Hi Ted That explains why I could find him before, he is listed as Master rather than Captain on the CWGC I did wonder what the subject line was about but there was nothing to indicate in the post what it meant At least Philip Ernest WILLIAMS had an airing which is the least he deserves Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Robert and Nivard, > > Thanks for your swift reply, but this appears to be another P. Williams. > > British & Commonwealth Merchant Ship Losses by A. J. Tennent gives - > > Clan Macfadyen > 27.11.1942 torpedoed and sunk by U.508 in 08.57N 59.48W on voyage > Mauritius to the UK via Cape Town and Pernambuco and Trinidad with a > cargo of sugar, hemp and rum. The Master, Capt. Percy Edgar Williams, > 82 crew and 7 gunners were lost. 3 crew and 1 gunner were rescued from a > raft by the schooner Harvard and taken to Port of Spain, Trinidad. > > He is listed on the CWGC site at > http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2794114 but no > indication of his origin. > > There is a guide to tracing records of master mariners at > http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKMasters.html > > Hope this helps > regards > Ted