboat, and the >disaster was widely covered at length in the Yorkshire papers of the time. The >Lavinia unfortunately is not mentioned in the lists of wrecked vessels, but >those that were included are: Spinner (of Blythe); Agility (North Shields); >Friends Increase (London); Echo (Maldon); Squirrel (Whitby); Worthy (Lynn); Peri > >(Lynn); Margaret (Ipswich); Rebecca and Elizabeth (Lowestoft); Bebside >(Blythe); > >Urina (Worcester); Vivid (Scarborough); William Maitland (Whitby); Caroline >(Yarmouth); Arrow (Sunderland); Delta (Whitby); and the Produce (Folkestone). > "Four other vessels foundered, with all hands, names unknown." A long account >of the storm and shipwrecks is to be found in the Sheffield and Rotherham >Independent for the 18th February. > >Regards, > >Peter Klein > >________________________________ >From: CarolK Kampenhout <ckampenhout@hotmail.com> >To: Mariners Rootsweb <mariners@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, 4 June, 2011 6:01:45 >Subject: [MAR] Vessel "Lavinia" wreck in the Bridlington Bay Feb 1871 > > > >Well, I FINALLY found the record where my gg gpa's (Anthony Hindson) >ship wrecked off the coast of England. The burial record (14 Feb 1871) >of the Bridlington Parish, York, says" drowned in Bridlington Bay in the >wreck of the ship "Lavinia" of Seaham. > >I have a couple of questions: > >Where can I look to find information about the ship, and/or the wreck itself. >He was listed in the record as (captain) although I never found him in the >Lloyds list of Captains. > > >Thanks! > > >Carol Kampenhout > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message